F1 2013 Catalunya - Spain (Dry)

[Bram Hengeveld]

Would anyone like to donate a Caterham set up for any track or tracks , please ?

Try posting your own first and then based on the feedback you can make adjustments?

 

[Ryan Mark Smith]

Car
FERRARI

Circuit
Catalunya

Condition
Dry

Distance
25%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 7
Rear Wing Angle: 8

Braking
Balance: F 48% - R 52%
Pressure: Medium
Brake Size: Normal

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 9
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 8

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 6
Rear Ride Height: 7
Front Spring Stiffness: 10
Rear Spring Stiffness: 10

Gearbox
Gear 1: 133 kph / mph
Gear 2: 168 kph / mph
Gear 3: 196 kph / mph
Gear 4: 226 kph / mph
Gear 5: 254 kph / mph
Gear 6: 285 kph / mph
Gear 7: 318 kph / mph

Engine
Fuel Map: Rich

Alignment
Camber Front: -3.30
Camber Rear: -1.30
Toe Front: 0.13
Toe Rear: 0.44

Tyres
Option

Notes
Career practice: 1.21.411 ( Dry/ Hard tyres)
Q1: 1.20.550 (Dry/ Hard tyres)
Q2: 1.20.098 (Dry/ Soft tyres)
Q3: 1.19.996 (Dry/Soft/3 laps fuel)

Might want to take a look at 6th gear, found it was far to slow upon the exit of turn 3 - even with KERS activated.

 

[MartinInc.]

I'm suffering massive understeer in wet&dry conditions. Anyone who can help? The race is for 75% rain, the rest of it will be dry. What is the best setup for my car? (It is a Lotus-Renault btw.)

 

[Ryan Mark Smith]

I'm suffering massive understeer in wet&dry conditions. Anyone who can help? The race is for 75% rain, the rest of it will be dry. What is the best setup for my car? (It is a Lotus-Renault btw.)

I'd go for a setup with gears that are for wet conditions, adjust the aerodynamic's so they suit both the dry and the wet conditions and adjust the front and rear camber to account for the over-steer.

 

[Nas00]

Car
LOTUS RENAULT

Circuit
Catalunya

Condition
Dry

Distance
25%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 7
Rear Wing Angle: 8

Braking
Balance: F 48% - R 52%
Pressure: Medium
Brake Size: Normal

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 9
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 8

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 6
Rear Ride Height: 7
Front Spring Stiffness: 10
Rear Spring Stiffness: 10

Gearbox
Gear 1: 133 kph / mph
Gear 2: 167 kph / mph
Gear 3: 196 kph / mph
Gear 4: 226 kph / mph
Gear 5: 253 kph / mph
Gear 6: 281 kph / mph
Gear 7: 312 kph / mph

Engine
Fuel Map: Rich

Alignment
Camber Front: -3.50
Camber Rear: -1.50
Toe Front: 0.15
Toe Rear: 0.50

Tyres
Option

Notes
Career Practice: 1.22.175
Q1: 1.21.690
Q2: 1.20.786
Q3: 1.20.618 (Rich mix/ 4 laps fuel)
I've made this on Xbox 360 joypad. The car was very stable and fast out from curves, very great sensibility. Let me know if you can improve this setup. Thank you

Those are wonderful settings but my tyres got destroyed in race and I lost to Hamilton 3 laps before the end. I guess you drive much smoother than I do.

 

[Ronnie_Peterson_78]

Car
<SAUBER>

Circuit
<catalunya>

Condition
<Dry>

Distance
<100%>

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle:6
Rear Wing Angle:5

Braking
Balance: F 51% - R 49%
Pressure: high
Brake Size:standard

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar:4
Rear Anti-Roll Bar:2

Suspension
Front Ride Height:3
Rear Ride Height:4
Front Spring Stiffness:8
Rear Spring Stiffness:8

Gearbox
Gear 1: 133 kph
Gear 2: 167 kph
Gear 3: 196 kph
Gear 4: 226 kph
Gear 5: 255 kph
Gear 6: 284 kph
Gear 7: 314 kph

Engine
Fuel Map: Mix x
Alignment
Camber Front:-3,10
Camber Rear:-1.20
Toe Front:11
Toe Rear:41

Tyres
Option

NotesSAUBER career expert no assist g25
1:22.xxx
1:23.xxx

 

[David Hammarlund]

Car
Lotus Renault

Circuit
Catalunya

Condition
Dry

Distance
100%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 5
Rear Wing Angle: 4

Braking
Balance: F 50% - R 50%
Pressure: Medium
Brake Size: Normal

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 3
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 3

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 2
Rear Ride Height: 2
Front Spring Stiffness: 6
Rear Spring Stiffness: 6

