Motorsport Games: BTCC Game Canceled - IndyCar Game Staff Laid Off?

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The official BTCC game is canceled: TOCA, the rights holder to the popular British touring car series, has terminated the licensing agreement with Motorsport Games.

Image credit: Studio 397

Last updated: November 7th, 2023, 5.20pm CET


Even though sim racers had been looking forward to an official BTCC game, there had been serious doubts about it seeing the light of day. Initially announced for 2022, the game was most recently delayed to 2024. Now, it is officially canceled altogether, according to a TOCA statement.

The organizer of the BTCC chose to terminate the licensing agreement with Motorsport Games. This comes just a few days after news broke that MSG would reduce its workforce by 40%.

It is with regret that TOCA now advise that it has been forced to terminate that agreement forthwith, due to ongoing fundamental breaches of the agreement by Motorsport Games. Having been given sufficient latitude to rectify those contractual breaches, unfortunately Motorsport Games has failed to do so.
TOCA statement on canceling the BTCC licensing agreement with Motorsport Games

BTCC Game Canceled: “We share the frustration”​

Furthermore, TOCA argues that it made this decision “to protect the reputation and intellectual property of the BTCC, including those of its participants and partners.” The organization admits that “this news will come as a huge disappointment to our hundreds of thousands of fans, many of whom were eagerly anticipating the release of a new BTCC game… and we very much share that frustration, due to Motorsport Games being unable to fulfil its contractual commitments.

However, there is official BTCC content under the MSG roof. rFactor 2 has seen the introduction of cars and tracks step-by-step since the start of the agreement with TOCA in 2020. The sim now features the full grids of the 2021 to 2023 seasons. Additionally, most of the circuits on the calendar are there as well.


What’s next for IndyCar and Le Mans Ultimate?​

The BTCC license is not the first that is not under Motorsport Games’ roof anymore. Recently, the company sold its NASCAR license to iRacing. The company is going to produce a standalone game of the popular stock car series. IndyCar still has an agreement with MSG, although the open-wheel series game’s future is uncertain, too. Whether the series is next to pull the plug remains to be seen now that the BTCC game is canceled.

However, Mike Straw of Insider Gaming claims he has been told that the IndyCar game's staff has been laid off by MSG. This would likely mean that the title is not going to see the light of day either. Straw had reported that Motorsport Games could lose the NASCAR license as early as August - iRacing bought the license not even two months later.


The IndyCar game was scheduled for launch in 2024, and recently, a trailer had emerged. It would appear that the game was quite far along in development. Could another entity purchase all assets?

IndyCar themselves have not announced how they are going to handle the situation. Penske Entertainment (the owners of the series) CEO Mark Miles told racer.com that "we are in regular communication with Motorsport Games to get the information that we need to decide what’s best for us going forward." No decision has been reached yet, according to Miles.


As things stand, it appears that all of Motorsport Games’ eggs are in the baskets of rFactor 2 and the upcoming Le Mans Ultimate. rF2‘s player numbers have recently increased after the additon of a new competitive online system. WEC fans eagerly await LMU by the end of 2023.

What are your thoughts on the BTCC game being canceled? Let us know on Twitter @OverTake_gg or in the comments below!
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What iRacing does is their own responsibility. Noone is stopping them.
Thank you for posting a link to a news article that proves I am right.
You obviously didn’t read the article, (or are not very good at reading), but I will post a paragraph from the article you posted:

“Users will still be able to race the IR18 on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, however, they will not be able to do so in officially-sanctioned events like the iRacing Indy 500, one of the largest special events of the year.

Additionally, those who participate in privately run series will no longer be able to broadcast races that use the IR18, DW12, or IR-05 — effectively ending many popular private series that use IndyCar vehicles.”

Maybe you should inform yourself before making such comments?
 
Super Tourers were captivating cars, all that followed was not. BTCC has not enough pull nowadays when its races are not much above TCR stuff, and Alan Gow has always been known as a protective figure over the TOCA brand. After this fallout, I wouldn't expect for him to let any game studio to work on his stuff.

Indycar is the series with the most lukewarm leadership I've ever seen. So who knows if they will head back to iRacing before MSG finally goes bankrupt.

MSG is hedging bets on LMU being succesful. It may be, who knows. But if it does not, it will be the nail in the coffin, and I just hope rF2 and S397 don't get drowned in the process.
I'm sorry but btcc races are way more entertaining than any tcr series. Also the cars are quicker than tcr cars and a lot more advanced technology and engineering wise.
 
