Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition review

Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition
Background:

Well...im old...ancient someone would say. My first contact with simracing was Geoff Crammond´s excellent Formula One Grand Prix in 1990´s and since then I have driven numerous driving games with Assetto Corsa being the latest one. I have owned and destroyed several wheels from manufacturer´s like Microsoft, Logitech and Fanatec so I would call myself as a experienced driver with average driving skills.
I have been relatively happy with my Fanatec CSR wheel and Clubsport V1 setup but sometimes you just want to try something new and hopefully better. Fanatec Clubsport Wheel would have been one good choice but it was just too pricey and possible future warranty issues made me look elsewhere. Thrustmaster T500 RS is nice but the newer design, brushless motor and better belt system convinced me to buy 458 Italia wheel. Having owned and destroyed a Logitech G25 in my previous life the newly released Thrustmaster TX 458 for 300 Euro´s was the only real choice for me. Luckily it was Christmas so Santa Claus helped me get this wheel. Thanks Santa, I owe you one...or two. :)

First impression & some numbers:
"What the .... Why in earth did I buy this piece of toy wheel" was my first thought after opening the box and lifting the unattached wheel. The two things that really striked out badly was the yellow Ferrari logo and the 2-way Manettino switch which really makes the wheel look cheap. The wheel rim building material looks and feels almost the same as found in early 90´s Nissan dashboard´s. Luckily appearances can sometimes be deceptive as the wheel "quality" will grow on you.
The wheel rim weight is approximately 730 gramms and its 28 cm in diameter. The power supply is inside of the base unit which weight is about 3,9 kg compared to Fanatec´s 2,9kg including the wheel but without the external power supply. In PC-mode you have total 13 buttons and a D-pad in your disposal.

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Gas and brake pedals are made of metal,base from light plastic and the total weight is approximately 1,36kg. Brake has progressive resistance and the gas pedal feels quite stiff. Pedals connects directly to wheel base and they are not USB compatible.

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Wheel can be attached to table/cockpit with good clamping system or more permanently with built-in screw threads. After attaching the steering wheel and making the required firmware update for PC I was ready to Rock´n Roll.

Driving impression´s:
I could feel big difference between the CSR and Thrustmaster TX as soon as I accelerated out of the pits with my rFactor 2 Corvette.In straight line the 458 Italia will give you much more information about the car suspension movement and the bumps on the road. In corners I could feel the change in grip much more clearly and earlier stage than I did with Fanatec CSR. Steering response feels faster, more direct and FFB in whole felt much better. CSR has small FFB deadzone where you dont feel any feedback but with TX you feel the FFB almost whole range of wheels turning range.

With Assetto Corsa the difference between the wheels was smaller but Thrustmaster still feels superior of these two. Again the Thrusmaster feels so accurate,direct and fast to react drivers every steering input. Driving BMW Z4 GT3 with CSR feel´s just little bit boring but the TX wheel made the car more enjoyable and exciting to drive.
Gear leavers are made of strong metal and have nice solid feel to them. They are quite short to allow easy access to back buttons so I needed some time finding right position for my hands and fingers. That ugly Manettino switch works but they really shoud have used better quality switch in that one. Other buttons feel OK but for me the Fanatec has better buttons and the wheel rim in whole feels better. Pedals look and feel quite cheap but surprisingly they work much better than their appearance might suggest.

Conclusion: Connect the dots
FFB quality and the base unit are definitely the best part of this wheel . Driving with this wheel is true pleasure because FFB is strong, detailed and fast. Thrustmaster really should have used better quality materials with the rim and the pedals. Luckily you can always use Thrustmaster T500 RS add-on wheels and pedals or use USB pedals from another manufacturer. Thrustmaster plans to release improved T3PA pedals which includes a clutch pedal. I think this package is OK starting point for newcomer but I would definitely buy new pedals if I was serious about simracing. Im relatively happy with the rim so currently I have no plans to buy the 100€ Ferrari 458 GTE wheel add-on which should be much better in quality wise.

The GOOD:
+ FFB is very good
+ Base is made of strong, good quality plastic
+ Many buttons, even behind the wheel
+ Accurate and reacts fast to drivers input
+ Good clamp that will stop the base from moving.
+ Gear leavers are made of thick metal and changing gear feels quite good
+ Ability to use add-on wheels and pedals

The BAD:
- Pedals are light weight,looks and feels cheap. Surprisingly they do work moderately well
- Wheel rim looks cheap and the build quality should have been better. It does work & feels better than first impression might suggest
- Loud fan under stress
- No power switch
- USB cable can't be removed
- No clutch pedal

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05.02.2014 UPDATE:

My Thrustmaster TX is dead so rest in peace my friend...you will be sorely missed.:(
But luckily his twin brother has arrived. ;)

One morning about 10 days ago my wheel went completely dead, no lights or any wheel movement at all so the electronics must have failed.
I contacted my local dealer and they replaced my wheel in 10 days . Whole process could have been 2-3 days shorter but they didnt have the wheel on stock so Im very happy how fast they replaced my wheel. I also e-mailed Thustmaster twice and both time they replied in 24 hours so no complaints about their reply speed.
According to my local dealer over 10% TX wheels have been returned back for warranty repairs. Other users have also experienced wheel failures so there seems to be slight quality problem with first batch of the TX Wheel.

