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Discussion in 'Motorsports' started by Paul Jeffrey, Nov 17, 2017.
Still better driver than anyone here........
Brittany Force is the exception. There are always exceptions. Especially when they get help from Daddy.
Danica Patrick is the rule.
Thank goodness then that dad is not prejudice like most males ?
Yep. That's absolutely the only explanation.
Being fast isn't why Danica Patrick is a driver now, that's business calculations that keeping coming back in black every year and not red. If you could get 5-15% more women to come to races than before, is it worth to keep her on contract? And sponsors, suddenly a whole new market chance pops up and what do the shareholders think of that? Of course she gets a Penske, she just didn't earn it from her brilliance on track.
Try to see the big picture regardless of what you feel about this, anything else might come across as naive or sexistic and in these times they crush you for it. Ask Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey.....
If you ask me, the biggest shame is that she wasn't better than she was. Bringing women in can only be good for the sport in every way except increased average lap times on the racing population as a whole
ps, that last assumption is absolutely based on the fact that they are coming as adults to start their careers and not like Lewis Hamilton or any other F1 star, whose dad did double shifts so the boy could pursue his dreams. Now that is true sacrifice...
lol....Well here in the south of GA, when someone tells you "Well Bless Your Heart" It's an insult. I'm sure you were being sarcastic......no?
Mostly when Female drivers quits, another "challenge" hits, ..to be a mom.
Yeah she's 35, so that clock is ticking.
Nope not being sarcastic at all. Just because it means an insult in your limited part of the country, that doesn't mean it's like that everywhere else. I've lived in Alabama, Georgia and Florida. Let's just say, to put it nicely, there are some interesting traditions and people in the south.
Amy Ruman too, and whilst we're there, can we discuss Michele Mouton? Ya know, the lady who drove Group B cars and left rallying when they switched to Group A because it wasn't hardcore enough?
There were plenty of decent female racing and rally drivers over the years
It just so happens that most of the ones around in recent years have been very average and would not have got as far nib the talent they had if they were men.
Well, I am not from Atlanta Ga myself. I'm originally from New York City, Bronx NY. Been down here in the south since 2000 from a job transfer, (now retired) and that's what these local yokels here warned me about if someone said to me "Bless Your Little Heart" as an insult....Hey, these folks are bread and born here in Atlanta Ga... So I take their word for it!..lol
'Especially when they get help from Daddy'? You implying that male drivers don't get family assistance?
I'm really not sure what this comment means, as a parent myself i can't imagine not having a vested interest in giving my daughter the absolute chance in becoming anything she wants to be.
We all know the story about Lewis' dad working two jobs or extra shifts to pay for his sons' early career in racing.
And then on the other side of the spectrum are drivers like Maldonado and Stroll...
Doesn't matter, rich or poor, any Father worthy of the title would do anything he can for his kids career.
Sorry for the rant...
And so the vitriol in this thread is why I respect her even more, and am glad, for her sake, she stayed stateside. After all, look what happened to Michael Andretti. Danica, unlike 90% of F1 these days, had to fight for every scrap...and also fight true misogyny (not the fake kind like is taught in Universities these days).
I've met Danica face to face, and spoken with her. The great irony of all this, is that, in person, "beauty" or whatever your definition of it is, didn't come to mind (although it did with another female driver I met why really did have all looks and no talent...and boy did she have looks...lol). She's about 4'11" and very hard looking, but, just like any other competitive IndyCar driver, extremely driven, extremely ambitious, and extremely good, in most anything on four wheels. Her great advantage was that she looked great on camera. lol. Usually that means you don't look good in person. Whatever.
The fact is, IndyCar and IndyCar alone has been the most inclusive, and the most color-blind of all the world's racing groups. Danica was just another rung in that long tradition. They are not pampered elitists, like you find in F1.
She was just a kid when I talked to her, and she was trying to break her habit of saying "you know" after every sentence. She eventually did. Her Dad, known for pushing her, and her Mom, known for marketing her, made a good combination. She was 100% muscle, so her lightness and "pounds per inch" were a massive advantage. Drivers take what they can get, and in IndyCar, picking a light driver was rewarded. For those "experts" who insist she just can't cut it, I'd say the opposite. She is part of an elite few who can step into a stock car, an IndyCar, or whatever F1 calls a car these days, and run against anyone at any track, including those tracks that many drivers say are "too dangerous" for their wealthy lifestyle.
IndyCar and NASCAR are the most dangerous racing series' out there, and she tackled them both as if it was nothing. Many drivers fail to ever win any IndyCar race. Many drivers never get past year one in NASCAR. Many drivers never get to either, let alone run them both for about a decade. That puts her in the same class (but not quite) with JPM. She could have easily won more ovals, and easily won more in a faster car...like all drivers, including Fernando Alonso.
Those that know her, and racing best, say it best...
"She's always had a smooth driving style, and Indianapolis is a place that suits her very well," he said. "She's always been smooth and fast, [but] I do think today's world is a lot more competitive world than when she was there. To run at the top is a hard thing to do. It has gotten significantly harder than the early days when I was doing it.
"If you can finish in the top 15, you're doing a good job, so I think she's going to find that a little bit more of a challenge. I'm excited for her. I'm eager to see how she does. Selfishly, I'm happy for her, and happy that Indy will be her last [race]. Indy, at the core of it, is who she is. I'm excited to see her back home."
-- Graham Rahal
Strange. Never heard that about Fernando. Clearly he's washed up too.
I didn't know Fernando could give birth? Pay attention now. Look at the original comment you disagreed with.
You forgotten the best of them all: Sabine Schmitz