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Thank you for posting a link to a news article that proves I am right.
You obviously didn’t read the article, (or are not very good at reading), but I will post a paragraph from the article you posted:

“Users will still be able to race the IR18 on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, however, they will not be able to do so in officially-sanctioned events like the iRacing Indy 500, one of the largest special events of the year.

Additionally, those who participate in privately run series will no longer be able to broadcast races that use the IR18, DW12, or IR-05 — effectively ending many popular private series that use IndyCar vehicles.”

Maybe you should inform yourself before making such comments?

And MSG-employees on the rF2 Discord responded to questions like that, with comments of the type: "There is nothing in our deal that hinder them in using the cars and tracks and combination. Only the name usage."
 
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As mentioned in the press release, progress in the IndyCar is suspended.
Elsewhere I have read that NTT IndyCar are looking to make a decision on the game before the end of the year.
It COULD be that MSG are awaiting that decision and having talks with NTT IndyCar and don't wish to spend money on further development... athough the stories that the MSG IndyCar team have been dissolved would indicate otherwise.

The LMU (WEC) game is, I believe, a slightly deal with MSG and ACO being in partnership to produce the game so not just a licence deal.
In theory, the MSG/ACO business could use ANY platform for the game.
It's obviously going to be rF2 under the hood, but could be something else.
 
That does not make them interesting.
Current BTCC is way more interesting than any tcr series. Better racing. Better set of rules and race weekend layout. Much easier to understand fp1&2, qualifying on a Saturday then 3 races on a Sunday. Oh and they don't race on rubbish grand prix style tracks.
 
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And MSG-employees on the rF2 Discord responded to questions like that, with comments of the type: "There is nothing in our deal that hinder them in using the cars and tracks and combination. Only the name usage."
Easy to say that while hiding behind lawyers who have an history for attacking other developers, users and even reviewers like Niels Heusinkveld on his YT channel.
What did you expect them to say? "Oh yes we are bullying the whole community into shutting down any Indy related event as soon as any of the users mention the word Indy"?
 
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Thank you for posting a link to a news article that proves I am right.
You obviously didn’t read the article, (or are not very good at reading), but I will post a paragraph from the article you posted:

“Users will still be able to race the IR18 on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, however, they will not be able to do so in officially-sanctioned events like the iRacing Indy 500, one of the largest special events of the year.

Additionally, those who participate in privately run series will no longer be able to broadcast races that use the IR18, DW12, or IR-05 — effectively ending many popular private series that use IndyCar vehicles.”

Maybe you should inform yourself before making such comments?
I have a partly juristic background and I am confronted often enough with paragraphs and laws to know how to read, so thanks for your advice. As you are so good at reading you should know that there is a big difference between broadcasting and actually using a lisenced car on a lisenced track and you should know what exactly you are quoting. I am actually refering to the official part - aka the official statement from Indycar in the quotation marks. Funny enough you left out the important part of the quote wich just proves my point:

“iRacing will continue to provide a valuable platform for the gaming community to experience IndyCar. While there will be changes to our presence in the near future, our current car will still be featured on iRacing across current tracks, including the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This was important to us as we worked through our strategy to ensure fans would continue to access our racing across their favorite mediums,”

Now one could argue that the older models aren't mentioned, but this still doesn't prohibit their usage on current tracks. And at the end the part in the text that you are refering to is an interpretation of the writer wich is simply badly researched. Because as Ole allready confirmed, Indycar aswell as MSG are saying something else. Anyway, happy reading. ;)

@MadDriver11 Please stop for gods sake. This is so comical and tinfoil-hat-stylish, that I don't know where to start. Maybe just read the given information by the actual IP holders and lisencing partner before commenting on the topic.
 
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I have a partly juristic background and I am confronted often enough with paragraphs and laws to know how to read, so thanks for your advice. As you are so good at reading you should know that there is a big difference between broadcasting and actually using a lisenced car on a lisenced track and you should know what exactly you are quoting. I am actually refering to the official part - aka the official statement from Indycar in the quotation marks. Funny enough you left out the important part of the quote wich just proves my point:

“iRacing will continue to provide a valuable platform for the gaming community to experience IndyCar. While there will be changes to our presence in the near future, our current car will still be featured on iRacing across current tracks, including the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This was important to us as we worked through our strategy to ensure fans would continue to access our racing across their favorite mediums,”

Now one could argue that the older models aren't mentioned, but this still doesn't prohibit their usage on current tracks. And at the end the part in the text that you are refering to is an interpretation of the writer wich is simply badly researched. Because as Ole allready confirmed, Indycar aswell as MSG are saying something else. Anyway, happy reading. ;)

