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want to buy wheel for f1 &xboxone

Discussion in 'Sim Racing Hardware' started by boxistracer6, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. boxistracer6

    boxistracer6
    boxistracer6 Premium Member

    want to buy wheel for f1 &xboxone. any advice ?
     
  2. jimortality

    jimortality
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    What's your budget?
     
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  3. Wicked

    Wicked
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    Not that many options on Xbox.
    Unless you want to spend 1200+ on the Fanatec gear you have 2 main contenders.

    The Thrustmaster TMX
    https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster..._1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474580699&sr=8-1&keywords=tmx
    and Thrustmaster TX
    https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster...1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474580746&sr=8-1&keywords=TX

    The TMX is a hyrbid Belt/ Gear drive, has 900 degrees of rotation, a non removable rim. It costs around 150$ (atleast thats what its aimed at)

    the TX is a completely belt driven wheel, 900 degrees rotation , removable rim. It's around 250$ to 460$ (depending if you take the bundle with the better pedals and rim)


    All in all ,the TX gives you better force feedback, a better experience over all I'd say, it also allow you to swap to the Thrustmaster Formula 1 rim if thats what you are interested in, but it's definitely more expensive. So that all said. I'd advice you 2 things.
    Go with this bundle https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster...1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1474580746&sr=8-2&keywords=TX

    It has a leather rim and better pedals, great setup and you won't find anything better without spending a lot more money and moving to PC.

    Or if that is too expensive, buy the TMX ( https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster..._1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474580699&sr=8-1&keywords=tmx) and buy these pedals with it https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster..._2?ie=UTF8&qid=1474580699&sr=8-2&keywords=tmx

    Those are much better pedals with a stiffer brake (which helps with consistency in braking. So I'd advice you either one of those options. If your budget is much higher we can look at Fanatec but usually people playing a game like F1 on a console won't be interested in spending over a grand on a wheel which pretty much requires a rig as well etc.

    Lastly, skip over the Logitech G920 and Madcatz stuff entirely. The Logitechs FFB system dates all the way back to the G27 and hasn't really been changed, largely inferior to the TX and if you ask my opinion slight worse than the TMX as well. Madcatz has really never been a huge player on the wheel market.
     
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  4. boxistracer6

    boxistracer6
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    I had two tx wheels the first quit after 10 mins amazon sent me a other one never could get the controls set right got them set in f1 game then go to internet wouldnt work the same sending it back today was looking to replace it with the g920
     
  5. Wicked

    Wicked
    #StanceNation Premium Member

    First batch of TX wheels had numerous issues yes. Well known

    However, the G920 is just a rebranded G27 (but a worse deel) FFB is much worse. I actually upgraded from a G27 to a TX and the difference is night and day. I would go through 20 TX's before I'd consider going back to logitech personally haha.

    I dont know what your problem is with the controls in F1. The TX is supported in F1 as seen here http://blog.codemasters.com/f1/08/f1-2016-supported-wheels/ If you have trouble with the control, just getting a different wheel will result in the exact same problem very likely.

    Like in Forza you have to probably start the game using the controls on the wheel for it to use the wheel as controller. Atleast thats how Forza worked the last time I used it with my TX.

    Either way, you should do whatever you want, but you came here for advice and I cannot advice you to get the G920 in pretty much any circumstance. TX and even the TMX are just much better wheels with much more possible upgrades and customization. Paying almost the same for a wheel with less options, worse force feedback and a identical drive system to a wheel that was 200$ release with the shifter included (G27) is ridiculous if you ask me.
     
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  6. boxistracer6

    boxistracer6
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    thanks for your time & information have 458 spider just thought i would up grade
     
  7. 2pfspiff

    2pfspiff
    2015 pCars World Endurance Challenge AM Champion Premium Member

    I agree with getting the TX. I have 2 bases. One started to have calibration issue's, but that was after a year on Pcars. It still works but I figured I would order another base to play it safe. I am running the 599 rim with the T3PA pro pedals and a Ricmotech load cell upgrade. If this one goes I will get the new Fanatec CSL Elite (https://www.fanatec.com/us-en/bundle/product;bundle_id;108).