I still like the wheel very much. :)
 
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OK, some progress.
If I pick off the steering wheel itself, the base works. If I attach the steering wheel, the auto-calibration fails.

progress 2: if I don't tighten the quick release, the wheel works (the buttons too).

progress 3: if I turn on the base without the steering wheel then I attach the steering wheel and tighten it up I can use it. :D

Obviously something is wrong, maybe contact fault (I tried compressed air but didn't help of course).
 
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Since I'm more interested in real Sims I still play F1 2012. *lol* I own 2013, but only tried it once and it isn't installed. With 2012 it was pretty easy, but I think the problems begin with 2013, if I understand you right.

@kjell
Before I buy I read for days until I know the market pretty well. And I bought the TX because of the base and it's versability. So I knew that there are DSD adapters.
I don't know f I come ever around to try such a DIY project. since I am more a cook/illustrator/graphic designer and less Tim Taylor (of Toooltime Fame ;) ), can do the basic stuff at home and that's it, everything else is over my head, but it's tempting. I would like a rim with a bigger diameter pretty much I guess. Thanks for the tip!

I ordered the GTE 10 mins ago btw.

hello mate im on the verge of swapping my dfgt for a tx I just took back a g27 because I thought the dfgt held up well, and I prefer the sequential shifter.

should I go for the tx? anyone has a comparison.. is it better feel on rre ac etc.
 
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ive just read all 18 pages of this thread and parts of me wants to buy the TX badly and the rest not, because of all the failures. I know theres the people that don't post the probs, but the people on here I think 90% have had a failure.

I mean if this wheel is gonna be a almighty upgrade to the dfgt and worth the price 220£ for me, I can live with maybe it dieing on me. But suppose im spoilt by the dfgts rigidity its a tank lol

Can some one explain the difference in say raceroom as I sim that quite a bit at the moment.

p.s that calibration is surely the reason why so many break, that's frightening!!!
 
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ive just read all 18 pages of this thread and parts of me wants to buy the TX badly and the rest not, because of all the failures. I know theres the people that don't post the probs, but the people on here I think 90% have had a failure.

I mean if this wheel is gonna be a almighty upgrade to the dfgt and worth the price 220£ for me, I can live with maybe it dieing on me. But suppose im spoilt by the dfgts rigidity its a tank lol

Can some one explain the difference in say raceroom as I sim that quite a bit at the moment.

p.s that calibration is surely the reason why so many break, that's frightening!!!


There's no way there was 90% failure in this thread. The early failures were most likely firmware issues, but failures have become far and fewer between since this wheel was released. Buy it from Amazon as it was stated in this thread. If you have problem, they have the best return policy online and you'll get a free replacement and no shipping charges to send it back. My TX is about 9 months old now and still works perfectly.
 
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that's cool but amazon isn't the cheapest Dabs overclockers have for 220£

not to mention the awfully low amazon customer review stars?!

Again, there were some early failures, but if you read through this whole thread there are several possible explanations. Bottom line, take those reviews with a grain of salt. Amazon wasn't the cheapest when I bought my TX either however it was nice to know I had a fantastic return policy in case anything happened.
 
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There's no way there was 90% failure in this thread. The early failures were most likely firmware issues, but failures have become far and fewer between since this wheel was released. Buy it from Amazon as it was stated in this thread. If you have problem, they have the best return policy online and you'll get a free replacement and no shipping charges to send it back. My TX is about 9 months old now and still works perfectly.

I've had my TX for a few months with no issues. I updated immediately to the latest firmware. Make sure you install the software on your pc before connecting the wheel, caused me some firmware update issues time when I didn't. Had to do the firmware update on another pc to get it to work in the end.
A friend of mine has gone through 2 TX's in the last 5 months. First one died within the first 2 hours. Second time the steering stopped working after 4 months on the xbox. Both times he got them replaced by the ebay store he bought it from. Another 2 friends of mine have never had issues on their TX's, 5 months and 2 year old wheels respectively.
Definitely buy it new so any potential issues wont cost you more.
 
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I know it' off topic but I love to see some reviews on that 3d printed shifter, I just bought a broken tx in "good condition" LOL for $79, it wont power. Should get it by friday. I have some tech experience so we'll see if the gamble pays off.:thumbsup:
 
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Should I install the latest firmware for the TX? Thrustmaster hasn´t lowered the ffb output or something on it?

I just got the tx and I read all the firmware updates and they didn't mention that, I think that was the Fanatec v1 for over heating, I could be mistaken.
 
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Thrustmaster don´t mention anything except the fan supposed to quit running faster or something I believe. You never know what the manufacturers do with each firmware though so just wanted to check before I do something irreversible. Maybe you can go back not sure?
 
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Should I install the latest firmware for the TX? Thrustmaster hasn´t lowered the ffb output or something on it?

Anybody here have a wheelcheck with F458 Italia rim with it pre or post update?
I didn't notice any difference in FFB. The firmware just turns the fan off sooner when the motor has cooled down. I used the stock and GTE rim.
 
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Reading this and other reviews... This is going to be my next wheel! :)
If someone knows a good deal (shipping to finland) please tell me.
 
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