Andretti's F1 Rejection: What Do Sim Racers Think?

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Did Formula One Management make the right call in rejecting Andretti and Cadillac?


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In what turned out to be the second-most spectacular news regarding Formula One in the span of 24 hours after Lewis Hamilton's apparent move to Ferrari in 2025, it has emerged that the Andretti bid to field an F1 team in 2025 has been rejected for good. An unpopular decision, it seems - what does the RaceDepartment community think?

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One of the biggest names in racing, backing by an automotive giant in General Motors - Michael Andretti's bid to join F1 seemed extremely promising. However, the Andretti-Cadillac project almost immediately faced adversity.

It took the established F1 world what seemed like two seconds to adopt a very unwelcoming stance towards the potential new team. 22 cars would be too many and dangerous. Another team would dilute the championship. Despite this, Andretti and GM pressed on and hoped to field their own team in 2025.

While the FIA itself approved the bid of the potential new US team, Formula One Management did not. FOM takes care of the commercial side of F1 - and this hurdle could not be cleared by Andretti. The key part of the rejection statement read as follows:

"The most significant way in which a new entrant would bring value is by being competitive. We do not believe that the applicant would be a competitive participant. The need for any new team to take a compulsory power unit supply, potentially over a period of several seasons, would be damaging to the prestige and standing of the Championship."

Sim racers who hoped to have Andretti cars on the virtual grid in the official F1 game series can still do so, though. Thanks to the efforts of the RD community, multiple MyTeam packs can be found in the download section for F1 23. Additionally, the 2026 Overhaul Mod by @ManifoldWasHere also includes an Andretti entry.

Andretti & Cadillac Strongly Disagree​

Of course, Andretti and Cadillac were quick to issue a statement of their own, expressing their strong disagreement with the assessment of FOM. In general, the racing community looks to be on Andretti's side, criticizing F1's country club attitude in the matter.

The rejection does seem weird, too. In recent years, F1 has finally managed what it never really could before - gain traction in the USA. So much so, in fact, that there are now three US races on the calendar. A true US team could certainly have helped drawing in even more fans, especially with the Andretti name attached.

Of course, Haas is technically an American team as well, but they also have a UK base and cooperation with Ferrari, giving the team a more European flair as a result. One could also argue that Haas is also not doing much in terms of competitiveness to add to F1's value...


The Andrettis have quite some F1 history as well, going back to the 1960s. In fact, legendary Mario Andretti made his F1 debut in 1968, and ten years later, he became the World Champion with Lotus. Mario also raced for Ferrari, March, Parnelli Jones Racing, Alfa Romeo and Williams in F1.

His son Michael did not enjoy a successful F1 career, joining McLaren in 1993 after having been one of the top dogs in the IndyCar series for years at that point. He could not get comfortable in F1, though, and parted ways with the team after the Italian Grand Prix.

New Bid in 2028?​

Nevertheless, the Andrettis are a household name in the US and many other countries to this day. The family also raced in sports cars, with Mario scoring a class win in the 1995 24 Hours of Le Mans, NASCAR and, of course, IndyCar. In 1969, Mario won the Indianapolis 500 - and despite both son Michael and grandson Marco getting extremely close to repeating the feat since, it remains the only Andretti win at the Brickyard as of early 2024.

Despite this and Michael operating an internationally-renowned racing team in IndyCar, Formula E and numerous other series, the Andretti name will not return to F1. At least not until 2028 - according to the FOM statement, the doors would be open for a new application then.

We want to know: Do you agree with the FOM decision? Are you on Andretti's side in this case? And what are your reasons? Let us know your opinion in the poll above and your reasons in the comments below!
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There's a giant global automaker backing one of the largest global motorsports firms wanting to get into F1. Did all the accounting work, were already building a car to be competitive in their debut season well ahead of it.

F1 is trying to milk the American market for all it's worth, rumours of another street circuit in Chicago, all the cringey spectacle in Miami and Las Vegas, so on and so on.

Somehow sees this as "not adding anything of value to the sport" despite their interests clearly aligning and all of the financials already being accounted for by GM, with the FIA's approval.

I really hate how F1 has become this "exclusive club" that's incredibly hostile towards outsiders and new talent, young drivers rarely ever getting a chance to be called up, which is something more seats would allow for.

But no, we need to make sure the garbage teams like Haas, Alpha Tauri, Williams, etc. have a financial lifeline to keep existing despite not producing any results, they just get free passes every season for coming 8th, 9th, 10th...

Andretti/Cadillac would be so much better of an American team than Haas, but we're stuck with that garbage because they got there first.
 
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I'll bring my unwanted American perspective into this...

Obviously I am not personally involved with the team, but yet I still feel cheated. Like my fandom and viewership is being taken advantage of while F1 says "we don't ACTUALLY care about you".

Andretti and GM have done everything right and more to get accepted onto the grid. And yet, they not only get rejected, but FOM has the gall to INSULT the Andretti name?! It truly feels like they are trying their hardest to play into the snobby, "I'm above you dumb Americans" European stereotype. Not to state the obvious, but that is not a good recipe for growth.

It truly is difficult for me to stay interested in F1 now. I love racing and F1 has its place on the pedestal of world motorsports for sure. But the lackluster racing, the majority of the races starting at 6 or 7 AM in my time zone, the dumb officiating, the fetish for street circuits, and now this Andretti saga makes it really feel like it's not worth investing my time and passion into this sport.
 
