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Practice laps X Qualify laps

Discussion in 'RACE 07 - Official WTCC Game' started by Carlos Moutinho, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. Why qualify laps are always faster then practice laps ? Sometimes the difference is 1 sec. .
    Is there a logical explaination for this or it's just a little bug ?
  2. I'd assume there may be an implementation of the improved grip level because of the practice running, however that doesn't explain why the grip disappears for the race unless every night before the race it rains..
  3. Dave Stephenson

    Dave Stephenson
    Technical Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    I think it simulates a rise in track temperature which would be lost to some extent on the next day, although this isnt usually a problem due to support races. Its a bit sketchy really. I wish they would just fully implement variable track and air temperatures, and timescaling to go with them.
  4. I have this strange feeling that the grip level is the same on race day as it is in qualy...but that might be wishful thinking :p
  5. Nonononono ... defo not ... at least not in my experience.
    On a 1 min 30 or 40 sec lap, you should be a good 1 second or so quicker in quali.

    Track temps are usually up quite considerably (5 or 10ºC often), which is more optimal for just a few hotlaps, but if the track temps were to remain at those higher temps, your tyres would cook quicker than a quick thing.

    I always assumed the idea was to increase the grip level in quali to simulate softer/qualifying tyres, then reduce it to normal levels again for the race and to simulate harder compounds and stop you melting your tyres or overheating your engine after something like 5 laps.

    Try it ... start up a race ... put it on changeable, then advance through each session. Look at the "session info" for track and air temps.
    Drive a 4 or 5 laps in each session with the same setup and fuel load, you should feel a big difference and also see it in your laptimes, check the temps of your tyres and water/oil when you stop in the setup screen ... in quali they will more than likely be much higher.
    (even better and more noticeable if you use something like Dingo's real time telemetry tool to see what is going on with temps etc). :good:
  6. I didn't actually realise this was true, but in quali I'm definately 0.5-1 seconds faster and just thought it was cos I was trying extra hard.
  7. i think simbim simply wants to give the qualifining an extra pint of exitement and add only a few percentage grip or troque.
  8. Well also during a race you have to have avoid other cars and sometimes slow for a blue flag as opposed to qualifying.
  9. Never knew there was actually a difference. Always wondered this. lol!
  10. I read in one of the forums about adjusting the amount of fuel that you're carrying. Now I'm not in the game right now but I wonder if there is a difference in the fuel load (i.e. having a full load during practice as opposed to having a reduced load for qualifying)? If there is then that might have something to do with it.
  11. Dave Stephenson

    Dave Stephenson
    Technical Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    not really. I end my practices with a couple of qualy dry runs, low fuel, fresh tyres. still qualy sessions are always faster.