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Driving/Racing learning resources

Discussion in 'RACE 07 - Official WTCC Game' started by Jarrod Keen, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. Hey guys, had an idea. Thought I'd create a thread where we can post good links or resources for us to learn and improve. I love to read, learn and strategize about racing... here's where we can focus some of that effort. Here are a few links that are handy.

    Best book:The best resource that I've found is this [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Secrets-II-Professional-Techniques/dp/0760315108"]http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Secrets-II- ... 0760315108[/ame]

    Ross Bentley's Speed Secrets 2.
     
  2. This one was for GTR2 so it doesn't apply exactly to evo but many of the principles are the same:


    Guys, I thought we would all benefit from a thread that discussed the different things that you do to set up your car for a race. So, what are the first things you look at when setting up a car.... Make sure you're in a sharing mood before you read this because you'll be asked to share your innermost secrets on your setups....

    Obvious things that everyone probably works on are the following:

    This is a link (you don't have to go to the link as I copied and pasted below [ame="http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=324681"]http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=324681[/ame] ) to a forum at RSC where they discuss setups...


    First of all, in my opinion there is no such thing as a perfect setup, and you can´t just pick a setup that someone else has made, and expect to go just as quick as the owner.
    You have to tweak it to suit your drivingstyle in order to feel comfortable with the car. Some drivers like a little oversteer to be able to slide the rear to make the nose point in the desired direction, where others like a more smooth approach to the corner.
    It´s all down to how you drive the car and make a setup that you are comfortable with.

    So how do we go about setting the car up from scratch ?

    Well first, adjust fuel amount to match the race distance, in order to not carry unnecessary weight.
    For qualifying you should obviously only carry a few laps.

    Adjust the gearing so that the top gear almost hits the revlimiter on the fastest straight/part of the track, leaving just a little bit extra rpms available for extra speed when slipstreaming.
    Set the lowest gear to match the slowest corner on track ( usually 1st or 2nd depending on the track....
    if there are no tight corners you naturally only use the lower gears for accelerating from start ).
    Even out the gears in between.

    adjust the wing as low as possible, to the point where the rearend of the car does not slip away in the fast corners.
    The splitter only have 2 settings, 1 and 2, almost always set it to 2, unless it´s a very fast track like Monza or Enna,
    where the frontend grip is less important than straightline speed.

    Set the engine cooling ducts so that the engine temp reaches around 90 degrees c, as this is where the angine works best.
    If you have lower temperature the oil wont reach it´s optimum worktemp, and the oil is too thick generating too much resistance,
    and you will experience loss of power and lubrication. The result is increased enginewear.
    The hotter the oil the thinner it becomes, and the less resistance it generates. This will give you an increase in power.
    If it gets too thin it wont give the optimum lubrication, resulting in increased enginewear.
    If the enginetemperature gets too hot the water will reach it´s boilingpoint, resulting in loss of cooling and eventually
    destruction.

    The brakes works best at 450 c. Therefore set the brakeduct so that it reaches approximately 350 - 400 c, just prior to braking
    If the brakes does not get hot enough you obviously won´t have max brakingpower available, and the braking must begin earlier
    than necessary, than if the temp was just right.
    If the brakes get too hot they will fade. Usually first on the frontwheels. If the front gets too hot the rear will have to
    do most of the braking. This is unfortunate as the stoppingpower drops dramatically, and there´s a good chance that the wheels will lock up, making the rearend loose.

    END OF ARTICLE

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    Some of these issues are taken care of in most of our default setups or are obvious such as fuel, radiator opening (3 for me), break duct (2 for me)....

    Things that I want to focus on are the fine tuning things beyond these..... They discuss wing above and I'll bring that back into the discussion.... others like shocks, springs and tire pressure, camber, toe in/out.

    I am a racer that likes a more smooth cornering experience... i don't like the tail end loose at all!!! SO....

    Some of the first thing that I adjust on a setup are: I take the power to 10, coast to 10, the diff to 1. I take the rear toe to around .4 and the front toe to neg .2ish... that is standard for me. Those settings are my base and then I'll start looking at Wing. If I'm getting great handling then I'll lower the wing until I get too loose in a fast turn. I've not gotten the Anti roll bar values figured out yet as I do a good bit of testing on them but I do feel that the higher the number on the rear arb the more understeer I get in the car.. which you must find the happy medium between understeer and oversteer.

    The other things like shocks and springs, tire pressure, camber and caster are still very much outside my comfort zone.... I have the cheat sheets to figure out and troubleshoot.... I'd especially love to know if any of you have standard settings on those things listed above that work for you.

    But if you have a standard, goto setup that you automatically load in and then tweek ... or tweek after testing.... if you don't mind.... share it with us. We'll all be better for it!!! If someone is the same style driver as me.... then you'll love the first steps to my setup process.
     
  3. This was taken from a site that I was a member of last year called JCRacing.net. It's closed now but I can still access the old forum so I thought I should grab some of the good info before it's gone.


    Hey guys. As many of you know, I read a lot of sites that are relating to racing (getting faster) and especially GTR2. There's one site (racesimcentral) that is rather mature as it's been in existence for several years and has lots of older content but it doesn't have a lot of daily activity anymore. It does have a lot of very useful info. One cool thing they do at racesimcentral is what's called the average joe's challenge where they name a track and a car and all skill levels are welcome to attempt... The idea is to try to get your best time possible and then to discuss amongst the group and even upload laps for critique. This process helps guys get faster, helps guys work on and better understand setups.... learn lines... learn about new cars... etc.

    Example, they say, average joes challenge: Donnington in a Lambo. And guys will work on and try to get their best times.... those that struggle upload a lap so that the fast guys can view and help out the slower ones to get faster. I know that we dirve with each other so much here... that we essentially are doing a lot of this on a daily basis. The thing that I thought we could get out of this is to read the link below....

    This ([ame="http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3844508#post3844508"]http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthr ... ost3844508[/ame]) is a link to a thread where they are actually discussing LESSONS LEARNED FROM ALL OF THE AVERAGE JOE CHALLENGES. Read this thread all the way thru down to the last post.... you get great info from the first guy but there are 2 or 3 other contributors that also have great perspectives.

    They also reference a book called Speed Secrets (which I HIGHLY recommend). I have speed secrets 1, 2 and 5 which are great. One and two are must reads for anyone that loves to read about racing and learning how to drive faster.

    Enjoy and I hope it's okay with our admins to post links and references to other sites like this. If not just delete. Thx.
     
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  5. Thanks for the links guys. I finally got the casters effect in my head. It's so simple, how come i didn't thought it that way..