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Race #06, United Kingdom: Post-Race Checks

Discussion in 'Formula SimRacing' started by Eduard Mallorquí, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. Eduard Mallorquí

    Eduard Mallorquí

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    Check your actual status of warnings and safety rating of the season HERE.

    Bono Huis (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Rob van Starkenburg (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Petar Brljak (4.50) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Ivar Kalamees (4.00) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Dian Kostadinov (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    David Greco (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Cut
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q2 lap infraction

    Martin Gosbee (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Morgan Morand (4.50) -0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: 0.50 Penalty Points and +5 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #2

    Jack Keithley (3.05) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Daniel Brewer (2.50) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Norbert Leitner (2.80) -0.95

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: 0.95 Penalty Points for Incident #1

    Blair Disley (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Adrián Rodríguez (3.90) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Dino Paolini (1.25) +0.50

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Adrian Falcon (2.50) +0.50

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Matt Sentell (4.50) +0.50

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

    Ville Leppälä (3.00) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Jim Parisis (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Eros Masciulli (4.50) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Not received
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Disqualification for File Submission infraction

    Fabrizio Gobbi (4.50) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Net Connection Type="4"
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Official Warning for Log infraction

    Zuhaitz Cabo (3.95) -1.05

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: 1.05 Penalty Points for Incident #3

    Marcel vd Linden (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Robert Rudholm (4.50) +0.50

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Carlos Martín (4.25) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A


    Incident #1
    Incident #2
    Incident #3
    Incident #4
    Incident #5
    Incident #6
    Incident #7
     
  2. Dian Kostadinov

    Dian Kostadinov

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    Don't want to look like a snitch, but I think everybody saw David Greco cutted in his Q2 lap, just before the straight.
     
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  3. Dian Kostadinov

    Dian Kostadinov

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    This is a prove for my words, I hope you will continue keep your consistancy penalize every driver here. I think Edu just didn't see it while checking the replays from Q. Thanks.



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  4. Eduard Mallorquí

    Eduard Mallorquí

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    I corrected it now, thank you.
     
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  5. Georg Winter

    Georg Winter

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    I just watched the broadcast but where is the Morand-Parisis Thing?
     
  6. Victor Ivanov

    Victor Ivanov

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    Probably Parisis hasn't protested.
     
  7. David Greco

    David Greco

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    I know that it is the rule, and I accept it. I lost 2 tenths there, so Dian, check your words, will ya? That is not a cut, is a mistake with lost time and it is called going wide. As I say I accept the penalty, but I did not cut, that I do not accept. I went wide and lost time, it is a different thing. If the rules don't make a distinction between these 2 things, is ok, is the rules, we accepted them as soon as we registered for the league. But as a common sense, it is not a cut, went wide, lost time, lost 2 or 3 spots on Qualify. And you don't look like a snitch, you are one ;). Have a good holiday from FSR.
     
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  8. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    Being a snitch is a good thing. But I agree, you lost time there...
     
  9. Dian Kostadinov

    Dian Kostadinov

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    I know mate, You haven't been in FSR for a while and FSR doesn't care if you win time or not, because it is unprovable. I was penalized for going in the grass once where I lost 0.5, I remember and other cases like this. So I'm sorry but if some are penalized for this, why you shouldn't be. So really I don't care if you lose time or not, I was penalized for this last year, so I will not close my eyes again anymore. Calling me a snitch is too harsh I think, I called myself in the circle of joke, I wasn't the only one who saw it, few guys from other teams connected me in skype about this, just I'm the only one with balls here.
     
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  10. Dmitry Zaharov

    Dmitry Zaharov

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    Quite stupid to penalize for going wide unless driver is gained an advantage doing so.
     
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  11. David Greco

    David Greco

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    they are even worse then, nice ppl around.
     
  12. Georg Winter

    Georg Winter

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    Look at formula 1 china this year last corner. people gone only "wide" too and get penalized. Same in Austria at the Red Bull ring T8...
     
  13. Dmitry Zaharov

    Dmitry Zaharov

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    You need to watch that event closer then. They did not penalized everyone, Alonso was 4 wheels on the grass but his laptime stayed because his sector time was slower.
     
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  14. Dian Kostadinov

    Dian Kostadinov

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    I didn't understand you blamed me or what? I wouldn't take seriously the words said by someone who even not driving in FSR. The rules are made to follow them, usually if you go wide in your Q lap, best way is to tell to Race Director to delete your lap.
     
  15. Dian Kostadinov

    Dian Kostadinov

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    I don't like this rule too, sometimes you do mistake and get out of the track or just going wide with loosing time and still the lap is illegal (talking for Q session). In my league in Bulgaria, we count it as a cut, only if you win from the situation.
     
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  16. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    If you watched the Austrian GP qualifying, you would see that this is the case in real life too... So what's the problem?
     
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  17. Dian Kostadinov

    Dian Kostadinov

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    In F1 is different, because there the curbs are not part of the track, if you remember last year Massa was penalized in Hungary for overtaking Button from outside and went wide with 4 wheels outside of white line where was a curb. Sometimes there are situations which you cannot prove if you win or loose time, sometimes you go wide and don't lose time, but how will you prove it, you will say that you lose time, other teams will say you gain time. That's why I think FSR solved this problem, makes illegal the laps when you leave the track with 3 or 4 wheels.
     
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  18. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    I must be honest, F1 was slack in governing this area until the Austrian GP, where they actually got it right for the first time in many years. It is how it should be, and FSR has been doing a very good job at it.

    Had a good lap(for my standards) ruined at Stowe exit, juuuust went over the kerb with all 4 wheels, immediately aborted the lap. That's what I thought everyone did, as you just waste time continuing anyway.
     
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  19. John-Eric Saxén

    John-Eric Saxén

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    Please propose a better methodology for checking cuts. It has to be consistent, easy to judge and understand, fair and quick (to not waste extra time of director). I am all ears.
     
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  20. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    This should be fun.