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Featured Poll: Who do You Rate as the Greatest World Champion of All Time?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Paul Jeffrey, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. Giuseppe Farina (1950)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Juan Manuel Fangio (51, 54, 55, 56, 57)

    8.6%
  3. Alberto Ascari (52, 53)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Mike Hawthorn (58)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Jack Brabham (59, 60, 66))

    1.0%
  6. Phil Hill (61)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Graham Hill (62, 68)

    0.4%
  8. Jim Clark (63, 65)

    6.3%
  9. John Surtees (64)

    0.8%
  10. Denny Hulme (67)

    0.1%
  11. Jackie Stewart (69, 71, 73)

    1.8%
  12. Jochen Rindt (70)

    0.3%
  13. Emerson Fittipaldi (72, 74)

    0.1%
  14. Niki Lauda (75, 77, 84)

    3.4%
  15. James Hunt (76)

    0.1%
  16. Mario Andretti (78)

    1.0%
  17. Jody Scheckter (79)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  18. Alan Jones (80)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  19. Nelson Piquet (81, 83, 87)

    0.5%
  20. Keke Rosberg (82)

    0.3%
  21. Alain Prost (85, 86, 89, 93)

    3.5%
  22. Ayrton Senna (88, 90, 91)

    25.2%
  23. Nigel Mansell (92)

    1.0%
  24. Michael Schumacher (94, 95, 00, 01, 02, 03. 04)

    34.3%
  25. Damon Hill (96)

    0.1%
  26. Jacques Villeneuve (97)

    0.4%
  27. Mika Häkkinen (98, 99)

    1.9%
  28. Fernando Alonso (05, 06)

    4.5%
  29. Kimi Räikkönen (07)

    1.6%
  30. Lewis Hamilton (08, 14, 15)

    1.3%
  31. Jenson Button (09)

    0.4%
  32. Sebastian Vettel (10, 11, 12, 13)

    0.9%
  33. Nico Rosberg (16)

    0.3%
  1. Paul Jeffrey

    Paul Jeffrey
    Sim Racing News Editor Staff Member Premium Member

    F1 Champions.jpg
    With the most recent World Champion having decided to hang up his helmet at the end of his championship season, and former World Champion Jenson Button sitting out the new year in his role as McLaren Ambassador, we thought it was a good time to ask you guys who you think was the ultimate World Champion since Grand Prix racing became a thing all the way back in 1950.

    The goal of every young racing driver is no doubt to become a Formula One World Champion in their careers, but due to the difficult nature of the sport very few drivers have the opportunity to achieve that ambition. Those that do can rightly hold their head up high as one of the elite drivers of their generation. Securing a World Championship at Formula One level is the ultimate achievement, the pinnacle of an athlete’s career and a feeling that is no doubt unsurpassed in the sporting world.

    As the years have brought different and unique challenges to the drivers competing in Formula One competition, so the skill sets of those drivers have had to adapt. The very first World Champion Giuseppe Farina will have had to deal with the ever present threat of serious injury piloted his Alfa Romeo around often ridiculously dangerous venues in exotic locations around the world, against a backdrop of cavalier attitudes to safety of both drivers and spectators alike, utilizing just his brute strength and force of will to weave his reluctant machine around the tracks of the period.

    Compare this the environment faced just 33 years later by the tough Brazilian Nelson Piquet in his turbo Brabham BMW Grand Prix car, dealing with brutal horsepower delivered to his wide Goodyear slick tyres as the drivers of the era dealt with monumental power outputs, long turbo lag delays and undercarriage 'ground effect' cars that literally glued the car to the circuit to help achieve never before seen speeds in corners of circuits still deemed spectacularly unsafe by the standards of today. Couple this together with new frontiers of technology being pushed further forward with each passing race, occasionally to disastrous failures, and the arenas in which Piquet and Farina fought are very different, but equally difficult in different ways.

    Fast forward another 30 years and we now have what in effect are incredibly high tech, super precise and ultra-developed technical marvels that race each other up to 21 teams through the course of a year. Modern Formula One reaches out further around the world than it ever has, runs for longer than in the history of the sport and is the most professionally organized in its history of competition. Whereas Farina and to a lesser extent Piquet raced for themselves and their small team of enthusiastic engineers, today's drivers have to shoulder the burden of literally hundreds of millions of dollars investment and teams containing sometime 300 - 400 staff all working towards producing two cars on track for 21 races a year. With such colossal financial investment, and telemetry and TV coverage meaning a driver now has nowhere to hide on track or from his teammate, the challenge of modern day Grand Prix racing has evolved considerably from those early tentative years.

    The question is, in your opinion dear reader, which driver do you think overcame the hurdles of his era in the most impressive way, to be crowned your ultimate champion of champions?

    Does the pioneering bravery and sheer talent of a Fangio or Ascari outweigh the deftness of touch possessed by someone like Jim Clark, or does the sheer determination, drive and hunger of an Aryton Senna overcome the respect and skills displayed by Jacques Villeneuve to secure his title in just his second season of Grand Prix racing? Does the mechanically brilliant skills of Michael Schumacher mean more than Sebastian Vettel's four World Championships, and where does Lewis Hamilton rank amongst the all-time greats?

    It will be an interesting read to find out what you all think. I'll leave it open a couple of weeks or so and post the results towards the end of January.

    Think hard and vote wise!

