Sean Greenlaw
PrestoGP Veteran
I thought id make a thread about it to keep it separate from the rest and added a poll.
Main reasons i think we should not have had a restarted or have restarts is its impossible to be fair to everyone restarts just leads to confusion and other people have had races where had to esc or damaged car in 1st lap before, even people have lc or chosen wrong tires in q by accident or pushed esc during lap 1 to avoid a incident to and dont think we have ever voluntarily restarted a q or race before. On the race also it puts us in difficult position for future application of the rule.
Will people call for restart if for example they have wrecked there own race or even just for making a slight bad start losing a few places. It could also lead to drivers having less of a safety margain and thinking i can go for this move at the start if mistake we will have restart anyway. The restart idea is open to abuse.
People have had bad luck and sometimes will have dnf out of there control or not and this will improve everyones future safety especially at start of races but its important to not to have restarts for realism and most importantly to be fair to everyone, you cant allow for every incident that happens or restarts may become never ending.
Looking at the Race Tim and David have contact in T5. Tim then goes into barrier and rejoins the track and spins out losing control into the racing line and collects Peter and Anthony with there races effictively over and are passingers in the accident Peter even pushing esc incase he collided with someone, Tim makes it back to pits, stops fixs and exits spinning hits 2 barriers and loses front wing and pushes esc.
Tim and David in my replay looked like there was a sync issue i could see a gap between them as contact happens but looks like theres enough room for both, the cars will obviously be in different places in each persons replay. As Tim rejoins he must put power on to early still on grass and spins as rejoins track obviously slight more caution here and there wouldnt have been any other incident. Peter and Anthony couldnt have done anything differently anyway to try and avoid.
If i was anybody in these Incidents i know for sure i wouldnt have asked for restart and Im sure anyone been part of a race ending incident before or most in league would also not have posted restart if they were in the incident.
Im unsure when restart was called for and by who as i try to avoid reading comments during race but I did notice Tim Saying Restart ? dont know if that was he 1st but i see no reason for it also Tim is still in the race, also no restarts and no posting during race is a rule right ?, there has been incidents similar or worse in the past anyway, i know its sometimes hard to take race over in such short time but this is simracing and other people have had to do this in past and didnt post during race.
I think this put Nico in a difficult position having to think restart or not ? while trying to concentrate on driving to and is unfair on him he deserves to have a hassle free race and not having to decide if incident he may have no idea of deserves a restart is also the reason for no posting in race.
You can also look at it like if Tim, Peter, and Anthony were also going to dnf and have no points, Reik would have had 75 points or more lead perhaps to Tim instead of 31 and with Peter and Anthony both dropping positions, This may sound harsh to but im not implying anything about this but these are just the facts of the situation. Remember there will be people who have lost points or dnf from incidents in previous races but they have no way of getting a 2nd chance to get any of lost potentiol points or finishes which makes the situation impossible to be fair to everyone as we were effitively racing under different rules. Points arent the most important things in the league but the rules and implementation of them are key to the integrity of the league. So the points will be debatable along with any future restarts adding to further confusion in points.
Anyway its hard to see how we could race under a rule which effectively we can call for restarts and i think we should race under the understanding theres no restarts in the future as this is most sensable option and what i thinks has been used from start for a reason.
These are the reasons i think we shouldnt have restarts abit of a long one sorry lol but i think everyone should post what they think to
Main reasons i think we should not have had a restarted or have restarts is its impossible to be fair to everyone restarts just leads to confusion and other people have had races where had to esc or damaged car in 1st lap before, even people have lc or chosen wrong tires in q by accident or pushed esc during lap 1 to avoid a incident to and dont think we have ever voluntarily restarted a q or race before. On the race also it puts us in difficult position for future application of the rule.
Will people call for restart if for example they have wrecked there own race or even just for making a slight bad start losing a few places. It could also lead to drivers having less of a safety margain and thinking i can go for this move at the start if mistake we will have restart anyway. The restart idea is open to abuse.
People have had bad luck and sometimes will have dnf out of there control or not and this will improve everyones future safety especially at start of races but its important to not to have restarts for realism and most importantly to be fair to everyone, you cant allow for every incident that happens or restarts may become never ending.
Looking at the Race Tim and David have contact in T5. Tim then goes into barrier and rejoins the track and spins out losing control into the racing line and collects Peter and Anthony with there races effictively over and are passingers in the accident Peter even pushing esc incase he collided with someone, Tim makes it back to pits, stops fixs and exits spinning hits 2 barriers and loses front wing and pushes esc.
Tim and David in my replay looked like there was a sync issue i could see a gap between them as contact happens but looks like theres enough room for both, the cars will obviously be in different places in each persons replay. As Tim rejoins he must put power on to early still on grass and spins as rejoins track obviously slight more caution here and there wouldnt have been any other incident. Peter and Anthony couldnt have done anything differently anyway to try and avoid.
If i was anybody in these Incidents i know for sure i wouldnt have asked for restart and Im sure anyone been part of a race ending incident before or most in league would also not have posted restart if they were in the incident.
Im unsure when restart was called for and by who as i try to avoid reading comments during race but I did notice Tim Saying Restart ? dont know if that was he 1st but i see no reason for it also Tim is still in the race, also no restarts and no posting during race is a rule right ?, there has been incidents similar or worse in the past anyway, i know its sometimes hard to take race over in such short time but this is simracing and other people have had to do this in past and didnt post during race.
I think this put Nico in a difficult position having to think restart or not ? while trying to concentrate on driving to and is unfair on him he deserves to have a hassle free race and not having to decide if incident he may have no idea of deserves a restart is also the reason for no posting in race.
You can also look at it like if Tim, Peter, and Anthony were also going to dnf and have no points, Reik would have had 75 points or more lead perhaps to Tim instead of 31 and with Peter and Anthony both dropping positions, This may sound harsh to but im not implying anything about this but these are just the facts of the situation. Remember there will be people who have lost points or dnf from incidents in previous races but they have no way of getting a 2nd chance to get any of lost potentiol points or finishes which makes the situation impossible to be fair to everyone as we were effitively racing under different rules. Points arent the most important things in the league but the rules and implementation of them are key to the integrity of the league. So the points will be debatable along with any future restarts adding to further confusion in points.
Anyway its hard to see how we could race under a rule which effectively we can call for restarts and i think we should race under the understanding theres no restarts in the future as this is most sensable option and what i thinks has been used from start for a reason.
These are the reasons i think we shouldnt have restarts abit of a long one sorry lol but i think everyone should post what they think to