    If you get the TX, lower the FFB down as far as you can without losing the feel that you are looking for. This seems to help with longevity of the wheel base. In most games the FFB is up to high.
     
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  8. boxistracer6

    boxistracer6
    boxistracer6 Premium Member

    if brought thrustmaster vg servo t3pa pedals & a vgtm wheel would that be good
     
  9. 2pfspiff

    2pfspiff
    2015 pCars World Endurance Challenge AM Champion Premium Member

    That is excellent. The VG is a TX servo. The T3PA pedals are decent. They give you the conical brake mod and later on you can convert them to a Bodinar Load cell (ISR review
    ) (Bodinar Load Cell http://www.bodin-solutions.com/BLCT3PA/p1644578_15489765.aspx) and the wheel is good. You will be happy with the setup. Like I posted earlier, set the FFB as low as you can without losing the feel that you are looking for. I have found that every racing sim (Except Forza 6) FFB is way too high. I think running 90% FFB on PCARS wiped out my 1st TX base. It still works, but it does have calibration issues. Now I am down to 65% FFB (Running Jack Spades settings Bumps plus latest build http://pcars.oscarolim.pt/) and it feels way better and more realistic. This is all on the XB1. I also have the T300 base for the PS4. PC is in the near future.
     
  10. boxistracer6

    boxistracer6
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    thanks for all the repleys about what does it cost to setup a pc my son could do the work all I have is a laptop now
     
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  11. 2pfspiff

    2pfspiff
    2015 pCars World Endurance Challenge AM Champion Premium Member

    You can do a good gaming rig for about $500 bucks. It won't give you the bling of the game, but it will work. For a great gaming rig you will be around $1000 to $1500. Here is a youtube channel called Paul's Hardware (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRnHcRQUxuoduPRkcsG8AWG3yxJq12hH5). The link will take you to his monthly builds. There are several builds of a $1000 or less. Remember you don't have to go top of the line with everything. Spend the bulk of your money on a graphics card. If you have it the 1080 is the best, but they will run around $600. A 1070 will put you in the $400 range. The AMD 480 is about $280 plus, but does not have the horsepower of the 1070.

    You can go with an I5 processor instead of an I7. Most games are GPU heavy so a lower class processor will work fine unless you plan on doing video editing. The Z170 motherboards (socket 1151) allow you to overclock the processor. If you have no intention of overclocking then a standard H170 will work just fine. If you get a Intel K series Skylake processor (I5 6600K or I7 6700K) you will need to get a CPU cooler as well. The K series processors allow you to overclock but are a little bit more expensive than a standard Intel Skylake CPU (I5 6600 or I7 6700).

    The Skylake intel processors (Socket 1151) will be cheaper to build than a X99 series (Socket 2011-3). The X99 series are more for video editing because the processors usually have more cores (1151 socket maxes at 4 cores and 2011-3 socket maxes at 10 cores for consumer level). They can be great gaming machines as well, but they are overkill for just gaming.

    With Memory you should be fine with 8gigs of DDR4 to start with. You can get away with 2400 to 3200. you can always upgrade the speed of the memory or add more (8 to 16 gigs) later on.

    PC Parts Picker (https://pcpartpicker.com/) will allow you to put the PC together and see what the price will be. It finds the cheapest price for the part that you pick online. It will also tell you the wattage of the total system and if there is any incompatibility with any part. Great site to put it all together before you order.
     
  12. boxistracer6

    boxistracer6
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    ordered new servo wheel&foot pedals arriving 10/01/16 2pfspiff thank you for time & information I am a old guy 70years old & the only game I play is f1 may get some other racing games after the new wheel setup I have penlty of money my wife just wont let me spent it
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2016
  13. 2pfspiff

    2pfspiff
    2015 pCars World Endurance Challenge AM Champion Premium Member

    I hear ya. My wife makes a really good living as a stay at home mom. I only make $250 twice a month. I am looking to build a new PC for Iracing, Pcars and Asseto Corsa.

    Just do what I usually do. Buy it now and ask permission later. :thumbsup: