The International Manufacturers Championship '67

IMC '67 · Dec 21, 2023

Illuminated gauges 1960's style...

Davide Nativo · Dec 26, 2023

Tacho needle was white though, don't know why in GTR/GTL/rFactor iterations of the car it's always red.
If you're interested, different P4 drivers used different steering wheels. Parkes for example had a black one, like the one he used on the 312, and I don't remember if it was Scarfiotti or Vaccarella had a plain one, full, no holes.

Vanaja · Dec 26, 2023

A simple question. Are you releasing a new version of the mod?

IMC '67 · Dec 26, 2023

Davide Nativo said:
Tacho needle was white though, don't know why in GTR/GTL/rFactor iterations of the car it's always red.
If you're interested, different P4 drivers used different steering wheels. Parkes for example had a black one, like the one he used on the 312, and I don't remember if it was Scarfiotti or Vaccarella had a plain one, full, no holes.

The problem is that GTR2 only allows one colour for the gauge needles in a car and since all the other needles in the cockpit were orange, that's the colour I've settled for. However, the 365 P2 (The White Elephant) will have all white needles.

As for the steering wheels, I currently have two versions: chrome for the 330 P3/4 as seen above, and black for the P4s and 412Ps. I'm also planning to give the White Elephant and David Piper's 365 P2/3 chrome steering wheels.

Ferrari 330 P3/4 cockpit with chrome steering wheel at Le Mans 1967. The car also raced at Daytona and Targa Florio that year.

IMC '67 · Dec 26, 2023

Vanaja said:
A simple question. Are you releasing a new version of the mod?

What mod? This is not a mod, it's a new game as stated in the first post of this thread.

Ruttman98 · Dec 27, 2023

IMC '67's strive for accuracy is commendable--and can be maddening .

We all fixate on different details--Davide N. noticed the gauge needles and the game has its limitations. I see 76 PCD (Nardi, Personal, RAID) steering wheel bolt circles where 70 PCD (MOMO, OMP, Sparco) fitments should be and vice versa and the models have limitations.

Please keep up the relentless pursuit of perfection!

IMC '67 · Dec 27, 2023

I think I'm on a reasonable level regarding accuracy for cars and tracks. An example is the Ferrari steering wheel above, where the real chrome one had the Ferrari logo "sunk" into the wheel but I've settled for just using the original black one with a chrome texture. It also depends on how easy (or fun) something is to implement as it has to be worth the effort in the end.

IMC '67 · Dec 27, 2023

IMC '67 said:
An example is the Ferrari steering wheel above, where the real chrome one had the Ferrari logo "sunk" into the wheel but I've settled for just using the original black one with a chrome texture.

That said, I just spent an hour on modifying the wheel texture to simulate the submerged position of the logo, haha.

NEChris · Dec 27, 2023

"What mod? This is not a mod, it's a new game as stated in the first post of this thread."
"The game is based on a Power & Glory install for GTR2"

So it's a mod for GTR2...

IMC '67 · Dec 28, 2023

No, it's a new game based on a Power & Glory install for GTR2.

NEChris · Dec 28, 2023

IMC '67 said:
No, it's a new game based on a Power & Glory install for GTR2.

Using a new game engine?

IMC '67 · Dec 28, 2023

There are several different games that uses the same game engine. Would you describe GTR2 as a "mod" for GTL? No, I didn't think so.

NEChris · Dec 28, 2023

IMC '67 said:
There are several different games that uses the same game engine. Would you describe GTR2 as a "mod" for GTL? No, I didn't think so.

If you don't use a new game engine but still need GTR2 (and PnG) to install your "game" then it's a mod, not a new game.
You may use additional 3D models, diferent skins, modified physics and sounds but the base stays the same so it's a mod.

IMC '67 · Dec 29, 2023

I don't need GTR2 or P&G to "install" my game as they are already part of it. Now would you stop pestering the thread.

IMC '67 · Dec 29, 2023

Flying to London for the 1967 BOAC 500...

NEChris · Dec 29, 2023

IMC '67 said:
I don't need GTR2 or P&G to "install" my game as they are already part of it.

Thanks for confirming my point

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IMC '67 · Dec 29, 2023

SimBin most likely used their earlier games as a starting base for their new GTR2 game.

I had a quick look through my IMC67 game folder to estimate the allocation between GTR2, P&G, and 3rd Party content. Here's the rough percentages I got:

GTR2: 0.1% (mainly only the 3Mb .exe and some other base game files)
P&G: 2% (car sounds and a few car models)
3rd Party: 98% (cars, tracks, CrewChief, career option, realism, menus and layouts, removed nonsense, music, and gameplay)

Suck on that anyone who don't think this is a new standalone game.

NEChris · Dec 29, 2023

IMC '67 said:
SimBin most likely used their earlier games as a starting base for their new GTR2 game.

I had a quick look through my IMC67 game folder to estimate the allocation between GTR2, P&G, and 3rd Party content. Here's the rough percentages I got:

GTR2: 0.1% (mainly only the 3Mb .exe and some other base game files)

P&G: 2% (car sounds and a few car models)

3rd Party: 98% (cars, tracks, CrewChief, career option, realism, menus and layouts, removed nonsense, music, and gameplay)

Suck on that anyone who don't think this is a new standalone game.

But can you run your "game" without GTR2 and P&G?