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[CC]

Good clarification on the Viper gearbox - I spotted it was a h-shifter in the Barcelona video, but later in the vid there is another Viper with a sequential (I think).

Also, the reason for the 2005 aero on the 550 is for two reasons - 1; I prefer the shapely nature of it, but more importantly 2; I have much better reference images for that spec, so its a lot easier to model.
Pretty sure physics wise it will be the earlier 2004 spec, but I can't say that with any certainty.

I can they will all be 2004 audio and physics

 

[Michael Springer]

Hi man thanks for the input , the wife gave me some chocolate cake and finished it before reading your wall of text ,

 

[CC]

On a serious note man , if you have hard facts and evidence and data from this 2004 season would be much appreciated , even God does not know everything , all details and info always helps , and we always say the same things

 

[garyjpaterson]

I feel like I'm making some sort of strange futuristic architecture. I'm not, its just the gear shifter base

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Completely irrelevant picture I thought looked nice:

 

[CC]

I feel like I'm making some sort of strange futuristic architecture. I'm not, its just the gear shifter base

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Completely irrelevant picture I thought looked nice:

Yeah I saw you post that in discord , will look insane textured

 

[garyjpaterson]

FYI, this car (No. 65) is the spec I'm basing mine on. Here is is at Le Mans 2004 with Colin McRae at the helm.

This is the car I have clearest and most comprehensive reference of, so it makes sense to do so.

 

[Michael Hornbuckle]

Crazy that the LeMans winning Viper in the Chrysler Museum has an H pattern. One of you guys should let them know that it is wrong.

 

[Michael Springer]

Well that's because it had an h-pattern when it won Le Mans

 

[CC]

Crazy that the LeMans winning Viper in the Chrysler Museum has an H pattern. One of you guys should let them know that it is wrong.

So much controversy ,
Personally just for the viper I have 3 documents all official / FIA / Parts CAT / And workshop manuals ,
non show the H pattern and even in GTR2 I have a fully custom setup manual so 4 points of reference , I also watched some 2004 footage on youtube where it was seq gearbox ,
but like I say im not making the car its Daniels projects
Personally I do not believe they would race in FIA GT in 2004 when all the other teams are using seq gearbox when they would be at a disadvantage

 

[Michael Hornbuckle]

Why would they be at a disadvantage?

 

[CC]

Why would they be at a disadvantage?

So why did they invent the sequential gearbox ? if the H pattern was around 70-80 years ,
if it was not a proven performance gain in racing why did they not stop using it and now in 2017 see the H pattern again , like I mentioned before even if its a few tenths per lap its at a disadvantage .

 

[CC]

Anyways 1st shader applied in PBR raw metal

Maybe something people will never notice or appreciate but its damn good fun!

 

[garyjpaterson]

Crazy that the LeMans winning Viper in the Chrysler Museum has an H pattern. One of you guys should let them know that it is wrong.

Did the Viper not win in the late 90's/2000, something like that?

 

[CC]

Did the Viper not win in the late 90's/2000, something like that?

Because it had an H pattern it was slower

 

[CC]

Now that was a ball ache , lets add some wear now

 

[CC]

No way near finished as of yet still quite a bit of tweeking and settings , ill turn a few layers down and see whats what , we know the holes need to be darker obviously , I have over 45 layers ill play a little more ,
hopefully we can nail this puppy and move on

 

[CC]

Yeah that bump map was destroying the look too much I think im like 95% here I love this look

 

[garyjpaterson]

Its difficult to follow up a post with those sort of textures... You just have to trust me that once he gets his hands on this it'll look good too!

 

[CC]

Its difficult to follow up a post with those sort of textures... You just have to trust me that once he gets his hands on this it'll look good too!

Almost done with this puppy , be sured yours will get the exact same treatment

 

[Matt Orr]

Crazy that the LeMans winning Viper in the Chrysler Museum has an H pattern. One of you guys should let them know that it is wrong.

Why is it so difficult to grasp that it changed over the course of the car's life? Some have H patterns, some have sequential - just depends on the year and where they were racing and even the team and race.

This is one of those things where there is no wrong answer and no right answer available as it's probably all been lost to time as to when precisely things switched, or it'd be too much effort tracking down the info for too little gain.

It's reasonable to guess that most of the FIA GT cars by this point were running a sequential but there is also evidence to suggest that at least one team ran an H pattern for various reasons. I'd also wager someone had a Viper that never got switched over still kicking around basically lost to the sands of time.

(I'm still on team H pattern FYI, just do a Force One engine so it's all simulation like if you prefer )