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Yas Marina - Abu Dhabi (Dry)

Discussion in 'F1 2013 Setups' started by Dan Hawkins, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. Setup thread
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2014
  2. Car
    FERRARI

    Circuit
    Yas Marina

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    25%

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle: 8
    Rear Wing Angle: 9

    Braking
    Balance: F 48% - R 52%
    Pressure: High
    Brake Size: Normal

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 2
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 4

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height: 5
    Rear Ride Height: 7
    Front Spring Stiffness: 5
    Rear Spring Stiffness: 8

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: 143 kph / mph
    Gear 2: 176 kph / mph
    Gear 3: 203 kph / mph
    Gear 4: 233 kph / mph
    Gear 5: 262 kph / mph
    Gear 6: 292 kph / mph
    Gear 7: 322 kph / mph

    Engine
    Fuel Map: Rich

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -3.00
    Camber Rear: -1.00
    Toe Front: 0.10
    Toe Rear: 0.35

    Tyres
    Option

    Notes
    Career practice: 1.42.374 (Dry/Hard tyres)
    Q1: 1.42.638 (Dry/Hard tyres)
    Q2: 1.41.688 (Dry/Soft)
    Q3: 1.40.765 (Dry/Soft/3 laps fuel)
    The car is perfect, the only thing is to handle the tyres degradation.
     
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  3. Car
    Torro Rosso

    Circuit
    Yas Marina

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    25%

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle: 7
    Rear Wing Angle: 8

    Braking
    Balance: F 49% - R 50%
    Pressure: Medium
    Brake Size: Normal

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 1
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 6

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height: 3
    Rear Ride Height: 7
    Front Spring Stiffness: 5
    Rear Spring Stiffness: 8

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: Your choice
    Gear 2:
    Gear 3:
    Gear 4:
    Gear 5:
    Gear 6:
    Gear 7:

    Engine
    Fuel Map: Rich

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -3.00
    Camber Rear: -1.00
    Toe Front: 0.10
    Toe Rear: 0.35

    Tyres
    Option

    Notes
    Primes: 1:45.852
    Options: 1:44.238
     
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  4. Car
    Ferrari


    Circuit
    Yas Marina

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    25%

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle: 5
    Rear Wing Angle: 4

    Braking
    Balance: F 47% - R 53%
    Pressure: High
    Brake Size: Standard

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 3
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 10

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height: 3
    Rear Ride Height: 4
    Front Spring Stiffness: 5
    Rear Spring Stiffness: 4

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: 154 kph
    Gear 2: 187 kph
    Gear 3: 215 kph
    Gear 4: 243 kph
    Gear 5: 270 kph
    Gear 6: 297 kph
    Gear 7: 325 kph

    Engine
    Fuel Map: Rich

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -3.40
    Camber Rear: -1.20
    Toe Front: 0.12
    Toe Rear: 0.35

    Tyres
    Option
     
  5. Chris Stacey

    Chris Stacey
    Ted Kravitz Appreciation Society Staff Premium Member

    Race Setup

    Car

    Sauber

    Circuit
    Yas Marina

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    100%

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle: 9
    Rear Wing Angle: 4

    Braking
    Balance: F 58% - R 42%
    Pressure: Medium
    Brake Size: Normal

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 7
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 9

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height: 2
    Rear Ride Height: 3
    Front Spring Stiffness: 8
    Rear Spring Stiffness: 9

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: 140kph / 87 mph
    Gear 2: 172 kph / 107 mph
    Gear 3: 200 kph / 124 mph
    Gear 4: 230 kph / 143 mph
    Gear 5: 261 kph / 162 mph
    Gear 6: 288 kph / 179 mph
    Gear 7: 317 kph / 197 mph

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -3.10
    Camber Rear: -0.80
    Toe Front: 0.09
    Toe Rear: 0.38

    Notes
    About as Tilke-dromey as it gets. With more 90 degree corners than you can poke a stick at this place only has 2 corners that put a Formula One car through its paces, turns 2 and 3. It's pretty much a turd with lights.

    It's quite a low deg circuit, so the option tyre lasts quite well, which makes it a feasible race tyre. So the optimal strategy is either a 1 stop (option, prime) or a two stop (option, option, prime).
    • It's a track that rewards late braking, so having the brake bias more towards the front is helpful for a good lap.
    • Traction out of turns 9, 13 and 20 is crucial.
    • I believe I've found a good compromise between downforce, and straight line speed and gearing with this setup.

    This setup should allow for around 17-21 laps from a set of fresh options, and 25-31 laps from a set of fresh primes.
     
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  6. Without ABS the fronts totally lock up before even getting into 2nd gear. Theres a reason every quick setup has brake bias about 2 clicks rear lol.
     
  7. Chris Stacey

    Chris Stacey
    Ted Kravitz Appreciation Society Staff Premium Member

    You're obviously not braking properly then.

    Real F1 cars run around 55-60% front bias. This is because when you brake heavily in a straight line (Abu Dhabi has 3 heavy braking zones), the weight of the car is transferred onto the front wheels, meaning more of the braking needs to be done from the front. So setting the brake bias to the front gives the best results (shortest braking distance).

    Also, as mentioned in the large bolded font at the top, this is a race setup, not a qualifying or TT setup. It's not designed to be insanely quick over one lap. It's designed to give you lasting performance in a race of 100% distance.
    People who set their bias to like 48F-52R won't get as good results.

    The only track which requires anything near 50-50 bias is Monaco (51F-49R).
     
  8. I know full well REAL F1 cars run front bias, however in these games that almost never works. All the other setups must be wrong.
     
  9. Chris Stacey

    Chris Stacey
    Ted Kravitz Appreciation Society Staff Premium Member

    No but the fact that your locking up in second gear means that you're not braking properly. You're supposed to release the pressure the slower you go. Are you on a keyboard or gamepad?

    Having the front bias in my setup is only conducive to front locking when turning, and in those instances, the bias should be set to 'rear'.

    Anyway, this is a setup thread, and it's gotten slightly off topic.
     
  10. Look at it this way, with 48-52, i can brake without any locking, 50-50 brake a bit later but have to release brakes a bit earlier or fronts lock, 58-42, fronts are locked about 50 yards earlier than normal so have to release brakes waayyy to early for any late braking. plz dont tell me how to brake a car, if i needed help with that i wouldnt find legend too easy on this game......
     
  11. Chris Stacey

    Chris Stacey
    Ted Kravitz Appreciation Society Staff Premium Member

    That was hardly the point...
    What device are you playing the game with? Keyboard, gamepad, or wheel?
     
  12. Car
    Lotus

    Circuit
    Abu Dhabi

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    50% Online

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle:2
    Rear Wing Angle:1

    Braking
    Balance: F 48% - R 52%
    Pressure:High
    Brake Size:Large

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar:1
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar:1

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height:3
    Rear Ride Height:3
    Front Spring Stiffness:3
    Rear Spring Stiffness:3

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: 155 kph
    Gear 2: 188 kph
    Gear 3: 215 kph
    Gear 4: 241 kph
    Gear 5: 268 kph
    Gear 6: 295 kph
    Gear 7: 324 kph

    Engine
    Fuel Map:Rich

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -3.00
    Camber Rear: -1.00
    Toe Front: 0.15
    Toe Rear: 0.50

    Tyres
    Option

    Designed for online race/career. Max tyre preservation, as fast down straights without DRS as legend AI with DRS. Currently 189 on leaderboard without assists using gamepad, not designed for TT whatsoever.
     
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  13. Car
    Lotus

    Circuit
    Abu Dhabi

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    Racenet event / TT / 25% Race

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle:4
    Rear Wing Angle:1

    Braking
    Balance: F 50% - R 50%
    Pressure:High
    Brake Size: Standard

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar:11
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar:8

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height:1
    Rear Ride Height:1
    Front Spring Stiffness:11
    Rear Spring Stiffness:8

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: 142 kph
    Gear 2: 178 kph
    Gear 3: 208 kph
    Gear 4: 237 kph
    Gear 5: 268 kph
    Gear 6: 294 kph
    Gear 7: 323 kph

    Engine
    Fuel Map:Rich

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -3.50
    Camber Rear: -1.50
    Toe Front: 0.15
    Toe Rear: 0.50

    Tyres
    Option

    Currently #1 PC 1.38.667 - Racenet even

    Seems to work OK in races too, and is fine on all cars.

