F1 23: 2023 F2 Cars Out Now in Sports Update

Raikku · Sep 27, 2023

Wish that they could add F3's at some point/some year's F1-game.

Kingkoenig · Sep 27, 2023

One more reason to avoid, if possible, to buy the F1 game on release day: it takes 3 months to add the current year's F2 liveries. I don't understand why it takes such a long time.

I wonder what will happen next year, when the new F2 car is introduced. We're not talking about a simple set of liveries, but an entire new physics model.

nfghgdh · Sep 28, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
One more reason to avoid, if possible, to buy the F1 game on release day: it takes 3 months to add the current year's F2 liveries. I don't understand why it takes such a long time.

I wonder what will happen next year, when the new F2 car is introduced. We're not talking about a simple set of liveries, but an entire new physics model.

Also the painfully slow updates of models. I remember CTDP 2006 mod in rfactor had every version of every car for the season. Scum-masters and EA once they take peoples cash post the marketing hype do nothing.

Stelcio · Sep 28, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
One more reason to avoid, if possible, to buy the F1 game on release day: it takes 3 months to add the current year's F2 liveries. I don't understand why it takes such a long time.

That's because you misunderstand the concept of Formula 2 in F1 games. It serves as an entry point for the career mode. And in order to do that, it needs to be the season year before the F1 season that's being represented in the game.

In simple terms, in order to graduate to Formula 1 in 2023, you need to compete in Formula 2 in 2022, not 2023.

You may disagree with that approach, but it's coherent and 2023 F2 season is basically a bonus in it and it makes sense.

Kingkoenig · Sep 28, 2023

Stelcio said:
That's because you misunderstand the concept of Formula 2 in F1 games. It serves as an entry point for the career mode. And in order to do that, it needs to be the season year before the F1 season that's being represented in the game.

In simple terms, in order to graduate to Formula 1 in 2023, you need to compete in Formula 2 in 2022, not 2023.

You may disagree with that approach, but it's coherent and 2023 F2 season is basically a bonus in it and it makes sense.

Honestly, that sounds like a very poor reason for the delay. What if someone wants to jump in and race the current F2 right away, without bothering with career mode?

I mean, it's not *that* hard to have the liveries ready for release day.

Stelcio · Sep 28, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
Honestly, that sounds like a very poor reason for the delay. What if someone wants to jump in and race the current F2 right away, without bothering with career mode?

I mean, it's not *that* hard to have the liveries ready for release day.

It's a Formula 1 game first and foremost. Formula 2 serves a subservant role there, just like in real life.

Kingkoenig · Sep 28, 2023

Stelcio said:
It's a Formula 1 game first and foremost. Formula 2 serves a subservant role there, just like in real life.

Sorry, but I am simply not convinced. It's just a game. Just make the liveries available on day 1.

Stelcio · Sep 29, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
Sorry, but I am simply not convinced. It's just a game. Just make the liveries available on day 1.

That's just acting entitled. You're buying a Formula 1 game and you get a preceding Formula 2 season in the package, for the reasons I mentioned. That's the deal.

Kingkoenig · Sep 29, 2023

Stelcio said:
That's just acting entitled. You're buying a Formula 1 game and you get a preceding Formula 2 season in the package, for the reasons I mentioned. That's the deal.

Considering the high price EA asks every year for its game, I can't see how my comment can come off as entitled. And the reason you mentioned makes no sense. Making the customer wait 3 months for something that could be released on day 1 is just ridiculous.

Aki Korhonen · Oct 16, 2023

they don't want to publish too much content because it will be absent from the next game release. so here it becomes clear EA's line which is the same year after year regardless of the game.

TeddyBearx · Oct 16, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
One more reason to avoid, if possible, to buy the F1 game on release day: it takes 3 months to add the current year's F2 liveries. I don't understand why it takes such a long time.

