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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Bram, Jun 7, 2013.

  1. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

  2. Rui F. Martins

    Rui F. Martins
    Premium Member

    That kind of stuff is just shameful, they just do what they want, they read personal conversations just in name of security. In my opinion is this programs that send all of US credibility down the drain, and that could affect people that are not from the US, i mean lots of people use, for exemple, facebook all around the world, they can be monitoring anyone around the world even if they have nothign to do with the US.
     
  3. NSA Whistleblower has tried to tell people for a long time now. He created the program.

    Listen to what he says at 1:43 in the first video. Should give you an idea of how bad the problem is.


     
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  4. Omer Said

    Omer Said
    Weresloth Staff Premium Member

    So even our most intimate intra-family/friend messages/photos are monitored, that is just gross... :thumbsdown: On the other hand, it is really useful in tracking criminals. That is something extremely hard to balance it seems.
     
  5. In the wake of last night’s revelation thateveryone in the world has a creepy NSA-shaped stalker, defenders of online liberty and generally angry internet peopleAnonymous have leaked a treasure trove of NSA documents, including seriously important stuff like the US Department of Defense’s ‘Strategic Vision’ for controlling the internet.
    The documents — 13 in total — were posted online, along with an accompanying message full of the normal Anonymous bluster: people won’t be silenced, they have the memory of trivia-master elephants, the governments of the world will fall, your average press release really.

    The documents seem to mostly relate to PRISM and supporting operations, and mostly date from around 2008, supposedly not long after PRISM first reared its ugly head. One of the key things Anonymous has highlighted from the documents is the existence of an “intelligence-sharing network” that shares data gleaned from PRISM with “intelligence partners” around the world. Although we’re still in the process of combing through the documents, you can bet your last Bitcoin that ‘intelligence’ has been shared with British security services.
    Hit up the documents for further details; just be warned that although this might look like the plot of a B-list movie starring Aston Kutcher, the docs themselves are incredibly dry and full of more acronyms than whatever presentation you should be working on.
    http://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-leaked-a-trove-of-nsa-documents-511854773
     
  6. Hiroshi Awazu

    Hiroshi Awazu
    Off Topic Moderator





    It's terrible how much our privacy is being invaded, even when one is doing nothing wrong.
     
  7. Asked in 2012 by Fox News about collection on American citizens, NSA Director, Gen. Keith Alexander said
    “that the agency does not ‘hold data on U.S. citizens.’”
    As recently as last month, Gen. Alexander told the Reuters Cybersecurity Summit, “The great irony is we’re the only ones not spying on the American people.”
    But such statements go beyond those made to the media or conference goers by Gen. Alexander. They included similar statements made to Congress.

    "In July 2011, Senators Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Mark Udall (D-CO) sent a letter to the NSA asking for answers about its collection of data on American citizens. The NSA’s response read, in part,
    You asked whether communications of Americans have been collected… Section 702 of the FAA [FISA Amendments Act] explicitly prohibits the intentional targeting of persons reasonably believed to be located in the United States or United States persons located abroad. The Intelligence Community has put in place a variety of procedures, which have been approved by the FISA Court as required by law, to ensure that only persons reasonably believed to be located outside the United States are targeted and to prevent the intentional acquisition of any communications as to which the sender and all intended recipients are known to be located in the United States. Guidelines are also required by law to ensure compliance with other limitations on FAA collection, including the requirement that a U.S. person may not be intentionally targeted under section 702. If it is discovered that a target has entered the U.S. or is a U.S. person, he or she is promptly detargeted and reports are made as appropriate to the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and the FISA Court. Moreover, when communications from persons located in the United States are collected because they are communicating with a lawful target, the privacy and civil liberty rights of U.S. persons are protected through the careful implementation of the procedures required under the FAA to ’minimize the acquisition and retention, and prohibit the dissemination“ of information about U.S. persons.’”
    (Emphasis added. A PDF of the letter is available from Sen. Wyden’s Senate website, http://www.wyden.senate.gov/download/?id=3e2b2b89–83c8–4cca-bc61–7f4c13ae3ac7)"

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/seanlawson/ ... ic-spying/


    Lies lies and more lies, the DoJ and DHS frantically trying to bury their scandals but this time too much may have gotten out. In a recent Anonymous posting they released a zip of classified NSA documents that outline the plan of PRISM(the US spy tool that was just discovered as well as GIG, the program on steroids and a global scale. It's already spying on 35 different countries and all funneling into one database. They've outdone Orwell this time.

    Do some research, get pissed off and write your representatives and Senators and let them know you don't approve of the warrant less 4th Ammendment breaking searches and surveillance you're subjected to.
     
  8. Hahaha this reminds me so much of that Simpsons episode where Bart shoots down the Maior League Baseball satellite that was spying on him!

    But seriously, to any scary dude trying to find any dirt on me, good luck trawling through all of the hilarious cat videos that I've watched over the years. I'm sure they'd just give up finding anything in between!
     
  9. Rui F. Martins

    Rui F. Martins
    Premium Member

    That's exactly the point, even if we haven't done nothing wrong in our lives we are monitored, our private conversations are read by someone we don't know, our privacy is violated.
    Even if we don't do nothing suspect i don't like the idea of someone reading my private conversations, there's nothing wrong with them, but they are private, not for anyone to see
     
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  10. ML2166

    ML2166
    If quizzes are quizzical then what are tests?

    <~~~~~~~~Screwed.

    :roflmao:
     
  11. 2nd. XD
     
  12. I've said it before and I'll say it again, people think China and North Korea are bad but the people that really need to worry are those in the West who really do believe they have FREEDOM of SPEECH, FFS wake up, you are monitored as much if not MORE than both of those countries, it's just done covertly, PRISM is just the tip of the iceberg.
     
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  13. Pete Bone

    Pete Bone
    Premium Member

    They've been doing it since the 80's, its just now were finding out more about it.

    Dont get yourself an Xbox1 if you like privacy, that thing is disgraceful.
     
  14. Tom

    Tom
    Staff Emeritus Staff

    So is anyone actually surprised the government, especially the US government, is spying on everyone and their pets? If you really are surprised: how gullible & credulous are you?

    Tom
     
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  15. 5000....that´s five thousand...requests from US Government to just Apple in 6 months..

    Apparently they will soon release a list of "prevented terror attacks"....which means "we need some time to make up some things and then write the list"
     
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  16. Not really, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Menwith_Hill (not a Million miles from me) it's not exactly hidden and yet people still seem SHOCKED :rolleyes::speechless:

    Someone on TV put it rather nicely the other day "Little Brother bowing down to Big Brother", how many Spy Bases do the UK or any EU Country have in the US?, hint. it's LESS than ONE (1).
     
  17. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    We have two that monitor communication as well in the Netherlands. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellietgrondstation_NSO

    Its hilarious how America and the EU(SSR) sweep everything under the carpet as being.terrorism.

    Terrorists you can never beat and its an enemy that you cannot identify visually. That alone justifies an everlasting legitimization of trying to control the entire world. The person that came up with this strategy hit the big brother bullseye.

    The chances you get hit by a bus are how many times greater than being blown to pieces by "terrorists".

    Fear rules the world. Fear created by ourselves.
     
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