Gearbox
Gear 1: 136 kph / mph
Gear 2: 169 kph / mph
Gear 3: 198 kph / mph
Gear 4: 227 kph / mph
Gear 5: 258 kph / mph
Gear 6: 288 kph / mph
Gear 7: 320 kph / mph

Engine
Fuel Map: Standard

Alignment
Camber Front: -2.80
Camber Rear: -0.80
Toe Front: 0.10
Toe Rear: 0.35

Tyres
Option

Notes
Career Practice: 1:21.972 (Primes, standard revs)

 

[diar]

marussia setup would be nice if anyone can please

 

[Luigi Clemente]

Car
MERCEDES

Circuit
Catalunya

Condition
Dry

Distance
25%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 8
Rear Wing Angle: 9

Braking
Balance: F 48% - R 52%
Pressure: High
Brake Size: Normal

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 6
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 5

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 5
Rear Ride Height: 7
Front Spring Stiffness: 5
Rear Spring Stiffness: 3

Gearbox
Gear 1: 135 kph / mph
Gear 2: 169 kph / mph
Gear 3: 199 kph / mph
Gear 4: 229 kph / mph
Gear 5: 257 kph / mph
Gear 6: 284 kph / mph
Gear 7: 315 kph / mph

Engine
Fuel Map: Rich

Alignment
Camber Front: -2.90
Camber Rear: -0.90
Toe Front: 0.12
Toe Rear: 0.41

Tyres
Hard tyres degradation per lap: 7-8%
Soft tyres degradation per lap: 9 - 10%

Notes
Career practice: 1.21.580 (Dry/ Hard tyres)
Q1: 1.21.786 (Dry/ Hard tyres)
Q2: 1.21.456 (Dry/ Soft tyres)
Q3: 1.21.085 (Dry/ Soft/ 3 laps fuel)
I've make these times on x360 pad

 

[Ronnie_Peterson_78]

Car
McLaren

Circuit
Catalogna

Condition
Dry

Distance
100%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 7
Rear Wing Angle: 7

Braking
Balance: F 50% - R 50%
Pressure: medium
Brake Size: Small

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 7
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 7

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 5
Rear Ride Height: 5
Front Spring Stiffness: 7
Rear Spring Stiffness: 7

Gearbox
Gear 1: 125 kph
Gear 2: 157 kph
Gear 3: 187 kph
Gear 4: 217 kph
Gear 5: 248 kph
Gear 6: 278 kph
Gear 7: 312 kph



Alignment
Camber Front: -3.00
Camber Rear: -1.00
Toe Front: 0.10
Toe Rear: 0.35

note:
To minimize the tyre wear use second gear in slow turn. (Watched many onboard camera and big driver use always second gear in slow turn)
1:22.xxx TT
1:24.xxx hard/mix2/33fuel laps.
G25/no assist

 

[Victor Ivanov]

The Setup Template

Car
Online / Ferrari

Circuit
Catalunya

Condition
Dry / Wet

Distance
50%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 1
Rear Wing Angle: 1

Braking
Balance: F 49% - R 51%
Pressure: high
Brake Size: small

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 1
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 1

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 1
Rear Ride Height: 1
Front Spring Stiffness: 6
Rear Spring Stiffness: 6

Gearbox
Gear 1: 153 kph / mph
Gear 2: 181 kph / mph
Gear 3: 205 kph / mph
Gear 4: 234 kph / mph
Gear 5: 263 kph / mph
Gear 6: 297 kph / mph
Gear 7: 328 kph / mph

Engine
Fuel Map: Mix 1/2/3

Alignment
Camber Front: -3.5
Camber Rear: -1.5
Toe Front: max right
Toe Rear: max right

Tyres
Option/Prime

Notes
Q: 1:18.089 Options with possible 1:17 cause the next lap I was 2 tenths up after S1.
R: 1:19.2 Primes lap 27 of 33

The key to save the tyres as much as possible is to shortshift and drive smooth. The only problematic tyre on this track is left front because there are two fast right hand corners (t3 and t4) without a place to cool it. New options last 6 laps, new primes 9. It's possible to extend the stints by one lap each but you will struggle a lot in the last sector. In terms of strategy - o-p-p-p (5,14,23) because the undercut may win you a lot of time. I hope this post was helpful.

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[Alonsonox97]

Car
redbull

Game Mode
time trial / multiplayer 50%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 3
Rear Wing Angle: 1

Braking
Balance: F 48% - R 52%
Pressure: high
Brake Size: small

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 11

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 1
Rear Ride Height: 1
Front Spring Stiffness: 11
Rear Spring Stiffness: 11

Gearbox
Gear 1: 87 MI/h
Gear 2: 110 MI/h
Gear 3: 128 MI/h
Gear 4: 146 MI/h
Gear 5: 165 MI/h
Gear 6: 182 MI/h
Gear 7: 198 MI/h

Engine
Fuel Map: Rich

Alignment
Camber Front: -3.50
Camber Rear: -1.50
Toe Front: 0.15
Toe Rear: 0.50

Tyres
Option

Notes
time trial: 1:17,828

hotlap and setup:

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mod - I have added the medio link for you

 

[Graham Laing]

Do not remove my edit again so that you can re-add your video.

http://www.racedepartment.com/forum/threads/f1-2013-setup-template-and-video-rules.73599/

 

[Graham Laing]

@Alonsonox97

You now have a public warning for re-adding 2 removed videos and removing my edits.

 

[Frappeo]

@Alonsonox97

You now have a public warning for re-adding 2 removed videos and removing my edits.

I think that a public warning should be given as a private message, not in the forum, imho

 

[Graham Laing]

I think that a public warning should be given as a private message, not in the forum, imho

No, it has to made clear to everyone, that ignoring Staff, deleting their comments, and putting back what was removed by the moderator has consequences.

In this case especially when it was done twice (in 2 threads), a warning is pretty lenient

A public warning by definition cannot be private, but yes he got a PM also

 

[avianca]

Car
LOTUS RENAULT

Circuit
Catalunya

Condition
Dry

Distance
25%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 7
Rear Wing Angle: 8

Braking
Balance: F 48% - R 52%
Pressure: Medium
Brake Size: Normal

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 9
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 8

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 6
Rear Ride Height: 7
Front Spring Stiffness: 10
Rear Spring Stiffness: 10

Gearbox
Gear 1: 133 kph / mph
Gear 2: 167 kph / mph
Gear 3: 196 kph / mph
Gear 4: 226 kph / mph
Gear 5: 253 kph / mph
Gear 6: 281 kph / mph
Gear 7: 312 kph / mph

Engine
Fuel Map: Rich

Alignment
Camber Front: -3.50
Camber Rear: -1.50
Toe Front: 0.15
Toe Rear: 0.50

Tyres
Option

Notes
Career Practice: 1.22.175
Q1: 1.21.690
Q2: 1.20.786
Q3: 1.20.618 (Rich mix/ 4 laps fuel)
I've made this on Xbox 360 joypad. The car was very stable and fast out from curves, very great sensibility. Let me know if you can improve this setup. Thank you

bad setup
i give try 1.23.5 2 fuel full rich

 

[Dispater]

I use google translate, sorry.

I did some tire test on career practice, 100% race.
1st setup to minimize tire wear:

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 1
Rear Wing Angle: 1

Braking
Balance: F 50% - R 50%

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 1
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 1

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 6
Ride Height: 6
Front Spring Stiffness: 1
Rear Spring Stiffness: 1

Gearbox
default

Engine
Fuel Map: min

Alignment
Camber Front: full right
Camber Rear: full right
Toe Front: def
Toe Rear: def

2nd setup to maximize tire wear

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 11
Rear Wing Angle: 11

Braking
Balance: F 50% - R 50%

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 11
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 11

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 6
Ride Height: 6
Front Spring Stiffness: 11
Rear Spring Stiffness: 11

Gearbox
default

Engine
Fuel Map: min

Alignment
Camber Front: full left
Camber Rear: full left
Toe Front: def
Toe Rear: def

Soft tires for both.

And after full 10 laps + 1 to go in box tire condition is:
1st setup: 35%
2nd setup: 33%
There is no difference. So, what is the point of sacrifice speed for reduce tire wear, if it no really "reduce"?

 

[Birkoff]

@Dispater some times would be really nice

 

[Cu547]

Car
Toro Rosso

Circuit
Catalunya

Condition
Dry

Distance
Career 25%

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Angle: 7
Rear Wing Angle: 8

Braking
Balance: F 48% - R 52%
Pressure: Med
Brake Size: Std

Balance
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 7

Suspension
Front Ride Height: 5
Rear Ride Height: 6
Front Spring Stiffness: 8
Rear Spring Stiffness: 9

Gearbox
Gear 1: 131 kph
Gear 2: 165 kph
Gear 3: 194 kph
Gear 4: 221 kph
Gear 5: 252 kph
Gear 6: 280 kph
Gear 7: 312 kph

Engine
Fuel Map: Mix 2 (10 Laps Fuel)

Alignment
Camber Front: -3.20
Camber Rear: -1.30
Toe Front: 0.12
Toe Rear: 0.44

Tyres
Prime

Notes
I use an xbox controller. There's more pace to be found in this set up I'm sure, with or without tweaks. managed a 1:24.6xx with a mistake at the hairpin and some other minor errors. I've found taking a wider, flatter entry into T4 takes some of the pressure off the left front, overall wear on primes is about 6-7% per lap. gears 1-4 have also been made slightly shorter. hope this helps, love to hear feedback.