Belgian GP Debrief: Rosberg Cruises as Mayhem Ensues at Spa

[[DNA] Rico Nosberg]

@andy 'Mars Bar
Cool long story bro, but you better stick to simracing ;-)

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

@andy 'Mars Bar
Cool long story bro, but you better stick to simracing ;-)

Which is a cool story, the fact Max is a reckless idiot, Maldonado had talent before he slumped into a state of crashing, or the fact Red Bull are better than Ferrari?

 

[Milos]

He got away with it, probably will learn from it - time to move on.

he won't learn from it unfortunately. As long as the FIA don't penalise him, he will think he's doing nothing wrong.
And if you don't believe me, he said it himself!

 

[Nox]

he won't learn from it unfortunately. As long as the FIA don't penalise him, he will think he's doing nothing wrong.
And if you don't believe me, he said it himself!

Exactly. The only thing he learned from Hungary and Spa is that he can get away with it

 

[Tal]

And what did we say in Monaco and Hungary? "He will learn and grow out of it".
Doesn't seem like he learned a whole lot.

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

Interesting line there Max

 

[RichardHessels]

Ah it's Max bashing time. Let all jump the wagon.
Only drivers that had serious injuries last decades were freak accidents.
Raikkonen is an old guy who nags about everything.
If the stewards (proffesionals) are ok with his behavior who are we to have "better" opinion.

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

Ah it's Max bashing time. Let all jump the wagon.

The guy deserves the bashing, don't put this down to bandwagon hate

Only drivers that had serious injuries last decades were freak accidents.

True, but who's to say that dangerous driving can't cause an injury?

Raikkonen is an old guy who nags about everything.

Raikkonen also is very experienced in motorsport, so he knows what's right and wrong. His experience avoided a huge incident at 200+ mph (330+ kph) which Max nearly caused

If the stewards (proffesionals) are ok with his behavior who are we to have "better" opinion.

That's because we do actually have a better opinion in this case. The stewards are completely wrong not to penalise him here. Let's go back to the picture I posted earlier to see one of the rule breaches.

As you can see, we are at a corner, however Max is not turning into the corner at all. He hasn't even attempted to turn in. He is, quite clearly, forcing another driver off the road.

Now, it's not like he was doing this to everyone;

So, basically, Max is a hot head who is dangerous due to ****ing anger issues, which is a very deadly combination on track. Try defending him now!

 

[paracletus]

he won't learn from it unfortunately. As long as the FIA don't penalise him, he will think he's doing nothing wrong

Well, as vettel said in his post-race interview, he's not a fan of handing out penalties for everything -- but he said that they (the drivers) will talk about these incidents. If MV has any sense he will listen (and learn) to what vettel, raikonnen & the others have to say about it.
tl;dr -
Not worth dwelling on it anymore imo -- great Monza is on saturday

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

he's not a fan of handing out penalties for everything

Yeah but Max's defence should be penalised. Not penalising him is going to create more problems

If MV has any sense he will listen (and learn) to what vettel and raikonnen have to say.

Nah, he doesn't have much sense. Remember he has never admitted he has done wrong when racing dirty with other drivers

 

[[DNA] Rico Nosberg]

Which is a cool story, the fact Max is a reckless idiot, Maldonado had talent before he slumped into a state of crashing, or the fact Red Bull are better than Ferrari?

The fact non of the stewards even investigated it should say enough

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

The fact non of the stewards even investigated it should say enough

Do I really need to post the picture of Max forcing someone off the track AGAIN

Also, the stewards aren't always right. They have made very questionable decisions over the years

 

[Yapci]

 

[Milos]

If the stewards (proffesionals) are ok with his behavior who are we to have "better" opinion.

The fact non of the stewards even investigated it should say enough

whenever someone puts up legitimate stewarding into the argument I literally feel like jumping out of my window

 

[Glaurung]

First Kvyat, then Verstappen...that second Red Bull gives you wings but shut down brains
Jokes apart, the first responsibles are the stewards that have tolerated and are tolerating Verstappen's moves.
Are they the same stewards that sanctioned Rosberg for his collision with Hamilton in Austria?

 

[nangu]

First Kvyat, then Verstappen...that second Red Bull gives you wings but shut down brains
Jokes apart, the first responsibles are the stewards that have tolerated and are tolerating Verstappen's moves.
Are they the same stewards that sanctioned Rosberg for his collision with Hamilton in Austria?

Yeah, and the same stewards who sanctioned Rosberg's move againts "Mad" Max in Germany also.

I totally agree. It's time the stewards begin to penalize with the same ruleset and not by the driver's name.

The pictures and video posted here are a clear evidence that the stewards are biased. And "Mad Crash" Max seems to not be learning from anything at all, so this biased stewarding doesn't help him to evolve and learn from his previous mistakes, and dangerous/illegal moves against others drivers.

Lets see what happens next.

 

[Melonade]

Because the FIA have not given him penalty's he will never change. He has sometimes been really good, for example, Spain, he acted very mature there because everything went his way. But at Spa because he got off to a bad start he immediately dived down the inside and ruined his race, this made him angry and this proves that he is not capable of being one of the best F1 drivers.

 

[Andy 'Mars Bar' Graham]

Because the FIA have not given him penalty's he will never change. He has sometimes been really good, for example, Spain, he acted very mature there because everything went his way. But at Spa because he got off to a bad start he immediately dived down the inside and ruined his race, this made him angry and this proves that he is not capable of being one of the best F1 drivers.

Max has a history of anger problems. Remember Australia when he was stuck behind Sainz

 

[Melonade]

Max has a history of anger problems. Remember Australia when he was stuck behind Sainz

Yes I remember and then he caught backup to Sainz and the commentator says about how fast he is.

 

[Johnny Russian]

interesting everyone saying that Verstappen is making suicide moves, thinks F1 is a video game, can't drive properly, and especially the guy saying Schumacher would have never made moves like Verstappen.

because, um, well .....
http://wtf1.co.uk/verstappen-vs-schumacher/