Yeah agree to what you say about that default drift map ... i just dont know where i should turn next. By the way i still wondering how to initial a drift ... and do i have some kind of ffb when the car is drifting ??I think Magione is a good track to learn - it has a variety of corners that all require slightly different inputs, has a great left, right, left sequence at the end. It's quite short - easy to do many laps and become familiar with the layout, and it's completely flat (although a bit bumpy in places). The default drift map is fun, but there are almost too many options - you're spoilt for choice! Learning a race track might get you into a better rhythm.
Outside circuit of the map ?? Ok will try.For the very basics just use the outside circuit of the drift map
And when you want to learn doing combos:Outside circuit of the map ?? Ok will try.
Thanks first but i still cant do a single drift properly .. its easy to make the car start to drift but very hard to keep it drifting .. either the drift stop (too much counter steering ??) or angle too big (too much throttle ?? counter steer too late ??) ...And when you want to learn doing combos:
Use the turns you can see here in the midfield, after the first turn Drift in right, switch to left, end with a nice right one.
For you too easy, but for some already hard enoughI don't know about the e30 m3 drift. It feels like driving a godmode car. Too easy...
Anyway, right now I find vallelunga+ruf combo just the best for drifting
No, I mean objectively... Try turning the wheel to full lock. The turning circle of that car is just ridiculous. I mean, it can turn 180% way too fast. That's what I meant when I said godmode.For you too easy, but for some already hard enough
Ideally you want quite strong FFB in order to help apply a large amount of opposite-lock when you kick the rear out. I use a T500RS, which is good for that initial stage of counter-steering as it is quite fast, but it feels too heavily-damped so not particularly communicative once you are in the middle of the drift. I'm having to mostly rely on visual and audio cues to react to the balance of the car rather than FFB.Yeah agree to what you say about that default drift map ... i just dont know where i should turn next. By the way i still wondering how to initial a drift ... and do i have some kind of ffb when the car is drifting ??
Thanks
I have to disagree with you on the ruf, and t500 not being communicative. Yes it has been so before, but with the ruf I can now for the first time really feel the car through the wheel. The subtle nuances under braking. And mid drift, you I can feel exactly what the car wants from me: more lock, less throttle, more throttle. For the first time EVER I can put the car where I want to in a drift. Big angle slow drift, fast long drift.... you name it.Ideally you want quite strong FFB in order to help apply a large amount of opposite-lock when you kick the rear out. I use a T500RS, which is good for that initial stage of counter-steering as it is quite fast, but it feels too heavily-damped so not particularly communicative once you are in the middle of the drift. I'm having to mostly rely on visual and audio cues to react to the balance of the car rather than FFB.
Here's a recent bit of fun I had around Magione. Unfortunately I forgot to add the pedal input display but perhaps it might help if you watch the steering and listen to the engine:
The 'recovery' phase at the end of a drift is the hardest part - and it depends a lot on your throttle control. As you can see I was struggling with that, particularly coming onto the back straight where I pushed a bit too hard - in the case of the Ruf, having the classic 'pendulum' effect of a rear-engined Porsche, it is all too easy to have the rear go the other way when you just want it to straighten up, so probably not the car to learn with. Being able to bring the rear tyres back in line is as much about modulating your right foot as re-centring the steering. You also have to 'fight' the FFB to some extent when you're straightening up, so it can be counter-intuitive compared to the initial 'catch' which should feel quite natural.
I understand (and disagree with) your opinion of the T500, but what are you disagreeing with about the Ruf?I have to disagree with you on the ruf, and t500 not being communicative. Yes it has been so before, but with the ruf I can now for the first time really feel the car through the wheel. The subtle nuances under braking. And mid drift, you I can feel exactly what the car wants from me: more lock, less throttle, more throttle. For the first time EVER I can put the car where I want to in a drift. Big angle slow drift, fast long drift.... you name it.
And I can exactly feel where I need to turn the wheel. It smooths out when the wheel have traction, and so I just 'ride the wave' when finishing the drift. I don't know how to describe it better. I let the wheel guide me.
I think he means the combination of RUF with T500, not the RUF and the wheel as 2 seperate disagreementsI understand (and disagree with) your opinion of the T500, but what are you disagreeing with about the Ruf?
Looks like i already watched & LIKE this video long time ago but forget about it right away since i have no plan to learn drifting at that time .. but now this video going to be very useful. Thanks firstThis video is the one I used at my first drifting attempt
Then after a lot of practice I decided to focus on driving fast on race circuits first before returning to drifting.
Is it possible you do a video for this in cockpit view with pedal & gear app ?? Thanks first.I don't know about the e30 m3 drift. It feels like driving a godmode car. Too easy...
Anyway, right now I find vallelunga+ruf combo just the best for drifting
I am not a drift expert I am sorry. I think somebody else might be able to answer that questionLooks like i already watched & LIKE this video long time ago but forget about it right away since i have no plan to learn drifting at that time .. but now this video going to be very useful. Thanks first
By the way one question first .. did the wheel has any ffb when the car already sliding but before regain the grip ??