I must admit it's starting to grate....

[Chris Matthews]

I mean my lack of ability to stop a slide or tank slapper and end up pointing the wrong way down the track, even when I only have 10 ltrs of fuel.
Surely the physics must be wrong somewhere along the way when going onto a kerb or astro strip at 20/30kmh sends you into a spin or slide and you cannot do anything about it, either power out or lifting off has absolutely no effect, you are just a passenger, then the pathetic penalty system kicks in giving multiple penalties for the same 'mistake' while you are trying to get back on the black stuff..

Don't get me wrong I love the game and have over 200hrs so far, but this simple (and basic) part is starting to really pi$$ me off

 

[Leemstradamus]

Fully agree, some of the videos drivers are fully over the bumps on the inside of the kerbs, try this IRL and your race will be over pretty quick.

I will be overjoyed when damage is fully implemented. A lot of the best lap times I'm afraid won't cut it with full damage. The amount of damage some would have from broken control arms and ripped off body work would be terminal.

 

[Pedro Cunha]

Fully agree, some of the videos drivers are fully over the bumps on the inside of the kerbs, try this IRL and your race will be over pretty quick.

Mr Simon, stop acting like you know how real life is, because if the majority says the game is wrong is because it is wrong in fact. The game is far from being perfect just admit it!!

 

[swervedriver]

I will be overjoyed when damage is fully implemented. A lot of the best lap times I'm afraid won't cut it with full damage. The amount of damage some would have from broken control arms and ripped off body work would be terminal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but RSR (which I'm assuming is what most of us are using to track the world's best lap times) allows laps with damage turned off. We won't see any changes to those lap times like you're talking about unless this gets changed.

 

[Pawel Ziolkowski]

I don't know if it's related at all, but I've found that since one of the earlier updates (might have been 0.5 or 0.6) that the Lotus 2-Eleven is virtually undrivable. The rear end is so weak on corner entry that you get a tank slapper on mid corner, then once you fight it enough to make it out the other side, then it understeers like a 5 carriage road train on corner exit.

I've tried just about everything to try and dial out the oversteer, but nothing works. It feels like its a differential related problem with the rear wheels.

But have you tried ctrl-a ?
Lotus 2-11 is one of my most favourite cars in AC, and turning off ABS is huge. You get the same happy to rotate end but without the snap oversteer tendency during trailbraking.
And also 90% of the time understeer is drivers problem. If you at any point in turn hesitate and let the car settle and it *will* understeer, but if you slam the accelerator right at the apex (with correct speed) it will almost powerslide out of the corner with a nice balance of under/over steer.

The feeling of getting the corners right with this car is exhilarating and you get a ton of control over the car at every point in turn. But to get there requires a base of solid driving technique and some pace.

TL DR: turn off ABS, adjust your driving to the car not vice versa, the more pace you have the better the car gets.

 

[Leemstradamus]

I stopped using the rsr app but liked that it had a pro tracking thing where everyone had to use the same session settings. Personally I wouldn't sort my times with damage off. Meaning I would only compare my times against people who have damage on. I'm never going to be an alien so I really only use timing to see how I'm comparing to the general pace.

 

[Michael Hornbuckle]

I stopped using the rsr app but liked that it had a pro tracking thing where everyone had to use the same session settings. Personally I wouldn't sort my times with damage off. Meaning I would only compare my times against people who have damage on. I'm never going to be an alien so I really only use timing to see how I'm comparing to the general pace.

The point of having damage on when damage isn't implemented is?????

 

[Leemstradamus]

The point of having damage on when damage isn't implemented is?????

It is implemented only in a very limited form at the moment. You can damage the engine to the point of blowing it and also I once had a tire rip off once.

 

[Pawel Ziolkowski]

It is implemented only in a very limited form at the moment. You can damage the engine to the point of blowing it and also I once had a tire rip off once.

I think they reverted this for most cars, and right now only BMW M1 has possible engine damage.
Tire rip off is a bug and not a real damage (mostly happens on Joux Pane).

 

[Leemstradamus]

I think they reverted this for most cars, and right now only BMW M1 has possible engine damage.
Tire rip off is a bug and not a real damage (mostly happens on Joux Pane).

I blew the motor on the Pagani last week after the latest update and I ripped the tire off at Imola. Never got that track since I've never owned the game. Looked like a bug but was still cool none the less lol.

 

[Chris Matthews]

I've blown several engines on different cars by changing down to quick...

 

[Pawel Ziolkowski]

Oh, i stand corrected then.

 

[Simon Roberts]

Mr Simon, stop acting like you know how real life is, because if the majority says the game is wrong is because it is wrong in fact. The game is far from being perfect just admit it!!

Your statement makes no sense at all.

 

[Pedro Cunha]

Your statement makes no sense at all.

I make no sense to you because you make no sense to your self boy

saying things like: "I have no issue catching any slide that should be catchable in real life."

please just give us all a freaking break

 

[Michael Hornbuckle]

I have had maybe a half dozen spins in close to 300 hours of gameplay where I was left shaking my head wondering what happened......

Sorry Pedro, anybody that can't get the sim running smoothly using not one, but two Titans is somebody that I can't take seriously......boy

 

[Deleted member 151827]

You guys are all way to "serious". lol

 

[Chris]

Shots fired.

 

[Deleted member 151827]

The Lotus cars are the ones i have issues with for lazy slides. The Elise type of Lotus'. Not saying i am a super driver, but i know when i am not in control of the slides. No input i give changes the course of the slide when it happens. I don't let this get me down because 99% of the time i have a blast on AC and think it's by far got the best handling physics out there at the moment.

 

[Leemstradamus]

The slides in the lotus I attribute to the lift off oversteer in it with no electronic dif. What I'm talking about is more to do with you slide more than likely from driver error but you really have utterly no connection to the car. It just seems to be on a predetermined path. The ones that drive me nuts are the hits from the AI that send you sliding and then pointing the wrong way.

 

[Leemstradamus]

Also don't get me wrong, everyone knows how much I love this sim!

 

[Chris]

The slides in the lotus I attribute to the lift off oversteer in it with no electronic dif. What I'm talking about is more to do with you slide more than likely from driver error but you really have utterly no connection to the car. It just seems to be on a predetermined path. The ones that drive me nuts are the hits from the AI that send you sliding and then pointing the wrong way.

The lift of oversteer especially in the 2-Eleven is horrendous! I mean, if that's how it is in real life then I'm totally fine with it, but it's just incredibly tough to drive. ahah