WTCC 08 @ Monza 08 - Tue December 8th 2009

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Yesh Ivo it was great fun! To bad i was not able to keep you behind me in Race II :) I was really looking forward to score a point in a club race :) Almost there :) \o/
9th place in race II was again a personal victory for me.

*now I need to do some work on the "M"in my race profile and change it to Michael*
 

János Ócsai

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Ahh, I still need a lot of practice.

Qualy: Run a quite good qualy (according to me), and when I returned to the pit, realized that it's not superpole... oops. Could have run more laps.

Race 1: At start saw that the track is too narrow to jump out with the Beemer and overtake 2 rows (as usual :glasses-cool: ). In the first chicane bumped into some laggy people, fall back, the others were way faster than me. After a while I was lapping alone. And in the last lap in the last S turn out managed to loose traction. Hit the edge of the tirewall, engine, suspension gone. Oh great, end of the race! :sad:

Race 2: At start in the first chicane there was a huge pile-up, got stuck a little, but maanaged to maintain position. In the first lap there was some good close racing, but I run wide in the last corner. After that I was racing mostly alone. Last lap I caught Bram and Warren, having some close intimate situation. :handshake:
Bram let me overtake, as he was lapped, tried to also overtake Warren in the last corner, but there wasn't enough space on the inside, so Warren took off and landed in the gravel. While I waited for Warren to recover, Bram started to get close to me, so he was pushing me from behind till the finish line. I didn't like that. Sorry Bram, I'm not that kind of guy...:poke::woot2:

Thx for the event.
 

Marcel Hulsbergen

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Yesh Ivo it was great fun! To bad i was not able to keep you behind me in Race II :) I was really looking forward to score a point in a club race :) Almost there :) \o/
9th place in race II was again a personal victory for me.

*now I need to do some work on the "M"in my race profile and change it to Michael*
Just create a new profile with the right name.

Then go to C:\Users\Your logon\My Documents\SimBin\RACE 07\UserData\Your profile name and copy the profile files into the new profile and you are done. If the users folder is on another drive, like mine is on D:\ then go to the users folder there.
 

Cristian Haba

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Great race guys, Monza is that kind of track.

Qually: I had not raced the E46 for a while, or Race On for that matter. Got to grips as best as I could with an old setup I had for the 06 model. Was no where near the best lap, I couldn't get the back end under control over the chicanes which cost me a lot of time. However placed second with 59.8 in a 3 yr old car so it wasn't all tears. It's great revving the crap out of this car, crazy late braking potential.

Race 1:
Decent start for me, I bogged the engine quite a bit however I was able to pull to 1st on the short bit of straight we had and made a good exit out of the chicane and kept the lead until the end. There were a few hairy moments when the tires would randomly give out but otherwise good constant pressure from Maik kept me awake. Grats mate.

Race 2:
Towards the end of race 1 I was suffering from a lot of lag, manifested even in low framerates for most of the time. I was racing with prolly 23-26fps for most of the last few laps. This time it was even worse, 17fps at start decided that I would stay in the race but back off completely in the start to not ruin anyones race. After first chicane I was last, made my way up as high as I could I think it was 6th. Was great racing with Ivo and Michael.

Grats to Maik for the overall win, and from what I could see a rather good race here. It's not the easiest place to race clean here, accidents to tend to happen a lot so it was nice to see some damage control.
 

Bram Hengeveld

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While I waited for Warren to recover, Bram started to get close to me, so he was pushing me from behind till the finish line. I didn't like that. Sorry Bram, I'm not that kind of guy...:poke::woot2:
Strange because the sweet moaning sounds you made indicated something else :love:
 

Warren Dawes

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Glad I was able to join you guys for this, it has been ages since I had a drive in a WTCC car, and even longer since I drove the E46. I can never get any speed out of the E46, but I love the sound, best of all the cars.

Race 1 was a case of trying to stay out of trouble, not easy with the "usual nonsense" at Monza. Had a few good laps of racing at the end with Ivo. :).

