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Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Bethonie Waring, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. Bethonie Waring

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    traditional european.jpg Formula One is moving to new and… “exciting” venues almost every season now in areas like the Middle East, whilst traditional Western European races have struggled. The German GP is the most recent victim of F1’s move to new destinations, but Liberty are keen to stop the trend.

    Whilst there have been talks about bringing F1 to new venues – including more American races – Liberty want the more traditional circuits like Silverstone and the Hockenheimring to stay on the calendar.

    “There are always tracks that go in and out,” said Liberty President and CEO Greg Maffei. “It is most negative when you have some of our traditional Western European tracks which are at the heart of the fan base, like in Germany, go out.

    “But there’s already progress to bring them back, and if you recall we added the Ricard track in France, another place where we’ve been gone for some years.

    “The origin of F1 is in France and England, so we’re big believers in making sure places like Silverstone and the French track and the German are on the race calendars and are exciting events, which are beneficial to all players.”

    We will see the return of Paul Ricard in 2018, and Liberty hope a German GP will be on the calendar next season too, but nothing is certain.

    Getting people through the door to European races doesn’t really seem to be the problem, but the tracks don’t earn enough money to make hosting the event a viable option for some, including Silverstone.

    BRDC chairman John Grant said in a letter to members at the end of last year:

    “Although, even in a good year, the BGP does not generate enough cash to cover its share of the site overheads, our major concern has always been the risk of a bad year. We see the arrival of Liberty Media as having the potential to bring changes which could enhance F1 in a number of ways and, over time, could maybe lead to a more equitable balance for promoters such as ourselves.”

    Liberty want to make F1 races an “event”. That might not mean bringing something totally new to races, though. Maffei believes traditional circuits can learn from the successes of new venues and implement the “best practices”.

    “One of the things we need to do is make the races more compelling and exciting, and more beneficial to promoters,” he said.

    “Take best practices, what worked in exciting races like Mexico City, like Singapore, like Abu Dhabi, bring those best practices across the globe to traditional tracks, which may not have had either as much financial capability, but also just don’t have as exciting a product at the moment.”

    For more Formula One news and discussions head over to the RaceDepartment Formula One sub forum and join in with your fellow community members.

    Do you think traditional races need to learn to be exciting from the newer venues? How do you think circuits can make their products more exciting? Let us know in the comments below!
     
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  2. Sky

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    the brdc need to strike oil in one of the gravel traps.
     
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  3. ThatRacingGuy

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    Okay,

    1st more media freedom.
    2nd keeping EU tracks

    I'm starting to have faith in this whole take over
     
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  4. Blimey

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    They need to change Silverstone's layout or look for a new track, let the owners of Nordschleife finally start working on making the track safer so they can hope for a future F1 GP there.
     
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  5. sKeno

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    f1 hasn't raced there for 40 years, why should they race there in the future?

    making the nordschleife safer for f1 would completely ruin the character of the track.
     
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  6. Sky

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    plus most of what happened to silverstone is f1s fault

    And donington was nearly ruined for f1.
     
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  7. ltcars

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    The Nordschleife was canceled because over the race the field would spread out making not very interesting races
     
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  8. Thomas Lambaerts

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    I totally agree. Liberty is looking at the long term. Unlike Bernie and CDC(i think?), Who were just looking at the yearly profits they could make themselves.
     
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  9. Troy Barman

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    That would be the worst and most boring race anyone will have ever watched. A whole 20-22 cars spread over 14 miles plus spectators would barely see anything.
     
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  10. Blimey

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    Oh so you're saying F1 is not booring? Stop it..
     
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  11. kondor999

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    Thank God. It was only a matter of time before we lost Silverstone and Spa in favor of the Grand Prix du Pyongyang.

    The heart of F1 should always lie among the great historic circuits that conjure up memories of famous on-track battles between the superheroes of the sport.

    I recently told my wife there was no GP in France or Germany and she (who knows next to nothing about F1) was stunned. She happens to be Russian. I'm American. Neither one of us wants a GP in Russia or America when there's no GP in Germany or France.

    That is just wrong.
     
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  12. Riblo

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    Totally agree...
    F1 was born in Europe and must remain mostly in european tracks...
    Spa, Monza, Imola, Hockenheim, Nurburgring, Silverstone, Paul Ricard, Magny Cours, these are the tracks that made F1 as we know it...
     
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  13. Azure Flare

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    Well, as an American, I want there to be a Grand Prix here. F1 may not be the biggest thing here, but F1 is a WORLD championship after all...
     
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  14. Dirk Steffen

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    It is unfathomable to me that in a sport where the largest amounts of money are turned over it is happening that the very stadiums the sport is living from are neglected and run dry to the point where venues are not able to financially sustain.

    More money from the sport needs to be flushed into the venues. Ticket prices alone just cannot cover the insanely high cost in upkeep and safety cost for a track to keep pace with F1 regulations.
    Raising ticket prices further (which are already among the highest in sports) has hardly any effect to the budget of the tracks (it's just one venue a year after all with fans barely cracking the 200.000 mark) but cuts deep into the very hands of the people who are feeding the sport, the fans.

    That the venues which MADE the sport are kept on the calendar is not an option or a bonus, IT IS ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY!
    Formula One is born in Europe and the very most important tracks are the venues where F1 always has been racing.

    It is like taking the Paris - Dakar to another place entirely … uh wait …
     
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    What's wrong with the current layout?
     
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    lol
     
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  17. Ben Lee

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    There will be zero incentive for Silverstone to lower the ticket prices when they sell out year after year anyway. I last went in 2005 when it was something like £90 for Fri-Sat-Sun. I refuse to pay £160 for the same thing now.
     
  18. Bethonie Waring

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    £160??? When I last went (2015) it was £200 for all three days
     
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    People say F1 is expensive to actually go but relatively speaking it's not when you consider a Premier League football match cost over £75 for a 90 minute match that's no practice, qualifying, parking, travel ....

    Well you get the idea other sports aren't a whole lot different it's not the just the cost it's also need for accomodation and other add on's even for a home Grand Prix where as most other sports you can have a day out or even an evening.

    But throw in travel to say Abu Dhabi, Singapore , or god help us Azerbaiijan and we are talking serious spondoolies (dosh) not to mention the fact who actually want's to pay for the priveledge of being bored watching a race that the most exciting thing is who is going to come third and below.

    The whole background and still the massive majority of race followers originate from Europe and the West in general actually in 2015 the biggest attendance was 330,000 at the Mexico Grand Prix where as Baku an optimistic 30,000 need I say more.

    The British GP has overall been the biggest attendance over the last decade so sort of confirms the same argument really how they consider not having a German GP is beyond comprehension.

    OK let's not kid ourselves here F1 is all about money not entertainment hence the so-so but very flashy looking race courses in the middle and far east look amazing feats of engineering but it's more a hotel complex with a race track where as it should be a race track providing some where to watch the race and additional accomodation. I expect more thought went in to the yachting marina than the race track at some venues.

    But in terms of racing these super elite designs are about as thrilling as watching a race between two rain drops down a window.

    Quite simply as of late Bernie's idea of bringing the races to the masses entertainment probably wasn't highest on his agenda and the locations had more to do with his ultra large divorce settlement and declining years than furthering the sports future longer term.

    Will Liberty look at things a different we have to wait and see surely they have to our they will be fighting a losing battle, possibly one big step is reduce the monopoly of televised content to those with the deepest pockets.

    However we must not forget Liberty are tied and presumeably party to most of the recent deals with the likes of Sky and other media groups worldwide. They are after all a media company themselves.

    The way forward has to be make the actual viewing of the races more user friendly to the mass audience may be streaming online with delays might be one option round the TV content issues and surely with most of us glued to our cell phones this is one way of building a massive following but only if the excitement is brought back first.

    Years ago avid F1 fans would be sitting up half the night to watch live racing from which ever shore the race was happening but I expect most of Europe will still be soundly asleep when the Melbourne GP starts in a few days time.

    The advent of pay or don't watch TV and the general lack of excitement on the track has dumbed down all but the very die hard fans surely some one has to work out it's not trip advisor or a chance for the lastest movie stars to be seen but a race event.
     
  20. Blimey

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    I hate the first 4 corners. But that's just my opinion.