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How many lap records does JP Montoya have?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Bram Hengeveld, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. Bram Hengeveld

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    Most of the current lap records still date from 2004 / 2005 and a lot of them have been set by JPM it seems. Is he the fastest F1 driver ever? :)
     
  2. Victor Ivanov

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    I think he still holds the top speed record at Monza, some 382 km/h. I'm not sure but I'll check.
    Edit: It looks like I'm wrong.

    I only saw him having 2 records from 2012 calendar - Malaysia and Brazil.
     
  3. Hampus Andersson

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    It's the engine :)

    Ralf was never far off Montoya most of the time.
    Some poles were decided by hundreds,
     
  4. Ho3n3r

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    Doesn't Schumacher have most of the records from 2004? And yes Hampus, I may be wrong.
     
  5. Hampus Andersson

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    It's a bit weird with the records. The official ones are from the race.
    So most of the time they went faster in Quali.
     
  6. Ho3n3r

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    Just did a rough check. Of all tracks that were run as far back as 2004, 6 of the lap records belong to the 2004 Ferrari, 2 belong to the 2004 Williams and 2 belong to the 2004 McLaren. One was Kimi in the McLaren 2005.
     
  7. Hampus Andersson

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    Australia - 2004 - Schumi
    Malaysia - 2004 - Montoya
    China - 2004 - Schumi
    Bahrain - 2004 - Schumi
    Spain - 2008 - Kimi
    Monaco - 2004 - Schumi
    Canada - 2004 - Barrichello
    Europe - 2009 - Glock
    Silverstone - 2010 - Alonso
    Germany - 2004 - Raikkonen (Hockenheim)
    Hungary - 2004 - Schumi
    SPA - 2004 - Kimi
    Monza - 2004 - Barrichello
    Singapore - 2008 - Kimi
    Japan - 2005 - Kimi (suzuka)
    Korea - 2011 - Vettel
    India - 2011 - Vettel
    Abu Dhabi - 2009 - Vettel
    Brazil - 2004 - Montoya
     
  8. Ian Craft

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    There are some things which pop in my head:

    How does the tarmac affect the car. It does. So was it made new and has it or did it have in 2005 more grip than today or does it have today more grip? (Tarmac + Bridgsteoene)
    Is there something which affected the car but isnt calculable ?


    ...after i reed this thread I want an Williams BMW of 2004...
     
  9. Chris Cronshaw

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    There is something that affected the pace I know that for sure. a 900bhp BMW V10.
    That BMW V10 was without a doubt the most powerful engine on the grid at the time
     
  10. Ian Craft

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    I think thats the reason why I want that Williams.
     
  11. Ho3n3r

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    Track Lap Record
    Melbourne 1:24.125 - M Schumacher (2004)
    Sepang 1:34.223 - JP Montoya (2004)
    Shanghai 1:32.238 - M Schumacher (2004)
    Sakhir 1:30.252 - M Schumacher (2004)
    Barcelona 1:21.670 - K Raikkonen (2008)
    Monaco 1:14.439 - M Schumacher (2004)
    Montreal 1:13.622 - R Barrichello (2004)
    Valencia 1:38.683 - T Glock (2009)
    Silverstone 1:30.874 - F Alonso (2010)
    Hockenheim 1:13.780 - K Raikkonen (2004)
    Hungaroring 1:19.071 - M Schumacher (2004)
    Spa 1:45.108 - K Raikkonen (2004)
    Monza 1:21.046 - R Barrichello (2004)
    Singapore 1:45.599 - K Raikkonen (2008)
    Suzuka 1:31.540 - K. Raikkonen (2005)
    Yeongam 1:39.605 - S Vettel (2011)
    India 1:27.249 - S Vettel (2011)
    Interlagos 1:11.473 - JP Montoya (2004)
     
  12. Hampus Andersson

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    950+ and rumored 1.000hp at Monza.
     
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  13. Victor Ivanov

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    And the incredible sound...
     
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  14. Chris Cronshaw

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    Agggh I remember hearing 950 somewhere and thought I'm not putting that I'll get flamed for it lol.

    It surprises me actually that the Williams doesn't hold the lap record for Monza an Montreal
     
  15. Ole Marius Myrvold

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    I thought Honda was the only engine sniffing at the 1000hp mark with the Suzuka special.
     
  16. Bradley Vanian

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    JP Montoya does hold the fastest lap ever (highest average speed) in a Qualy Lap at Monza in 2004.
     
  17. Hampus Andersson

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    Not sure.

    But from BMW´s second year in F1 they had the most powerful engine of them all, in the beginning it was a considerably big performance deficit.
    So much so that Williams could afford to run more downforce and still be faster then anyone else in the speed traps.

    Here´s a great article from BMW about the evolution of their F1 engines.
    They had launched an even more hardcore engine for the last V10 season but due to new regulations on engine life they kept the old one.

    Teams eventually caught up though but i don´t think any team really had a more powerful engine.
    If it did then i´m sure Honda would be the one, they are also a highly regarded engine manufacturer.

    http://sd-2.archive-host.com/membres/up/10237196789579146/moteurs_BMW_F1.pdf

    All of their V10 F1 engines and how they went about making them, a brilliant read for an engine or BMW fan :)
     
  18. Hampus Andersson

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    Just look at the power of the engine out of the pits. It´s like Kimi stands still.

    It´s a complete monster.


    About if they had no regulations regarding the V8 engines that had fixed CoG and height/width.
     
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  19. Kennett Ylitalo

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    Is that the correct video?
     
  20. Hampus Andersson

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    Of what? It´s just an onboard video with Kimi and Montoya.

    You can see him catching up to the Jordan on the straight as well in no time.