I wonder what will happen next year, when the new F2 car is introduced. We're not talking about a simple set of liveries, but an entire new physics model.

you can buy if you are F1 fan, personnally I won't use F2, like for WRC game, I use only WRC 1 cars, never WRC 2 or WRC3, I rarely use GT4, only GT3

Buying F1 23 for the F2 cars is very rare.

Anyway, it wont change that F1 23 is the best F1 game and has the most copies sold, with or without F2.

Nikki Trowzer · Oct 16, 2023

Not impressed there is still no Mugello and there is still no Istanbul Park

Stelcio · Oct 16, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
Considering the high price EA asks every year for its game, I can't see how my comment can come off as entitled. And the reason you mentioned makes no sense. Making the customer wait 3 months for something that could be released on day 1 is just ridiculous.

It's entitled because you're bitching about waiting for something that's not part of the offer.

Doesn't matter how much it cost, because that's not what you paid for. 2023 F2 liveries are not what you paid for. Demanding them based on the pricetag is just populism.

You don't like the price for what you're getting? Don't buy. End of story.

And if you think there's nothing stopping devs from adding those liveries right away, including also suits and faces, etc., then maybe make a livery sometime and find out if it's really so effortless.

kilder · Oct 16, 2023

Cry babies can't wait 3 months for skins. Typical RD Member

Badwheels · Oct 16, 2023

Here's a thought. Don't include F2 cars. Fix everything wrong with F1 and at the end of the year, if there is time, throw in the F2 cars then. F1 should be ashamed that this is their "official game".

kilder · Oct 16, 2023

Badwheels said:
Here's a thought. Don't include F2 cars. Fix everything wrong with F1 and at the end of the year, if there is time, throw in the F2 cars then. F1 should be ashamed that this is their "official game".

Different people for different tasks.

Kingkoenig · Oct 16, 2023

Stelcio said:
It's entitled because you're bitching about waiting for something that's not part of the offer.

Doesn't matter how much it cost, because that's not what you paid for. 2023 F2 liveries are not what you paid for. Demanding them based on the pricetag is just populism.

You don't like the price for what you're getting? Don't buy. End of story.

And if you think there's nothing stopping devs from adding those liveries right away, including also suits and faces, etc., then maybe make a livery sometime and find out if it's really so effortless.

I think some people here work for EA. That's the only explanation for those who try to justify something that is so hard to justify in the first place.

This is EA, not a small studio. Considering the resources at their disposal, and the fact that they are selling at full price every year what is essentially a livery update with minor changes, it's not a big demand to release the current F2 liveries at the same time as the old ones.

Kingkoenig · Oct 16, 2023

Nikki Trowzer said:
Not impressed there is still no Mugello and there is still no Istanbul Park

And there never will be...

Stelcio · Oct 17, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
I think some people here work for EA. That's the only explanation for those who try to justify something that is so hard to justify in the first place.

This is EA, not a small studio. Considering the resources at their disposal, and the fact that they are selling at full price every year what is essentially a livery update with minor changes, it's not a big demand to release the current F2 liveries at the same time as the old ones.

What's hard to justify is complaining about not getting something you didn't pay for. And EA's vast resources don't exist to satisfy your personal whims. Get over yourself.

Raymond Racing · Oct 17, 2023

Kingkoenig said:
One more reason to avoid, if possible, to buy the F1 game on release day: it takes 3 months to add the current year's F2 liveries. I don't understand why it takes such a long time.

I wonder what will happen next year, when the new F2 car is introduced. We're not talking about a simple set of liveries, but an entire new physics model.

My guess is that there's a lot of logistics behind it; modelling new drivers' faces, licensing agreements with teams, drivers and specific sponsors for logos & likenesses to appear in-game, and probably several other behind-the-scenes factors.

After all, licensing is one of the biggest prohibiting factors for other racing games to adding in their legacy content, even if they have assets from prior titles all ready to go in the latest title, never mind any new content.

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