Alright when was that again.....?

G-Slev · Oct 24, 2020

jonlf said:
They are filling 2 grid spots

So did Andrea Moda.....

Enagee · Oct 24, 2020

Richard Wilks said:
I honestly think this qualy style is crap, and i always did. We can't see people driving a full lap anymore, we just see the finish line, and the graphics changing colors, and then we get the results. No antecipation anymore, no more watching some banzai laps, nothing. Even indycar has that right, the indy time trials are a good show.

I also find it funny that people say others are "salty" because Hamilton is sandbagging. I didnt know that such behaviours are now acceptable behaviour in sport. But even if they are, it just shows how actually little competition there is, when one guy can simply doddle around the whole weekend and just go for it on the last lap to make it more "dramatic". I couldn't care less who is doing it, i find it insulting nonetheless.

Am not sure how much of the session you've been watching but Bottas has been clearly faster.

The team gave both drivers a choice for Quali 3, lighter fuel or do more laps. Each driver made their choice. Lewis had more time to string his lap together, Bottas went for lighter fuel...

Please explain the sandbaging in there?

Racing is not only about speed it's also about the choices you make and it paid of for Lewis.

There's one thing if you don't like a driver but when the obvious is clearly obvious it means one thing. No matter what the man does it won't make a difference.

Koen Verlinde · Oct 24, 2020

Enagee said:
Looks like some have received their salt bags... Surely more to come...

Salt flavours food to bring it to higher standards, why is this considered bad for some people?

LeSunTzu · Oct 24, 2020

@Richard Wilks - Bottas had the quickest time during qualification (during Q2). How does that fit with your theories?

ZuneGuy · Oct 24, 2020

Appie Kuipers said:
Whe are impressed by you A simracer who knows it all.

A simracer - is that what I am. Hey I don't care about impressing anyone, nor do I know it all. I just know how I feel about this subject.

Koen Verlinde said:
I respected his talent for a while, but that did't make me like him. Recently, he just went full political and branding.

First it was his clothing line, then it was "omg I'm vegan now, Instagrampoints +1000", this season he jumped on the BLM bandwagon without making any kind of difference by not racing in countries where his politics aren't supported, it's all so much loud futility which is so common with Millenials in general. Basically he will have to not race in the last 4 events of this season just to make sure that all his talk on BLM has some meat on itself.

Will he do that? Most likely not. That would be asking way too much from someone who just likes to create drama and feed on the Instagrampoints it creates.

He doesn't need to stop racing for any reason. He needs to keep putting a stamp on his career numbers and not worry about what countries don't support his stance on things, because in every country there will be people who do stand with him in supporting BLM. A whole country is never going to support the movement, but it's dumb not to race there because of it. The movement started here in the states and it is not fully supported by everyone. Of course America is quite a dysfunctional country but still, it was founded there.

michelforest · Oct 24, 2020

fatal4you said:
Some suggest reverse grids, but I say starting position lottery would be more interesting and fair.

I don't think it would be fair to draw the starting grid. If I was working for a F1 team, I'd be pretty upset if all my hard work went down the drain because my driver picked number 19.

Richard Wilks · Oct 24, 2020

Enagee said:
Am not sure how much of the session you've been watching but Bottas has been clearly faster.

The team gave both drivers a choice for Quali 3, lighter fuel or do more laps. Each driver made their choice. Lewis had more time to string his lap together, Bottas went for lighter fuel...

Please explain the sandbaging in there?

Racing is not only about speed it's also about the choices you make and it paid of for Lewis.

There's one thing if you don't like a driver but when the obvious is clearly obvious it means one thing. No matter what the man does it won't make a difference.

If you think i say what i say because i don't "like" Hamilton, then you haven't payed atention to what i have been saying. This is not the first, or the second, or even the third time this happens this year. Bottas dominates the whole weekend, only for Hamilton to take the pole from under him in the dying moments of the qualy. This is not a new tactic. But if he was at least honest about it after the fact, say "i had something in reserve", just like Senna used to, thats fine. But no, we are now treated to the usual Lewis and Toto show of "i dont know how i i did it", "Magic lewis pulled yet another one out of the bag", etc etc. And i am sorry, again, doesn't matter who it is, it just leaves a sour(salty yes) taste in my mouth. I want to see a sport happening, not WWE.

Besides, i never said it was dirty, or illegal. It's a legitimate tactic. Just not a very pretty one, and one that i personally dislike. And i think it's no coincidence that these F1 threads are getting less and less comments.

Enagee · Oct 25, 2020

Richard Wilks said:
If you think i say what i say because i don't "like" Hamilton, then you haven't payed atention to what i have been saying. This is not the first, or the second, or even the third time this happens this year. Bottas dominates the whole weekend, only for Hamilton to take the pole from under him in the dying moments of the qualy. This is not a new tactic. But if he was at least honest about it after the fact, say "i had something in reserve", just like Senna used to, thats fine. But no, we are now treated to the usual Lewis and Toto show of "i dont know how i i did it", "Magic lewis pulled yet another one out of the bag", etc etc. And i am sorry, again, doesn't matter who it is, it just leaves a sour(salty yes) taste in my mouth. I want to see a sport happening, not WWE.

Besides, i never said it was dirty, or illegal. It's a legitimate tactic. Just not a very pretty one, and one that i personally dislike. And i think it's no coincidence that these F1 threads are getting less and less comments.

Am speaking based on this current qualifying session and its a Fact that Bottas was the faster driver and a Fact Mercedes gave both drivers options. Lewis's choice payed off based on the fact that Bottas did not get his best lap together .

Anything else is based on personal opinion. So kill the sandbag noise.

Richard Wilks · Oct 25, 2020

Enagee said:
Am speaking based on this current qualifying session and its a Fact that Bottas was the faster driver and a Fact Mercedes gave both drivers options. Lewis's choice payed off based on the fact that Bottas did not get his best lap together .

Anything else is based on personal opinion. So kill the sandbag noise.

The only fact i see here is you not respecting others opinions. He IS sandbagging, its not the first time he does it. You don't know what Lewis was told by his engineer before the session, or even during the session. You don't know what was told to Bottas. You dont know how they both picked their respective options, and you for sure dont know how much pace Lewis had or didnt had in reserve. EVEN if he somehow picked "the right option" on his own, you still don't know if he just did enough in Q2 to pass to Q3, letting Bottas have that one, which again, happened in previous races.

Koen Verlinde · Oct 25, 2020

Richard Wilks said:
The only fact i see here is you not respecting others opinions. He IS sandbagging, its not the first time he does it. You don't know what Lewis was told by his engineer before the session, or even during the session. You don't know what was told to Bottas. You dont know how they both picked their respective options, and you for sure dont know how much pace Lewis had or didnt had in reserve. EVEN if he somehow picked "the right option" on his own, you still don't know if he just did enough in Q2 to pass to Q3, letting Bottas have that one, which again, happened in previous races.

You'd think Bottas would have learned that trick by now as well...unless this is in the intended outcome.

OXandBUCKS · Oct 25, 2020

G_B said:
Goodbye GrosJean, I won't miss you (in F1) and yet I am French.

I am even nostalgic for Olivier Panis, the last French rider to win a grand prix and that was in 1996...

On the 1997 F1 game, my brother regularly played Olivier Panis to compare himself to other big teams, now I can't see myself endorsing GrosJean in a game, afterwards there's something for everyone.

Ronaldoz87 · Oct 25, 2020

Verstappen keeps impressing me. It was rather funny, that he asks Hamilton to swap cars once. Mercedes invited Verstappen for a private test.

Enagee · Oct 25, 2020

Koen Verlinde said:
You'd think Bottas would have learned that trick by now as well...unless this is in the intended outcome.

I Still think Bottas can win this.

Jan Larsen · Oct 25, 2020

Its extremely rare to see injuries in karting, unless you drive the bonkers Superkarts. Start off small in the lower classes and get some protective gear. Helmet obviously, rib protector for the seat, neck brace, fire suit, boots and gloves - the standard package. I drove once many eons ago and added homemade foam protection to my ankles, lower legs and knees. It looked daft, but worked. With all that said; its still motorsport. Which is inherently dangerous.

Mr.Robot · Oct 25, 2020

Charlie Lockwood said:
It has been confirmed that former team principal of Ferrari, Stefano Domenicali will replace Chase Carey as the CEO of Formula 1 in January.

Carey who has been CEO since 2017 will continue on the board but in a non-executive role.

Domenicali is best known for having replaced Jean Todt to lead the Ferrari F1 team from 2008 until 2014.

Since then he worked for Audi and the FIA, before being appointed the CEO of Lamborghini.

Formula One has announced that Italian, Stefano Domenicali will take the reins from Chase Carey and lead F1 as its CEO from January. Carey has spent almost four years as the sport's CEO since Liberty Media took a majority shareholder's stake in 2017.

Domenicali's background with Ferrari, the Volkswagen Group and the FIA, put him in an excellent position to lead the sport into the future. He has shown an undeniable passion for F1, and speaking earlier he said:

"I am thrilled to join the Formula One organisation, a sport that has always a part of my life."

"I was born in Imola and live in Monza. I've remained connected to the sport through my work with the single-seater commission at the FIA and I look forward to connecting with the teams, promoters, sponsors and many partners in F1 as we continue to drive the business ahead.

"The past six years at Audi and then leading Lamborghini [both part of the Volkswagen Group] have given me broader perspective and experience that I will bring to Formula 1."

The 55-year-old's appointment has so far gone down extremely well with teams and drivers alike. Christian Horner described him as "one of the good guys", with Lewis Hamilton calling it "amazing" news, and saying that he didn't "think they could have really chosen someone better."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1309479424375619584

Chase Carey has overseen a challenging year for the sport, as well as the process of the teams agreeing to the new 'Concorde' agreement, that should make F1 more sustainable in the future. This is something which he alluded to while speaking about the news:

"It has been an honour to lead F1. I'm proud of the team that's not only navigated through an immensely challenging 2020 but returned with added purpose and determination in the areas of sustainability, diversity and inclusion.

"I'm confident that we've built the strong foundation for the business to grow over the long term."

Domenicali is a familiar face in the paddock, and it will be great to see someone with his passion and experience lead Formula One into a new era for the sport. Welcome back, Stefano.

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