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Assetto Corsa: Ferrari 599XX Making it 4 out of 5?

Discussion in 'Assetto Corsa' started by Bram, May 20, 2013.

  1. Bram

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  2. Mikel Tapl

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    Why so short! I want more!
     
  3. Terry Evers

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    There is actually a second part to this Vid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZnLNv--gSY
     
  4. Hampus Andersson

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    Decided to time one of his laps and he´s about 14 seconds off pace compared to the Pole lap of the Vita4one Z4 in the 2012 Blancpain championship.
     
  5. traind

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    It will match up with the Zonda R pretty well.
     
  6. Hampus Andersson

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    I think the Zonda R will run circles around it frankly.

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                   Zonda R        599XX       Delta
     
    Weight kg      1070           1345        +275kg
     
    Horsepower     750            740         -10hp
     
    Newtonmeter    710            686         -24Nm
    
    The FXX should be a much more formidable competitor with it´s 800 horses and 1155kg dry weight.
     
  7. Von Butters

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    The F10 would be the best F1 car that could fill the books, or, the Enzo!
     
  8. Bram

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    Hampus this video is from a Ferrari client track day. Hard to compare that with a professional racing series. At least if you timed the lap in the video though.
     
  9. traind

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    I agree the FXX would probably be a better match. But the 599xx will likely still be the closest match to the Zonda R of the cars we know about in AC. The Zonda R lapped the Ring 11 seconds faster than the 599xx (different days, different drivers though). That is a big difference.

    But if they use the 599xx evo as the model in AC it will be a little closer. The evo had 20 more HP, 77 lbs less weight and more downforce. The evo lapped Fiorano 1 sec faster than the standard 599xx... and that track is short without too many high speed corners. Perhaps on the Ring it would close the gap toward the Zonda R by 8-9 seconds vs, the standard 599xx?
     
  10. Hampus Andersson

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    Yea i know, it´s clear the guy isn´t a proffessional driver but 14 seconds?
    That´s an eternity even for a beginner. He must be really....really.....really slow :)

    Can see today i used the 599XX Evo power but not weight and Nm.
    Evo weighs 35kg less then standard XX although 245kg´s heavier then Zonda R.
    And -10 Nm instead of -24Nm so about the same engine but 245kg´s heavier approx.

    Highest downforce figures i can find are 1,500kg for Zonda R and 450kg for 599XX.
    And supposedly the 599XX Evoluzione is 1 second faster then the FXX around Fiorano.

    With all that in mind, i think the Zonda is just on another level really.

    Supposedly the Zonda R beat Schumacher´s FXX time at Top Gear by 2 full seconds.
    http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/02/pagani-zonda-r-sets-new-top-gear-test-track-record.html
     
  11. Leonardo Chaves

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    Could the extra car be the LaFerrari? Or will it be an F1? 312T? F2004? A modern Alonso era car? the options are many...
     
  12. CKraegel

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    no modern f1 car (2000 onwards) would be a huge disappointment for me. let's wait and see
     
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  13. Duilio Simonetti

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    timing in real life, for a real Ferrari owner\client, really doesn't matter.
     
  14. Thomas O'Leary

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  15. Hampus Andersson

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    Missing the point completely though.
     
  16. Aristotelis

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    The downforce numbers must always be connected to the reference speed, otherwise are useless. The 1500kg on the Zonda is close to the top speed of the car with all wings and spoilers set to max angle...
    Also remember that the Zonda doesn't have active aero, active differentials etc etc... it's a bit more hardcore to drive too... choices, choices...
     
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  17. Hampus Andersson

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    I know i know, but finding the same speed for both is not easy,
    This is what i found regarding 599XX Evo.


    440kg at 217km/h
    And for Zonda,
    Notice the "to a" meaning it´s probably not 1500kg at 350 because of the high-df setup.

    It´s got a 12-way Bosch Motorsport traction control system, gearbox that can pull off shifts in 20ms and it weighs over 200kg less and probably produce at least the same amount of downforce.


    I can´t see the 599XX Evo come out on top in any area frankly.
    But it will be interesting to compare them in-game.
     
  18. Radek Zukowski

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    Correction, 440kg at 200 km/h.
     
  19. Hampus Andersson

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    Correct, not sure where i got the extra 17km/h from...
     
  20. traind

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    So it sounds like the match-up in AC would be the Zonda R is quicker but more challenging to push to the edge lap after lap than the 599xx... so an interesting tradeoff in multiplayer if the lap times of the 599xx/evo are at least somewhat close to the Zonda R.