• "Auto racing began 5 minutes after the second car was built." - Henry Ford
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Dear Guest. Follow RaceDepartment on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Twitch, Steam and YouTube.

TOE IN/OUT

Discussion in 'RACE 07 - Official WTCC Game' started by Sebastien Levret, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. Sebastien Levret

    Sebastien Levret

    Messages:
    9,570
    Ratings:
    +80
    Hello,

    Have you notice some modification of the behavior with the parameters Toe in/out for the seat ?
    Because I try to modify it, but i didn't see major change.

    Thank you.
     
  2. Matt Alpeter

    Matt Alpeter

    Ratings:
    +0
    did you look at the temps of your tires? I'm sure they changed a LOT
     
  3. João Andias

    João Andias

    Messages:
    834
    Ratings:
    +0

    Don't move much away from "stock" settings... sure then your car might turn in better into a corner, but then your tires go away much faster ;)

    Btw, I've seen very unsymmetrical setups to toe in/out...
    I wonder if those are effective in anyway (well maybe to correct a very unstable/unbalanced car, but then again, I would go by another “route”)?
     
  4. Lee Downham

    Lee Downham

    Messages:
    1,970
    Ratings:
    +1
    Whilst I am here though ... toe in / out should change how well the front wheels turn into a corner, but at the expense of speed and tyre wear:
    More negative toe in, more "grip" but slower straight line speed and more tyre wear
    Less negative toe in, less grip but more straight line speed and less tyre wear

    EDIT: Try Oschesleben, take the toe-in to 0 and drive, then put it to around -1.0 and drive again - you should notice a difference. If not, maybe soften the front suspension / ARB a bit and try again - you should feel a difference there mate.
     
  5. Richard Bunschoten

    Richard Bunschoten

    Messages:
    351
    Ratings:
    +0
    :laugh::D:D:D LMAO :D:D:D
     
  6. Sebastien Levret

    Sebastien Levret

    Messages:
    9,570
    Ratings:
    +80
    I notice some modifications of the temperature. For the rear wheels, with a Toe in (positive value), the temperature of the wheels lost 5°C. For the front wheels, the temperature decrease also, but less than 5°C (with a Toe in).
    But it was more easy to turn with a Toe Out (negative value) for the front wheels.
     
  7. Sebastien Levret

    Sebastien Levret

    Messages:
    9,570
    Ratings:
    +80
    Thanks you for these information
     
  8. Steven Palmer

    Steven Palmer

    Messages:
    1,916
    Ratings:
    +1
    Is this what you were thinking of Lee :wink:
     
  9. Lee Downham

    Lee Downham

    Messages:
    1,970
    Ratings:
    +1
    ... nope ... that's much better than what I had in mind :laugh2:
     
  10. Leandro Lage

    Leandro Lage

    Messages:
    73
    Ratings:
    +0
    i´ve never noticed any diference
     
  11. Manuel Abel

    Manuel Abel

    Messages:
    143
    Ratings:
    +0
    ive noticed a diffrence on THAT toe above lol nice!
     
  12. Luc Mangas

    Luc Mangas

    Messages:
    853
    Ratings:
    +0
    Well, my latest testing showed no difference for the rear Toe In: I tried 0° till 1°, nada, zip, nothing. It's maybe me...
     
  13. Neil Gault

    Neil Gault

    Messages:
    1,463
    Ratings:
    +341
    must be you, try the F3000 as it appears to be more sensitive to toe in/out than anything else
     
  14. Lee Downham

    Lee Downham

    Messages:
    1,970
    Ratings:
    +1
    Minis tend to be fairly sensitive to rear toe at certain tracks, maybe try to take one to Cadwell and adjust the rear toe from 0.0 to 1.0 and see what happens
     
  15. Andrew Evans

    Andrew Evans

    Ratings:
    +0
    yow! all setup threads should come with a bonus picture special! :flypig:
     
  16. Lee Downham

    Lee Downham

    Messages:
    1,970
    Ratings:
    +1
    remember though ... too much toe and your wheels get hot, as demonstrated below: