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Renault/Lotus developing ride height adjustment system?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Chris Jenkins, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. Chris Jenkins

    Chris Jenkins
    Driving til the wheels fall off

    There's been a few conflicting reports over the past couple days about a ride height system that Lotus F1 (Renault) have been developing.
    Here's the initial report from The F1 Times:

    This would obviously be illegal under current regulations, which led to this follow-on report from Autosport.

    Pretty interesting development for us to discuss!
  2. Aidan Keranen

    Aidan Keranen
    #4 2KF1 Racing RDGPC|LoL/RL Caster@AussieGamingTV Premium Member

    interesting. does that mean Kimi will win a race?
    but in all seriousness, this is good. it shows that Formula 1 is still all about pushing the boundries and developing new stuff.
    though i'm not surprised that Ferrari were the first to cry to the FIA whether it is legal or not...
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  3. is it legal though? Just looked up the technical regs.It isnt a powered device.
    BUT then again, it works with the car in motion.

    10.2 Suspension geometry :
    10.2.1 With the steering wheel fixed, the position of each wheel centre and the orientation of its rotation axis must be completely and uniquely defined by a function of its principally vertical suspension travel, save only for the effects of reasonable compliance which does not intentionally provide further degrees of freedom.
    10.2.2 Any powered device which is capable of altering the configuration or affecting the performance of any part of the suspension system is forbidden.
    10.2.3 No adjustment may be made to the suspension system while the car is in motion.
  4. It´s legal. It´s part of the syspension and is not driver controlled.

    Ferrari cries because when they are innovative it gets banned. Remember the hole in the nosecone Ferrari had?
    Nodoby would be able to copy them because you had to do crash tests with it, everyone started crying and Whiting banned it.
    Same with the aero-rims, they had to be homologated before the season starts and when Ferrari was alone with this type of wheel rim, FIA decided for next year to remove the homologation rule.

    Yet they have no problems with F-ducts, (which was legal but it costs teams enormous amounts of money to develop for a relatively small performance boost) or now the EBD´s etc.
  5. Chris Jenkins

    Chris Jenkins
    Driving til the wheels fall off

    Stephano Dominicali has shed a bit more light on the system:

  6. Very intersting. This could well mean that Kimi could be on the top right from the start of season.. Nothing would please me more. I hope they can keep the system.
  7. Read the last sentence in Chris quote.
  8. Anything can happen.... Until i see the first race results, it's unconfirmed to me.
  9. So FIA can´t change rules after the first race?
  10. Chris Jenkins

    Chris Jenkins
    Driving til the wheels fall off

    I'm pretty sure it has to be discussed at the technical working group meetings and voted on. Unless it clearly breaches existing regulations, which the FIA have said it doesn't.
  11. Meanwhile i declare everything what Ferrari pronounce as Spam!
    Go Kimi Go :)
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  12. It's being reported now by a few F1 sites that the FIA has banned the reactive ride system. First time I heard it was from Mark Gillan of Williams, being interviewed by Peter Windsor.
  13. Chris Jenkins

    Chris Jenkins
    Driving til the wheels fall off

    Wow. I wonder what made the FIA backtrack so quickly.
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  14. Bruno Sousa Ferreira

    Bruno Sousa Ferreira
    Strategy Mister!

    Every time someone comes up with a good idea and its within the rules books the FIA straight away ban it. :( it takes out the innovation aspect out of the designing the cars. Dissapointed but thats what happens when other teams object, and that is part of F1.
  15. Why didn't they just keep it a secret so FIA wouldn't ban it?
  16. Bram

    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

  17. Red Bull & Mclaren.

    It was no surprise RBR said they were very calm about developing their own system.

    It´s completely ridiculous to be honest..
  18. Well, it would be pretty sweet irony if RB, the team which is basically the reason why some teams developed a reactive ride height system because they couldn't copy its (alleged) flexible front wing, now got it banned because it's a moveable aerodynamic device :D
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  19. Yea that´s another thing. Everyone knows their front wing breaks the rules. It´s designed to close the gap at speed but since it passes the crap tests by FIA it´s legal even though everyone knows it´s really not.

    The fact that they say it´s legal then when teams start spending millions on developing it they just change their mind completely.
    They knew about this for several months, FIA.
  20. FIA = Formel Incest Association !
    Show me one government which changes every week the rules ?