    Racing line only assist
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2013
  14. Car
    SAUBER


    Circuit
    Yas Marina

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    100%

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle: 7
    Rear Wing Angle: 7

    Braking
    Balance: F 50% - R 40%
    Pressure: High
    Brake Size: Normal

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 7

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height: 4
    Rear Ride Height: 5
    Front Spring Stiffness: 8
    Rear Spring Stiffness: 7

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: 139 kph
    Gear 2: 173 kph
    Gear 3: 201 kph
    Gear 4: 229 kph
    Gear 5: 259 kph
    Gear 6: 287 kph
    Gear 7: 320 kph

    Engine
    Fuel Map:

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -3.10
    Camber Rear: -1.10
    Toe Front: 0.11
    Toe Rear: 0.38

    Tyres
    Option

    Notes
    Career, g25, no assists, 1:41.xxx,1:42.xxx
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2013
  15. This setup is not good. The option will wear out after 4 laps and the car is undriveable. I tried a offline GP with Raikkonen and 50% of race
     
  16. Awesome setup mate. I went way to far down the path of tyre conservation with mine and it ended up eating tyres quicker lol. Yours looks like the exact opposite, especially the alignment values, in that tyres wont last 2 minutes but weirdly they seem to last OK. I have found I had to dial a little camber out for online races and lower the gearbox a bit a tyres weren't lasting quite long enough and not getting near top of 7th gear with full fuel.
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2013
  17. Yeah TBH ive kinda come to realise Ive gone down a dead end with this setup direction. The weird thing is this setup is almost a complete copy of a league racing friends setup and it works brilliantly for him lol?. I like the way the car drives with this setup, very soft and understeery, but its just not fast enough when pushed on this twisty track and when you do push it as you say the tyres get mulched. I dont have the subtle control using my fingers with a pad instead of my feet with pedals so tried to dial out all wheel spin/rear tyre wear but didnt work. Ironically ive found using the setup from Lotus F1 Team posted above but with the rear camber dialled back a few clicks works for me. on -3.5/-1.5 I just eat rear tyres lol.

    Still top 200 using a slow setup ain't bad going lol. I'll have to try using the the new setup, perhaps I can break the top 50 :)
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2013
  18. hi,
    I've tried different setups from here, but the best time was 1.41.4xx, progress stopped. Then, I just set "quick car setup" in right position (fast) and Aerodynamics: 4 (front) and 2 (rear).
    My time was 1.40.9 on second lap :)

    xbox 360 pad
     
  19. Car
    Red bull


    Circuit
    Yas Marina

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    50%

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle: 3
    Rear Wing Angle: 1

    Braking
    Balance: F 48% - R 52%
    Pressure: High
    Brake Size: Normal

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar:4
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 11

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height: 2
    Rear Ride Height: 2
    Front Spring Stiffness: 4
    Rear Spring Stiffness: 5

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: 143 kph
    Gear 2: 176 kph
    Gear 3: 203 kph
    Gear 4: 231 kph
    Gear 5: 260 kph
    Gear 6: 289 kph
    Gear 7: 321 kph

    Engine
    Fuel Map:

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -3.40
    Camber Rear: -1.40
    Toe Front: 0.14
    Toe Rear: 0.47

    This setup is not hard on the tyres during the race!!
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2013
  20. Car
    MERCEDES


    Circuit
    Yas Marina

    Condition
    Dry

    Distance
    25%

    Aerodynamics
    Front Wing Angle: 3
    Rear Wing Angle: 4

    Braking
    Balance: F 50% - R 50%
    Pressure: High
    Brake Size: Normal

    Balance
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 4
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 7

    Suspension
    Front Ride Height: 5
    Rear Ride Height: 7
    Front Spring Stiffness: 4
    Rear Spring Stiffness: 5

    Gearbox
    Gear 1: 144 kph
    Gear 2: 182 kph
    Gear 3: 210 kph
    Gear 4: 236 kph
    Gear 5: 265 kph
    Gear 6: 294 kph
    Gear 7: 323 kph

    Engine
    Fuel Map: Rich

    Alignment
    Camber Front: -2.80
    Camber Rear: -0.80
    Toe Front: 0.11
    Toe Rear: 0.35

    Tyres
    Hard tyres degradation per lap: 6 - 7%
    Soft tyres degradation per lap: 9 - 10%

    Notes
    Career practice: 1.42.260 (Dry/ Soft tyres)
    Q1: 1.42.886 (Dry/ Hard tyres)
    Q2: 1.41.769 (Dry/ Soft tyres)
    Q3: 1.41.320 (Dry/ Soft tyres/ 3 laps fuel)
    I've done these times playing on x360pad