@MadDriver11 Please stop for gods sake. This is so comical and tinfoil-hat-stylish, that I don't know where to start. Maybe just read the given information by the actual IP holders and lisencing partner before commenting on the topic.
What everyone else mentioned was about the right to hold official events or even private events streamed by individual users without having to hide in the basement or being afraid to mention Indy on a stream. Which you keep ignoring because it doesn't fit your narrative.
Not only I read the information given officially by all parties but also the contract between IMS and MSG.
The facts are that iracing has been prevented from having their IR 18 run at Indycar real locations ever since and all events official and unofficial have been prevented. Other developers also have been prevented from accessing licenses for the content all the while MSG was delivering absolutely nothing. This is the core of the conversation.
The comical part is MSG/RF2 staff behavior really.
The rest is sugarcoated narrative that borders propaganda on your side and personal attacks.
 
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Current BTCC is way more interesting than any tcr series. Better racing. Better set of rules and race weekend layout. Much easier to understand fp1&2, qualifying on a Saturday then 3 races on a Sunday. Oh and they don't race on rubbish grand prix style tracks.
Never put it on equal footing with TCR. But in the big scheme of things, it's not much better. BTCC's international appeal died with Super Tourers, and what's left is a decent national series, with not enough pull for a standalone game anymore.
 
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tr1v1um, MadDriver11
Guys maybe just agree to disagree rather than keep going back and forth.
Hopefully the situation will become clearer and iRacing will be able to run indy races again.
 
I'd like to see this picked up by Straight4 tbh. GTRevival and BTCC in one package would make a helluva game.
 
I feel for the employees laid off because of management decisions and CEO greed.

MSG Australia who were apparently largely responsible for the development of the IndyCar game was shut down and all employees made redundant. KartKraft development will no doubt also cease (I note game is still available for purchase).

MSG is living on borrowed time - I hope LMU is a success and a complete experience & not a buggy mess and rF2 continues to live on. Looking at the financial data, there are no more licences to sell off to keep the lights on so good luck to the developers who remain loyal whilst managment line their pockets before their golden parachute arrives.​
 
I feel for the employees laid off because of management decisions and CEO greed.

MSG Australia who were apparently largely responsible for the development of the IndyCar game was shut down and all employees made redundant. KartKraft development will no doubt also cease (I note game is still available for purchase).

MSG is living on borrowed time - I hope LMU is a success and a complete experience & not a buggy mess and rF2 continues to live on. Looking at the financial data, there are no more licences to sell off to keep the lights on so good luck to the developers who remain loyal whilst managment line their pockets before their golden parachute arrives.​
I think even if LMU is successful some of the talented S397 folks may be looking for the door with an uncertain future. There must be a lot of stress as I would think most of the team are at a phase in their lives where they can't afford to be unemployed. Maybe some are waiting to see if they get packaged out too.
It would be ideal if whatever is going to happen would happen sooner than later because as a customer I don't feel confident buying a title I am not certain will be supported in 6 to 8 months from now and they need the launch to be a success. Sure they got funds from the sale of NASCAR but they also ate a lot of money packaging out staff. We are also talking about a game that at release will have only 7 tracks, most of which are already in Rfactor 2 and it has all but been confirmed LMU is a very slightly updated RF2 engine. If they can survive long enough and port it to console, that might be enough to sustain them but it looks rough right now.
 
So if I don't have some BTCC stuff in my rF2, I have to buy them before they disappear from store?
 
Lastly but a really unpopular opinion from a former ardent supporter - RIP sim racing, I don't see the motivation to buy new games nor new hardware to support it anymore - I will enjoy AC and rF2 while I can until my PC expires
Personally, having been at it since the start (Revs, Crammond's F1 etc) it's all so tedious now. It's still, essentially, all the same. I have AC with literally thousands of cars and tracks and yet I load it up and...... meh. Nothing has really changed sine the late 90s with GPL on VROC. Worse - AI is utter shite and online is toxic and still an eternal clown show into T1.

Isn't everyone else (bar the kids) fed up with it?

MSG just made the whole simracing world more toxic with their meddling of IP rights market just to deliver absolutely nothing whatsoever. They racked up licenses, prevented any other developer from accessing them, burnt a bunch of money and left a pile of rubbles behind them and not a single game produced.

All in all, a rather splendid endeavour. lol. Thanks MSG, thanks. Clear the stage!!!
 

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