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Real Feel Help...Please!

Discussion in 'rFactor' started by MaxSharp, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. Maybe it's the fact that I'm getting older, but I can't (for the life of me) figure out how to work this 'RealFeel' mod. After performing my weekly limit of Google searches for 'Installing RealFeel for GTR2 and rFactor', I'm truly at my wits end. I've read all the posts that I can get my hands on and I've read all the readme files that came with the downloaded mod. But I can't seem to find this mysterious 'MaxForceAtSteeringRack' that supposedly is in some .ini file that is created once I jump into a new car?? WTF??

    Just a note....I've dropped the RealFeelPlugin.dll file into my rFactor/Plugins folder, configured my G25 profiler to the settings that were recommended in the readme file-but now what the heck do I do? I can't find this 'MaxForceAtSteeringRack' value? I've looked in my rfactor 'users' folder, I've checked the rFactor root directory, I've checked the actual car folders that were just driven....heck, I've even checked under my bed. What am I doing wrong?? I give....I simply give.

    There's a general Controller/Config file that I found under the 'Controller' Folder within the root of rfactor....But nothing that says MaxForceAtSteeringRack...unless I'm blind:

    [ Force Feedback ]
    FFB Device Type="1" // Type of FFB controller: 0=none 1=wheel, 2=stick/custom, 3=rumble pad.
    FFB Effects Level="1" // Number of FFB effects to use: 0=No Effects, 1=Low, 2=Medium, 3=High, 4=Full, 5=Custom.
    FFB Gain="1.00000" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0 to 1.0.
    FFB Ignore Controllers="0" // Do not use FFB on: 1=controller1, 2=controller2, 4=controller3 (or add values to ignore multiple controllers)
    FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis.
    FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis.
    FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.20000" // Controls frequency of steering vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration.
    FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.03500" // Magnitude of steering vibration at 0mph (reference point).
    FFB steer vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude).
    FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
    FFB steer force prediction="0.00100" // Time into the future that force is predicted, to help counteract wheel latency (0.0 to disable)
    FFB steer force max change="100.00000" // Maximum change per second based on current difference between calculated and applied force, to help avoid jerky behavior (values under 15 or so should reduce jerkiness, 100 disables)
    FFB steer force neutral range="0.04500" // Max distance from center "neutral force" location where forces are reduced to help avoid oscillation (0.0 to disable)
    FFB steer force exponent="0.80000" // Steering force output "sensitivity". Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity.
    FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction).
    FFB steer force output max="1.80000" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0
    FFB steer force grip function="0.55000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0 (previous hardcoded value was 1.0) - lower values will make steering force decrease LATER as front tire grip is lost - try 0.3
    FFB steer force grip weight="0.90000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force.
    FFB steer force grip factor="0.40000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.2 to 0.6 (previously hardcoded to 0.4). How much of a factor the front wheel grip is on the steering weight.
    FFB steer front grip fract="0.00000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0 (previous hardcoded value was 0.0), additional effect of front grip loss on steering force
    FFB steer update threshold="0.00000" // Amount of change required to update steer force/vibe (0.0 - 1.0). Lower values = steering force updated more frequently = lower frame rate.
    FFB steer friction coefficient="0.17500" // Coefficient to use for steering friction. Range: -1.0 to 1.0
    FFB steer friction saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering friction. Range: 0 - 1.0
    FFB steer damper coefficient="0.17500" // Coefficient to use for steering damper. Range: -1.0 to 1.0
    FFB steer damper saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering damper. Range: 0 - 1.0
    FFB throttle vibe freq mult="0.17000" // Scales actual engine frequency to force FFB vibration frequency. Suggested range: 0.10 to 0.50
    FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude="0.09000" // Magnitude of engine vibration at 0rpm (reference point).
    FFB throttle vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude).
    FFB throttle vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
    FFB throttle vibe update thresh="0.08000" // Amount of change required to update throttle vibe (0.0 - 1.0)
    FFB brake vibe freq mult="0.90000" // Scales actual brake rotational frequency to force feedback vibration frequency.
    FFB brake vibe zero magnitude="0.10000" // Magnitude of brake vibration at 0mph (reference point).
    FFB brake vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB brake vibe zero magnitude).
    FFB brake vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
    FFB brake vibe update thresh="0.05000" // Amount of change required to update brake vibe (0.0 to 1.0)
    FFB rumble strip magnitude="0.35000" // How strong the rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect.
    FFB rumble strip freq mult="0.60000" // Rumble stip frequency multiplier 1.0 = one rumble per wheel rev.
    FFB rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
    FFB rumble strip pull factor="-1.50000" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5.
    FFB rumble strip update thresh="0.07500" // Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0)
    FFB jolt magnitude="1.00000" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0.



    Please Help!
    ~MaxSharp
     
  2. The ini file you are looking for is in the root rFactor folder and is called RealFeelPlugin. In there you will find your mysterious 'MaxForceAtSteeringRack' setting :)
     
  3. I've clicked on the rFactor directory and I see absolutely no RealFeelPlugin folder....the only RealFeel plugin I have in my rFactor file is the .dll file that I dropped into the 'Plugins' folder....I simply can't find it???

    I've even jumped into rFactor and drove the BMW Sauber F1 in hopes that this folder would be created after I drove the car (and after I hit L Control Numpad 2).....and nothing. This can't be this hard.
     
  4. It is not a folder - it is a text file.

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  5. Alrighty...Staring at all my files in the rFactor main folder and I simply don't have that text file...What have I done wrong?
     
  6. When you leave the pits and drive does it say 'RealFeel enabled'?

    There is no RealFeel folder - just a .dll file in your PlugIns folder.

    Have you disabled Hardware Plugins by accident? Default key is 'G'
     
  7. When you leave the pits and drive does it say 'RealFeel enabled'? It sure DOESN'T!

    There is no RealFeel folder - just a .dll file in your PlugIns folder. I understand...there is no RealFeel Folder, but there is a Plugin Folder and I have the RealFeelPlugin.dll file sitting in it.

    Have you disabled Hardware Plugins by accident? Default key is 'G' Nope...just checked. I hit G before I left the pits and made sure HWP was ENABLED....Took two laps in the Sauber F1 and still no .ini file in my root directory. I've even downloaded the RealFeel file from another site...Reinstalled it thinking it may have been corrupt..I have no idea.
     
  8. Really can't help then sorry - never ran into any difficulties personally.
     
  9. Well, I tried everyones suggestions...Downloaded and tried 3 different sites that offered the RealFeel Mod (including the link above)...I did get a step closer, but not quite all the way...
    I DID finally get a RealFeel.ini file, but only on ONE car?? I test drove 12 cars to be exact and only the 'Hammer6' settings were found in the RealFeel.ini text document. The F1 Sauber BMW, GT Mustang Saleen, VHR Stockcars, etc, etc were never listed after I turned 2-3 laps in them?? I don't understand??
    After downloading from the above link (for the .92 version) I DID actually HEAR some chick say "RealFeel Activated" when I first start up a car (in the garage) and head out onto the track....Never got that before.
    ...Just wondering why or how I get the rest of these cars to send their settings to the .ini text file. Suggestions? :) Thanks guys, for all your help. Spent so much time trying to get this Mod to work I'm forgetting how to drive. :)
     
  10. Max as sayed in the other thread try the feelreal mod from Ivo its posted in the RFactor section of RD in a sticky thread
    you just need to replace everything in your controler file with what Ivo posted RF has then a realy good ffb with out death zones
    around the center position of the wheel and best is you dont need to configurate the realfeel.ini for every car
    as the realfeel pluging can couse game crashes too its the better way to go


    Feels Real FFB for RF <---- there you go

    you will love the feel of it i am sure
     
  11. Consider it done....RealFeel has given me a Real Headache. :) Thank you!
     
  12. Just to add something, I had similar problems with realfeel when installing it with Windows 7. Some other plugins were misfunctioning too. The solution was a new rFactor install outside the PROGRAM FILES(X86) folder. I read that somewhere and tried, all plugins work fine now.
     
  13. Thanks for the tip. :smile: