So the basic issue is that for me driving the F Extreme and F Reiza is not enjoyable because at those critical moments at the limits of grip I get no meaningful FFB information. This is in stark contrast to just about any other SCE car I can think of and definitely the opposite to how I experience the FFB from the monster that is the F V12. As a result the ironic thing is that I find the FV12 far easier to drive and that's entirely down to the fact that I can catch spins and slides by sensing those traction events in the FFB. The classic example for me is something like coming out of the speedy left turn hairpin at Bologna historic, the one at the end of the Tamburello straight, and how its very easy to put too much power down and have the rear want to step out. With the V12 I can catch it, while with the Reiza and the Extreme I can't, not without turning my FFB up so high that I get significant clipping. At a FFB level that doesn't give me clipping I just feel nothing to indicate I've lost traction. For reference I use a DFGT so its a pretty weak FFB wheel compared to most people's I'm sure. Still I've made a few tries at solving it by tweaking RealFeel settings, and the result is better but still lacking. It feels like going from a sharp crisp image with the V12 to a blurry one, or like trying to catch a ball with one hand over your eye. Basically no matter how much time I put into either the Reiza or the Extreme I develop no confidence at the limit. I can only stay on the track consistently by under driving because I can't butt up against the limit without blowing through it. I find myself trying to guess at a spin not by feel but by inference from speed and conditions (basically pattern recognition) which is obviously no way to race. I'm going to keep tweaking and see what I can come up with. I'm hoping someone else has some insights that might aid me however.