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[ROUND 2 LE MANS] BVM vs ANE

Discussion in 'Simracing Team Challenge' started by Xosé Estrada, Sep 27, 2010.

  1. No penalty

    25.0%
  2. +15 sec

    50.0%
  3. +30 sec

    16.7%
  4. +60 sec

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  5. No points

    8.3%
  6. No points / no qualy in next race

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  7. No points / DQ for next race

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  1. Xosé Estrada

    Xosé Estrada
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    Disadvantaged car: Nils Norberg
    Team: BVM


    Reported car: Keith Ettles
    Reported Team: ANE


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    Looks like Keith did not want to cede the position even after the pass was made as he hit the rear of the BVM car causing a crash that sent the BVM car spinning off and nearly collecting the following cars.
     
  2. Michael Hart-Jones

    Michael Hart-Jones

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    AnE vote, no penalty.

    Keith clearly goes off line to give the position, as Nils has more then 25% of his car infront, but was not left the room by Nils to allow him to remain on track. This is a clear racing incident.
     
  3. Ross Balfour

    Ross Balfour
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    Nils car was actually the full car's length ahead, and have sufficient room in my view, I vote 15seconds but I do not see the point in a time penalty as ANE were the last to cars to score points, so a 0-60 second penalty will not make a difference
     
  4. Michael Hart-Jones

    Michael Hart-Jones

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    What I meant was that into the first part of the corner Nils had over 25% of his car in front, and at that point you can clearly see Keith move left to allow Nils to pass cleanly, however when it came to Nils leaving Keith room on the left to remain on track, remember that Keith clearly moves left to the outside of the corner, there was no consideration of the fact the Keith is STILL to his left, although it is only slightly.

    That is my take on it though. Others may disagree.
     
  5. Flavio Borgna

    Flavio Borgna

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    COR vote 30 secs,
    iven if he (18°) has 44 secs of advantage on 19° place
     
  6. Mike Simian

    Mike Simian

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    +15 think it was a bit more than Nils not leaving room. Anyway doesnt matter, time penalty doesnt do anything. Just be more careful.
     
  7. Simon Melhuish

    Simon Melhuish

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    30sec pen from us, the place should of been conceded as leaving your nose in will always result in contact.
     
  8. Eckhart von Glan

    Eckhart von Glan

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    BFR vote for +15 secs, avoidable race accident just barely inside the category "incident report".
     
  9. Neil Gault

    Neil Gault

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    since a offence was committed then it needs some kind of punishment so from the choices we have on offer then the first one that give any punishment of meaning is "no points"
     
  10. Robin Johansson

    Robin Johansson

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    where shell he go after being litel pusht out? so he was sliding in the sand and hitting him so no penelty from gbk
    for its not okey to drive to fast in and push the ather one out and then the ather car get penelty
     
  11. Ivo Simons

    Ivo Simons

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    Voted +15 seconds. Followed into next round because they didnt finish this race.
     
  12. David Zafiu

    David Zafiu

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    Keith would anyway ended up hitting Nils even if Nils would have left him room because Keith hit the bump and the car was unable to steer.MAG voted no penalty because was pretty much an usual accident where you can't tell exactly who is resposable.
     
  13. Hugo Hekkenberg

    Hugo Hekkenberg

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    The FDR team votes +15 sec for an avoidable collision.
     
  14. Keith Ettles

    Keith Ettles

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    just a quick note as im pretty unhappy about this incident. Nils dove down the inside off the racing line, i moved over to let him pass but going into the left of the corner i had no room and nowhere to go to avoid and hit the bollard so i had no control. Avoidable ? hard to say but for me its a racing incident, situation reversed i wouldnt even report it.
     
  15. Xosé Estrada

    Xosé Estrada
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    Well Keith, the penalty was floating between No penalty and +15 secs (-2 points now), so that's pretty much the impression of the people here too.
     
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