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    If you have a burning desire to keep abreast of the latest Formula One news and chat while we await the season to gear up in earnest, get yourself over to the Formula One sub forum and join in the chat with your fellow F1 fans.

    Who did you vote for and why? Do you think anyone who didn't secure a World Championship should be crowned the ultimate Grand Prix champion? Let us know in the comments section below!
     
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  2. Paul Jeffrey

    Paul Jeffrey
    Sim Racing News Editor Staff Member Premium Member

    I've gone for Senna, but it was a close call between him, Fangio and Clark however :)

    I've picked Senna because of the almost instant impression he made on F1, his victory against some superb rivals and his sheer mastery of a car on the very edge of control.

    Really really hard choice though.
     
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  3. Dammit, Where's Gilles Villeneuve :( To bad he was never a f1 champion, but he was a champion to me :p
     
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  4. k_badam

    k_badam
    Yer Nan Premium Member

    Kimi/John Surtees/Jim Clark
     
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  5. Andrew

    Andrew
    Staff Member Premium Member

    I've gone for Fangio. No fancy electronic gimmicks in the cars he has driven. Just pure Power. I don't think the *modern drivers* could race those cars like he did. ;)
     
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  6. ouvert

    ouvert
    Premium Member

    I pick Flying Scot .. was about to choose Fangio but for Stewarts investment in bringing safety to this sport I pick him. He also seems to be cool dude ...
     
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  7. Rodent

    Rodent
    Premium Member

    Schumi for me, but a very close second to Jack Brabham, far as I know still the only driver to win the DC with his own car/team.
     
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  8. Tedd60ga

    Tedd60ga
    Premium Member

    Prost ... with Senna second. Stewart recently said that Prost was the best he ever saw.

    Gilles Villeneuve was probably the most daring. His passes were amazing. If he had more time, he would be higher on the list.

    Moss is the greatest that never won a championship.
     
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  9. Lazarou

    Lazarou
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    Too many great drivers depending on the era. Ayrton for me as my first memory of motorsport is watching the Monaco GP in 86, the Lotus 98T with Senna in his distinctive yellow helmet, then trying to re create the circuit with lego bricks. Happy days!
     
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  10. Easy pick: Schumi.
     
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  11. Tim.E

    Tim.E
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    Finally, I've been waiting for such a discussion like this for a long time. Great idea @Paul Jeffrey :thumbsup:

    For me it has to be Piquet, Prost or Senna. Look at the era that these guys drove in, cars that were very difficult to handle and also such a tough and competitive field. The 1986 season had 3 different drivers including Nigel Mansell who fought for the championship. Also not to forget Senna in the Lotus, Keke Rosberg and even Elio de Angelis and Gerhard Berger in that period.
     
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  12. Fangio, Clark, Senna, Schumacher, Lauda, Stewart... So many great names and only one vote?
    With heavy heart - Jim Clark.
    Why? Because he was a demi-God behind the wheel, like Beltoise said.
     
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  13. Gringo

    Gringo
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  14. kedy89

    kedy89
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    Jim Clark.
     
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  15. Ι was between Stewart and Lauda. Stewart did so much for the sport even when he retired. But my vote goes to Niki, only because of his courage to come back after 1976 and with so much success.
     
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  16. For me it's a really close call between Fangio, Clark and Senna. Really difficult to choose but I will stay with Senna.
     
  17. Very hard to compare the champions, too much technological gap between cars!
    Or then by slice of 5 years

    I vote Shumi but, fight Prost/Senna Ultimate F1 :)
     
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  18. samcar304

    samcar304
    Sam Carmichael Staff Member

    My favorite historical drivers are Lauda and Clark, Two awesome drivers but also very grounded outside the car. And both had good sportsmanship.

    Also John Surtees i feel gets overlooked... He is the only person to win the F1 championship and be a "Moto GP" world champion. No one will ever do that again.
     
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  19. Flammenjc

    Flammenjc
    Nitor Velox Gaming Premium Member

    I respectfully, disagree. I think in Fangios day, the majority of the grid were just amateur playboys. In the modern day the majority of the field are there on merit. The cars were more difficult to drive generally in Fangios day, but driving at the limit is the same, the only difference being, in the modern age being good at driving at the limit is what gets you success, in those days all you needed was the balls to do it, as not many did.
     
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  20. Matheus Machado

    Matheus Machado
    Talking Door Racing Premium Member

    It is very hard to pick a driver as the cars performance has been the starting point for a championship since F1 started. Whether it was reliability or pace (or a combination of both in today's F1), if a very good driver didn't have the right weapon they never had the chance to fight for it all if their equipment wasn't up to standards.

    Also, I might get bashed for saying this:D: I don't think any of the historic drivers are better because they handled "more difficult" cars. Even though the cars were less predictable overall driving a F1 car at the limit is never easy, if anyone tries driving fast the SF-15T or F138 in AC while doing all the management that comes along with these cars, you will get my point: F1 cars are hard to drive. Any of those drivers would do well on any era.

    Also I'm not even considering the amount of work into physical preparation and media/press managing skills today's drivers must have.

    That being said I would call a close draw between Alonso, Lauda and Senna (Clark I don't know that much to affirm him on the aspect). They all were protagonists through different eras and driving on teams with various levels of performsnces.

    My final call would be Alonso, as he could perform well through 4 (maybe 5) different eras of F1, and that for me is what separates him from the others.
     
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