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Featured 2017 Brazilian Grand Prix: Driver of the Day - VOTE NOW

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Paul Jeffrey, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. Sebastian Vettel

    22.1%
  2. Valtteri Bottas

    0.4%
  3. Kimi Raikkonen

    5.1%
  4. Lewis Hamilton

    40.4%
  5. Max Verstappen

    1.9%
  6. Daniel Ricciardo

    5.1%
  7. Felipe Massa

    13.0%
  8. Fernando Alonso

    7.4%
  9. Sergio Perez

    0.2%
  10. Nico Hulkenberg

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Carlos Sainz

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Pierre Gasly

    0.6%
  13. Marcus Ericsson

    0.2%
  14. Pascal Wehrlein

    0.4%
  15. Romain Grosjean

    0.6%
  16. Lance Stroll

    0.4%
  17. Brendon Hartley

    0.2%
  18. Esteban Ocon

    0.2%
  19. Stoffel Vandoorne

    0.6%
  20. Kevin Magnussen

    0.9%
  1. ears

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    Completely agree.

    Since the introduction of the safety car there's been no value in going flat out to build a 30 second lead.

    So the tactical approach to winning is get to 5 seconds and hold it.
     
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  2. Thombike

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    So. When kids writes "i woted or not woted beacouse I like, i dont like" I as a real F1 fan can say only - Hamilton. Why? Beacouse on Interlagos he show to all real Champ quality.
     
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  3. apex11

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    Now concentrate and try again....
     
  4. Matteo Pagin

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    Voted for Ricciardo.
    Hamilton drove really well, but he didn't really have to put much effort to make any of those overtakes, especially with new engine parts his car was just so much better than everyone's else.
    Ricciardo on the other hand had to perform some crazy braking's maneuveres to get past, so IMO that's more reamarkable.
    N.B. I'm not saying that Hamilton drove worse than him or that he isn't capable of doing the same, just Ricciardo had to show his talent, Lewis in my opinion not as much, not in terms of overtaking capablity at least.
     
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  5. apex11

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    Completely agree, some of Dan's moves were balls out, Lewis was just simply sailing past people on pure engine difference alone.
     
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  6. ears

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    Are you sure you're watching the right sport?

    This has been the situation in F1 for as long as I've been watching it. Williams Honda, McLaren Honda, Williams Renault, Benetton Renault, and on and on.

    And it's not just about the engines.

    In the era up to 2013 the engines were fairly standard, so the team that could produce the best chassis won.
     
  7. Cristian Haba

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    Massa, relentless pressure from Alonso the whole race, form is temporary class is permanent. It applies to both those two drivers.

    *Cant believe Hamilton got so many votes, fresh engine to run all the boost he wants. Speed diff between him and Verstappen at the end of the straight with drs was +30kph...
     
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  8. LeSunTzu

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    Verstappen's poor speed was due to "conservative engine settings" (Horner words).
     
  9. HK2014

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    Im not at all a Hamilton fan but I have voted for him. Not for the overtakes he made (because its a mercedes after all...) but for his consistency and his superb pace on the soft tires. He was even faster on his very used soft tires than Bottas on his fresh tires.. Respect.
     
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  10. Bram Hengeveld

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    Lewis got my vote too
     
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  11. Rob

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    Next up! Hewis Lamilton winning a driver of the day poll w/o being in the race! lol.
     
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  12. gamer19

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    ^ That.

    As my buddy JV said...
    Bottas pace for whole race was quite embarrassing.
    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-performance-embarrassing-brazil-villeneuve-978179/

    <mod edit: no personal insults>
     
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  13. Cristian Haba

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    Consistency and pace in a car he's very familiar with, has helped develop, and has a lot of ease in setting up to manage it almost perfectly to his style of driving. In that sense yes, bravo. The only yard stick for him is vettel, and he won today.

    Also Villeneuves cute banter needs a grain of salt. He's rarely been on point with his commentary.

    For me it was more impressive what was happening in the midfield. Massa, Alonso, Ricciardo.
     
  14. CodeF1

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    Probably Louise...she had by far the fastest car...oh and shiniest jewelry :p
     
  15. snyperal

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    Hami all day long.
     
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  16. Knoxstar

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    Lewis had the newest engine cranked up and passed mainly before the corner such was his advantage. Daniel made some amazing passes, Alonzo and Massa drove like there was no tomorrow so how the bloody h??? do you guys say Hamilton was driver of the day? Car of the day for sure but my mum could have driven to 5th with that technical advantage.
     
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  17. Tr3voRR

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    Hamilton didn't do anything... this guy has got so much luck it's not fair... 1st lap 3 people dnf, than on the second lap 6 people pit, than nobody fought against him, they just let him pass... yeah great driver of the day... not to mention the strongest car on the grid.
     
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  18. Tr3voRR

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    1st lap 3 people dnf, than on the second lap 6 people pit, than nobody fought against him, they just let him pass... They literraly just moved aside... yeah great driver of the day...
     
  19. apex11

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    I follow the teams not the drivers. The true genius's are the teams / engineers / car designers. That is my point. And yes its always been this way
    Did you miss the bit about having a better spec engine than Bottas? Hardly comparable. Don't get me wrong, Bottas is in F1 terms very average, but still to be fair to him Lewis had a better engine...
     
  20. ears

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    Erm ....

    So you follow the teams, because of their genius. But if one team uses its genius in engine design to get 20BHP more than any other team, they're cheating, bent, an utter joke, unfair?

    Let me guess ... the team you follow for their genius teams / engineers / car designers is not Mercedes?!