Mr Latte
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Continued Testing
Already plenty of people are using these pedals for ABS so I decided to try something different for evaluating the units output. Back with ACC and using "Gear Change" and "Road Vibrations" as two effects I thought, may suit the punch character of this unit.
Tried each effect individually and then together.
Simagic HPR / Ratings 1-5
These are scores based on notes taken at the time of testing I gave just by general feel for the following:
10Hz = 3
Solid with decent energy but a lifeless feel to its thud
20Hz = 3
Quite strong, less dead but still quite direct/narrow in feel
30Hz = 5
Good strength but also with a broader sense of feeling, excellent
40Hz = 4
A little less strong in depth but appeared to offer more character in the general feel
50Hz = 3
Limited in energy and detail, okay but other frequencies seemed more enjoyable
Simhub Effects & Used Frequencies
How different effects use/generate sensations may vary, but they are not limited just to the "input values" for frequencies we place. Below I show an example of this as some may think that if you input 40Hz then only 40Hz gets generated or is all that will be felt.
*This may be different when using motors and one reason I feel the sensations are quite narrow in feel to what I am used too.
Early Summary
While not fully conclusive test for me, yet...
So far, at least for me with these effects tried the @30-40Hz range is offering the most fun/detail. Maybe a few Hz either side of that would be what other people like. Or maybe they use lower frequencies for that dead punch to suit their own preferences. Mostly expect the common usage of ABS etc we see people (I assume) primarily buying this product for?
Important Factor
As an experienced tactile enthusiast. I REALLY do not like the limitation of having to use a fixed frequency for all the effects on a specific unit. The reason for this will become ever more apparent when I release the batch of effects for this test I am working on.
One of the things I look to try to bring is differences in feel/operation of the various effects. When you seek to do that then you also discover how different frequencies can be applied to perhaps suit better different types of effects.
I was the first I know of, to try and also expand on that with multi-layering specific values in frequencies focused around the operation of octaves. It is a much more natural way to apply frequencies and I believe brings benefits to how good or satisfying we can make some effects feel.
Simhub & Haptic Controller Usage
Simhub having compatibility with HPR is great to see by making it possible to apply lots of effects to the HPR. However if this factor remains with fixed frequencies then when the HYPE for the HPR dies down.
Okay in fairness, yes beyond it bringing simplified installation and connection, I have to question how good of an option to install it really may be compared to the best exciter?
Some people may be happy just with ABS/GEAR or limited effects but I think they say that because they run into the same limitation of trying to get multiple effects feel good with a fixed frequency. Volume changes is not enough and even a pedal set or base with 3x HPR while that allows 3x different fixed frequencies, the effects are still limited to only applying a single frequency.
Yet To Come
So much better is possible in detail in felt character for effects and perhaps this is why I am struggling more to enjoy the HPR with a static frequency.
Now, here we are in a thread that gains over 3000 views in a short period and not one single owner of the HPR has shared their experiences/preferences in frequencies with any effects. Your welcome if you want and even if you disagree with my own input.
Anyways, next up will be the summary for the BDS unit with the same tests as above..
Already plenty of people are using these pedals for ABS so I decided to try something different for evaluating the units output. Back with ACC and using "Gear Change" and "Road Vibrations" as two effects I thought, may suit the punch character of this unit.
Tried each effect individually and then together.
Simagic HPR / Ratings 1-5
These are scores based on notes taken at the time of testing I gave just by general feel for the following:
10Hz = 3
Solid with decent energy but a lifeless feel to its thud
20Hz = 3
Quite strong, less dead but still quite direct/narrow in feel
30Hz = 5
Good strength but also with a broader sense of feeling, excellent
40Hz = 4
A little less strong in depth but appeared to offer more character in the general feel
50Hz = 3
Limited in energy and detail, okay but other frequencies seemed more enjoyable
Simhub Effects & Used Frequencies
How different effects use/generate sensations may vary, but they are not limited just to the "input values" for frequencies we place. Below I show an example of this as some may think that if you input 40Hz then only 40Hz gets generated or is all that will be felt.
*This may be different when using motors and one reason I feel the sensations are quite narrow in feel to what I am used too.
Early Summary
While not fully conclusive test for me, yet...
So far, at least for me with these effects tried the @30-40Hz range is offering the most fun/detail. Maybe a few Hz either side of that would be what other people like. Or maybe they use lower frequencies for that dead punch to suit their own preferences. Mostly expect the common usage of ABS etc we see people (I assume) primarily buying this product for?
Important Factor
As an experienced tactile enthusiast. I REALLY do not like the limitation of having to use a fixed frequency for all the effects on a specific unit. The reason for this will become ever more apparent when I release the batch of effects for this test I am working on.
One of the things I look to try to bring is differences in feel/operation of the various effects. When you seek to do that then you also discover how different frequencies can be applied to perhaps suit better different types of effects.
I was the first I know of, to try and also expand on that with multi-layering specific values in frequencies focused around the operation of octaves. It is a much more natural way to apply frequencies and I believe brings benefits to how good or satisfying we can make some effects feel.
Simhub & Haptic Controller Usage
Simhub having compatibility with HPR is great to see by making it possible to apply lots of effects to the HPR. However if this factor remains with fixed frequencies then when the HYPE for the HPR dies down.
Okay in fairness, yes beyond it bringing simplified installation and connection, I have to question how good of an option to install it really may be compared to the best exciter?
Some people may be happy just with ABS/GEAR or limited effects but I think they say that because they run into the same limitation of trying to get multiple effects feel good with a fixed frequency. Volume changes is not enough and even a pedal set or base with 3x HPR while that allows 3x different fixed frequencies, the effects are still limited to only applying a single frequency.
Yet To Come
So much better is possible in detail in felt character for effects and perhaps this is why I am struggling more to enjoy the HPR with a static frequency.
Now, here we are in a thread that gains over 3000 views in a short period and not one single owner of the HPR has shared their experiences/preferences in frequencies with any effects. Your welcome if you want and even if you disagree with my own input.
Anyways, next up will be the summary for the BDS unit with the same tests as above..
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