Cars New physics for bazza's gpl 67 mod 1.2

[weikangcai]

weikangcai submitted a new resource:

New physics for bazza's gpl 67 mod - car physics grip weight

This updates bazza's gpl 67 mod for AC
changes include
1. increased grip
2. better default setup
3. increased car weight (assume driver's weight is 70kg)
4. decrease BRM's engine volumn (requires CSP)
5. AI brakes more efficiently

in general, cars are faster and AI at 100% difficult can do lap times like in real life 1967 GP.

Note: Kyalami had been widened and resurfaced in 1968, the one in AC should be considered the 1976 version (see AMS 2) and is faster than the 1967 version. Zandvoort...

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[weikangcai]

Sorry, posted in the wrong section, should be in the AC Cars section

 

[Velocita]

Increased grip? The cars were already too fast.

 

[weikangcai]

Increased grip? The cars were already too fast.

for unmodified cars it's 1:31 in silverstone vs 1:24(pole) or 1:27(fastest lap)
even with increased grip it's 3:33.7 in spa vs 3:24(pole) or 3:32(fastest lap)
nurburging 67 pole is 8:04. with increased grip it's 8:10+ corresponding to fastest lap 8:15
watkins glen, 67 pole is 1:04 fastest lap 1:06. in game with my modification, fastest AI is 1:07
I don't know where do you get the idea that the original cars are too fast. they're way slower than GPL or AMS2 and of course reality

*Edit* 1967 pole time for spa is 3:28.1, for silverstone is 1:25.3 I didn't remember them correctly

 

[weikangcai]

The lap times I posted are done by 100% strength AI lotus 49. note it's the lotus 49 in Bazza's 1967 mod, not the default lotus 49 by Kunos

 

[Velocita]

for unmodified cars it's 1:31 in silverstone vs 1:24(pole) or 1:27(fastest lap)
even with increased grip it's 3:33.7 in spa vs 3:24(pole) or 3:32(fastest lap)
nurburging 67 pole is 8:04. with increased grip it's 8:10+ corresponding to fastest lap 8:15
watkins glen, 67 pole is 1:04 fastest lap 1:06. in game with my modification, fastest AI is 1:07
I don't know where do you get the idea that the original cars are too fast. they're way slower than GPL or AMS2 and of course reality

The original mod can do 3:24's or 3:25's in qualy pace around Spa. That's 3-4 seconds faster than the actual pole lap.

What grip setting did you test on?

 

[weikangcai]

The original mod can do 3:24's or 3:25's in qualy pace around Spa. That's 3-4 seconds faster than the actual pole lap.

What grip setting did you test on?

What grip setting can be adjusted in AC? everything by default. just because a human player can do a ridiculously fast lap, doesn't mean the cars are too fast, check gpl hot laps. I'd like to watch that 3:24 lap

https://f1.fandom.com/wiki/1967_Belgian_Grand_Prix described a 67 belgian gp accident

it was Parkes who was first to hit the oil slick on the flat out Blanchimont corner.[1] The Englishman lost control on the slick and was sent into the trees at over 150mph,

even with my mod that corner is not flat out, about 220km/h in the apex of the 1st faster left hander (both by me and AI), 150mph=240km/h

 

[Velocita]

What grip setting can be adjusted in AC? everything by default. just because a human player can do a ridiculously fast lap, doesn't mean the cars are too fast, check gpl hot laps. I'd like to watch that 3:24 lap

https://f1.fandom.com/wiki/1967_Belgian_Grand_Prix described a 67 belgian gp accident

it was Parkes who was first to hit the oil slick on the flat out Blanchimont corner.[1] The Englishman lost control on the slick and was sent into the trees at over 150mph,

even with my mod that corner is not flat out, about 220km/h in the apex of the 1st faster left hander (both by me and AI), 150mph=240km/h

The track grip? Green is 95%, Slow 96%, Fast 98%, Optimum 100%.

Players were regularly doing laps in the 3:24-3:26 range at Spa.

 

[weikangcai]

The original mod can do 3:24's or 3:25's in qualy pace around Spa. That's 3-4 seconds faster than the actual pole lap.

What grip setting did you test on?

This is a 3:25 lap in gpl in race(!) in spa by a human player. it's the more accurate version, not the default version by papyrus

格兰披治传奇 Lotus 49 @ Spa-Francorchamps '67_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

Grand Prix Legends，vJoy+FreePIE鼠标控制。这次打了新的莲花座舱贴图和引擎声,还有实时遥测插件。左上角第一行是理论圈速，第二行最快圈速，三、四行是上一圈和当前圈（冲线前的PIT板的时间只能显示前一圈的圈速）。右下角两块区域里的蓝色数值是四个轮胎的温度，上面的是轮胎接地面的实时温度，下面的是轮胎平均温度，绿色代表最佳温度。关于斯帕67的一点点背景：由于GPL的原版斯帕与6, 视频播放量 543、弹幕量 0、点赞数 12、投硬币枚数 6、收藏人数 9、转发人数 10, 视频作者 SVictor歪可忒, 作者简介 兜风boy，相关视频：格兰披治传奇 Lotus...

www.bilibili.com

Is gpl cars too fast for you?

 

[weikangcai]

The track grip? Green is 95%, Slow 96%, Fast 98%, Optimum 100%.

Players were regularly doing laps in the 3:24-3:26 range at Spa.

Optimum.
Note: video description says (in Chinese) that gpl player controls the car with a computer mouse

 

[Velocita]

This is a 3:25 lap in gpl in race(!) in spa by a human player. it's the more accurate version, not the default version by papyrus

格兰披治传奇 Lotus 49 @ Spa-Francorchamps '67_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

Grand Prix Legends，vJoy+FreePIE鼠标控制。这次打了新的莲花座舱贴图和引擎声,还有实时遥测插件。左上角第一行是理论圈速，第二行最快圈速，三、四行是上一圈和当前圈（冲线前的PIT板的时间只能显示前一圈的圈速）。右下角两块区域里的蓝色数值是四个轮胎的温度，上面的是轮胎接地面的实时温度，下面的是轮胎平均温度，绿色代表最佳温度。关于斯帕67的一点点背景：由于GPL的原版斯帕与6, 视频播放量 543、弹幕量 0、点赞数 12、投硬币枚数 6、收藏人数 9、转发人数 10, 视频作者 SVictor歪可忒, 作者简介 兜风boy，相关视频：格兰披治传奇 Lotus...

www.bilibili.com

Is gpl cars too fast for you?

We're going off the GPL 67 mod by Bazza for Assetto Corsa, not the GPL game.

 

[weikangcai]

We're going off the GPL 67 mod by Bazza for Assetto Corsa, not the GPL game.

My point is human players can always do ridiculous fast lap times, no matter what physics is. GPL has a reputation of being more difficult than reality.

 

[weikangcai]

Increased grip? The cars were already too fast.

In a short race, the fastest lap of AI in the default kunos lotus 49 @ silverstone is 1:27:875
In my mod the fastest lap of AI in the lotus 49 @ silverstone is 1:27:937
in bazza's mod the fastest lap of AI in lotus 49 @ silverstone is 1:31

so bazza's mod is the odd one

 

[weikangcai]

I salute SteamPunkCrow who register more than 1 year ago (Nov-2021), made absolutely no posts, no reaction score, came here to just give "like" to Velocita who can't defend himself.

 

[SteamPunkCrow]

I salute SteamPunkCrow who register more than 1 year ago (Nov-2021), made absolutely no posts, no reaction score, came here to just give "like" to Velocita who can't defend himself.

Next time, when you're right about something let me know and I'll be happy to come give you some likes, too buddy. Until then, keep whining because somebody else got a like and you didn't.

 

[weikangcai]

Next time, when you're right about something let me know and I'll be happy to come give you some likes, too buddy. Until then, keep whining because somebody else got a like and you didn't.

I can also register many accounts or call my friends to give me "likes". but I'm more honorable than that

 

[weikangcai]

Next time, when you're right about something let me know and I'll be happy to come give you some likes, too buddy. Until then, keep whining because somebody else got a like and you didn't.

The fact that Lotus 49 in Bazza's mod is way slower than Kunos' default lotus 49 made Velocita's claim indefensible

 

[Scotty.T]

Increased grip? The cars were already too fast.

SO TRUE BESTIE

 

[Velocita]

The fact that Lotus 49 in Bazza's mod is way slower than Kunos' default lotus 49 made Velocita's claim indefensible

What claim? I still managed a 3:25 around Spa with your mod and can do a 3:24 with the unmodded gpl Lotus.

If you were only intending on releasing this for AI to help balance that you should have stated that in your original post.

 

[Scotty.T]

I can also register many accounts or call my friends to give me "likes". but I'm more honorable than that