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I can kind of see why the current 10 teams wouldn't want this... but from a fan's perspective, this sucks.
 
On various sites that I read regularly (racer.com, The Athletic), the overwhelming feeling from fans is of disgust at the blatant greed and hypocrisy of F1. They give all kinds of b.s. reasons to deny an entry to Andretti, but we all know the truth: they just want to wait for 2028, when the entry fee will triple and they can stuff more money in their pockets. Let's face it, racing is meaningless in F1.

There was a time when it was fun to follow F1. There were many different, some of them on the goofy side, but that was part of the appeal. And team principals cared about racing, but that was before Christian Horner, Toto Wolff and the rest...

I cancelled my F1TV subscription two weeks ago, because there's much better racing elsewhere to watch.
 
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They state:"We do not believe that the applicant would be a competitive participant."

How can they say that, when there are already F1 teams who are not competitive at all?
Maybe someone doesn't like to give away one more slice of the rich cake of the Formula 1?
You know, like in a heist, when a newcomer wants to split the cake...and the boss decides to get rid of him.
 
This has several aspects to analyze...

While I won't jump on the bandwagon that overhypes Andretti's capabilities (specially after a year where it has fallen out of the Top 3 teams at Indycar), I do think they are damn serious and willing to walk the walk. Every time the FOM put a hurdle, Andretti jumped it and kept running forward. Buy a team? They went and tried to get Sauber, but there was lack of agreement and possibly Audi made a better offer. Set your own team? They put plans forward for it. Pay the anti-dillution fee? Andretti offered to pay it now, with years in advance. You need a manufacturer with you to become onboard? Andretti went and got GM. Oh but we don't actually want you, we want only GM? They replied back by saying we go to F1 with Andretti or we don't go. Oh but you need to put forward a fully detailed proposal to the FIA, did you do that? They did the job and put it, and was the only one that got approved. So it had to go to FOM, which then replies with a statement where they treat US fans and people who work in the sport as idiots with no culture, because in between the lines they denied the name Andretti, which comes from a freaking Formula One World Champion, and driving the car that shaped the professional affair it nowadays is!

So far, this tells two things. One, Andretti's will. Two, FOM's perception of their own power, and how big it actually is. The former has been explained. The latter: they feel they have so much of it that they can scold Andretti for free. How much this can backlash on them, we don't know; but in another twist (and display of the power it wields), they managed to push forward by several months the story that Hamilton is moving towards Ferrari, managing to sweep it under the rug. This announcement puts both Hamilton and Sainz in a very uncomfortable position with the full season ahead, and will have negative consequences. We are talking about Mercedes and Ferrari, two of the most powerful teams both in on-track performance, and politics reach. And yet, they both get shafted for the greater good of FOM.

Regarding how they insult US's racing culture: besides telling them that Andretti gains more than F1 on this (debatable), they proceed to tell that a 2025 entry ignores the challenge of making two cars for two different rulesets in two consecutive seasons. Hello there: that's exactly what Haas did when they entered the sport, and were less serious, less budgeted, and less staffed for it. So not only they deny the history legacy of the series that they then milk out in social media, but they also deny the short term history.

Paddock access and pits? Oh, how did F1 manage to race 26 cars for years in a row with no problem? How is it that 10 years ago we had 12 teams and 24 cars on every race? And now we cannot have 22? Again, they are ridiculing fans's memory and treating us like idiots.

But let's get down to what matters: money and lawsuits. The current Concorde Agreement ends in 2026. It states that the anti-dillution fee that should be put forward by a new team is of 200 million euros. With the current state of the series, which is of basically a money printer, teams feel like that fee is very undervalued and that a new spot on the grid should be of much greater value, but it won't change until a new Concorde is signed in 2026, which will see that fee, at least, tripled. So I find no coincidence in them saying no to 2025 (with another stupid argument about stressing current providers, when Renault only provides engines to one team, and would gladly have another one to have some development help that they will need from 2026), but yes to 2028 with General Motors! That means that for when they are finally allowed in, they have to pay the fee in full value. And by stating that the team can be allowed in, they aim to bypass the anti-trust laws of Europe, which would give Andretti a very strong case in a court against FOM.

What happens now, it's unknown. It could backlash on F1 and lose them viewers and fans. It could also backlash by having Andretti and GM back out of this completely, which won't give the series a good look and will turn off future prospects. The lure for F1 is powerful, bigger than it has been in a long while, and teams racing there are very profitable, so they want to protect their spot. This now stands as a test for FOM and Andretti/GM on the power of each's position, and will have big consequences for the future. If Andretti keeps their head down and working towards 2028, it will strengthen FOM ten-fold and will show to the world that anybody that wants in has to bend over their will. If Andretti decides to go to trial, it will put F1's image in big question, but it will be a surefire way of never be able to have success in the series (and at the same time, opening a more clear path for future new entries). If they simply walk out, the series will have to face a test of time and see how much it hurts them in the long term.
 
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I think it's also very much because they don't have a power unit yet and Alpine really doesn't want them to reverse-engineer theirs.
Plus not wanting to split the cake ofc.
 
Funnily enough it's liberty media, the American commercial rights holder who rejected them, while the European FIA approuved their application.
Yes b/c, like the rest of the US coastal, corporate class, billionaire class & government class, Liberty are actually globalists who view everyday Americans, especially in flyover country, as consumers & tax chattel only.
 

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