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Race #11, Japan: Post-Race Checks

Discussion in 'Formula SimRacing' started by Eduard Mallorquí, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. Check your actual status of warnings and safety rating of the season HERE.

    Martin Gosbee (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    David Greco (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Ivar Kalamees (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Rob van Starkenburg (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Jim Parisis (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Jernej Simoncic (5.00) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Petar Brljak (4.00) -1.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: 1.00 Penalty Points for Incident #4

    Antonio Kolarec (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Jack Keithley (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Peter Helmbro (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Eros Masciulli (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Blair Disley (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Patrik Holzmann (4.25) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Out of deadline
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Disqualification for File submit infraction

    Bono Huis (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Jiri Toman (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Dian Kostadinov (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Mike Partington (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Morgan Morand (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Borja Garcia (2.75) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Not received
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Disqualification for no log

    Alvaro Torres (2.25) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Not received
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Disqualification for no log

    Dino Paolini (3.75) +0.50

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

    John-Eric Saxén (5.00) +0.35

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Patrick De Wit (2.50) +0.50

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

    Norbert Leitner (2.05) -2.00

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction, 2.00 Penalty Points for Incident #2

    Luka Oslakovic (4.37) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A


    Incident #1
    Incident #2
    Incident #3
    Incident #4
     
  2. Dunno it's funnier the claim, or the part where it says "while having no evidence".
    Meanwhile real competition&FSR dies...
     
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  3. @Adrian Rodriguez
     
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  4. can somebody please see my q1 infraction don,t know where i cutted degna 2 exit maybe?
     
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  5. I saw your last attempt and there was cut in degner 2. Idk if it was your fastest lap...
     
  6. He doesn't know.. by no fault of his own. Good stuff.
     
  7. only had 1 attempt aborted the 1st 1 and the last 1 had only 1 lap
     
  8. You have a screenshot of the cut if you click on the word "Cut".
     
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  9. Question for the Director: You always indicate the breached rules when you assign penalties, however you haven't done so this time. Considering you described the launch control procedure was followed, may I ask exactly on what basis is Norbert penalised? Exactly which rules were breached? That he had a poor start is obvious, but makes absolutely no sense as a justification for such a penalty.
     
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  10. To be honest, after 2 caused wrecks on starts and one Red Flag he should be happy, that he got only 2 ridiculous penalty points and no proper penalty for last race.
    In his situation, or his team, I would sitting quietly in corner without any word hoping, that people will forget it quickly...
     
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  12. I wrote the following in Incident #1 of Indianapolis: Post-Race checks
    Nevertheless I apologize since I said any driver would be severely punished and obviously with one race left the penalty has barely any impact.
     
  13. That doesn't answer my question, only references a similar incident, for which my same question also applies.
     
  14. Leitner gets a penalty because it's getting pretty common these short of weird starts when it's rather easy to use the launch control system. So after Indianapolis I decided to penalize these mass crashes.
     
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  15. So, basically, Leitner didn't breach any rules and didn't fail to comply with any procedure described in the rules, but he receives a very harsh penalty because drivers are having poor starts frequently. That's what you are saying?
     
  16. Causing a massive INCIDENT at the start is not against the rules in your opinion. That's what you are saying?
     
  17. Leitner stalls the car a few seconds after using the launch control resulting with fatal consequences for the rest of the drivers that where behind him. With a proper use of the launch control system it's very unlikely to stall the car like that.

    Regarding the rules sadly we don't have rules about every single scenario but that doesn't mean you can drive backwards because it's not written in the rulebook.

    Also I don't think the penalty it's so harsh, we have more than 90% of the drivers with 5SR so 2pp it's not a big deal.
     
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  18. After such a situation, every driver should show piece of self-reflection. Well, Norbert showed and apologized.
    Sadly we cant tell the same about you.
     
  19. @Martin Hodás I made a question to the Director, nobody asked for your opinion or moral lessons. Norbert made a mistake and apologised for it as his mistake affected other drivers. As a team, we encourage that kind of sportsmanlike behaviour. Unless you breach a rule, penalising a driver error, however, is a completely different thing which makes no sense.

    Regarding driver errors, it would be good if the Director could make a clarification on how they are considered. FTS drivers were taken out in Silverstone and Hockenheim by drivers who made mistakes while overtaking and the Director took no action. When an FTS driver spun (Bahrain) or made a poor start, they received penalties or warnings. Since a risky overtaking move is obviously something the driver can take advantage of, as opposed to a making a bad start or spinning, which would give you no advantage, I fail to understand the logic behind those decisions.

    @danielino You are currently a COA judge, correct?
     
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  20. How you can stall after your car started to move?
     
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