Race 2, I made some "hopeful" setup changes but I think it was actually worse. Hard to tell, as I was T-Boned in the first chicane and sustained damage. Had some good close racing for a few laps but just didn't have the acceleration out of turns and kept losing spots. Late in the race, I was being passed by Phillip and lost the tail exiting a turn, only to bounce off a wall and back into Phillip, sending him off track. Very sorry Phillip :sorry:. I stopped and waited for a long time but Phillip didn't re-appear and eventually quit. :sad: So I decided to continue on and ended up having some shennanigans with Bram and Janos.

Thanks for organising Bram and thanks to those who raced.

My only disappointment was having to listen and read Ivo's complaining about the S60, especially since he "stole" it from under my nose and I love that car. :fish: :bump2: :lol:
 

Nigel Atkins

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accidentally hit Nigel which ended his race. Really sorry for that, I braked at the usual spot and gave you the smallest tap but it still knocked you off.
it felt a bit more than a tap, but i`ll forgive you :kissed:

did get any practice in before the event, been playing Dirt 2 to much :shame:
spent most of offical practice trying to relearn how to drive a FWD lol

Race 1, rubbish start due to the stupid 1st and 2nd gears, then tried to hard to catch back up and kept dropping back, till the last 2 laps when i go tmy act together.

Race 2, rubbish start of the line, but due to others going of was upto 6th untill my crash where i hit the barrier loosing my splitter and getting a punture. didnt want to risk causing havok returning to the pits so quit and went back rallying :p
 
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If anybody wants to join, please hurry and take the car of the names in red (sign up post)
lol,sorry didn't had time to read that post.
As i had no practise laps in a car i've never driven with no setup,it was still alot of fun.The rear of the car was all over the place.But still manneged to finish 7th.

Race 2 sarted from p2,made some changes wich seem to work and the car was more predicteble and finished 4th.

Had some lag especially at the start of race 1.
Bumped into Antonia's rear i believe ,but i didn't think you brake that early.
No harm done fortunatly,was great racing with you guys.
Hope to get more practise next time around so i can be a bit more competetive.
 

Philip Antonia

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. Late in the race, I was being passed by Phillip and lost the tail exiting a turn, only to bounce off a wall and back into Phillip, sending him off track. Very sorry Phillip :sorry:. I stopped and waited for a long time but Phillip didn't re-appear and eventually quit. :sad:
No worries Warren. My car had terminal damage so I couldn't continue. Sorry you waited for no reason:(


Bumped into Antonia's rear i believe ,but i didn't think you brake that early.
No harm done fortunatly,was great racing with you guys.
Hope to get more practise next time around so i can be a bit more competetive.
Once again no worries Martijn. With such long and heavy braking zones minor little taps like that are inevitable:).

@Phillip, i am not bollocking at all, only a clear judgment that your peugeot rammed me full from behind and i left the gravel trap in last position and heavy damaged, can't draw any other conclusion then can I?
Bram, I'm sorry for my involvement in your going off. I know I ran into the back off a Chevy which I think was Denis and there was a Seat infront (which I assume was you) which in turn got a nudge from the Chevy. I had to get through the chicane b4 pulling over and I had cars flying past both sides of me as I tried to stay out of the way whilst watching for the Chevy to recover. I didn't realise that anyone else was in the gravel so once Denis passed I continued on. If I'd known you were there I would not of driven off as I always obey the waiting rule. I was just hurt by the comments on the server as I'm always gracious and friendly to my fellow racers and sometimes in situations like that it seems like it's forgotten that I'm a continuing member of this community and that it matters very much to me. I'd of hoped that my involvement in probably 150+ plus races and 100% attendance in 2 league seasons here would have given me the benefit of the doubt b4 being made to look like a "hit & runner" infront of the other racers.

I have a big respect for you Bram and the other moderators that make this community what it is. I hope this hasn't given you a negative opinion of me:dont-know:.
 

Warren Dawes

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No worries Warren. My car had terminal damage so I couldn't continue. Sorry you waited for no reason:(
I wasn't worried about the lost time Philip, more embarrassed by the error I made. I sorta guessed that you may have been wrecked when I decided to drive on. I had some fun after that anyway.

I must add though, I have raced many times with Philip and have always found him to be a thorough gentleman and clean driver. If he makes the odd boo boo (as we all do), he always waits, so I'm sure the Race 2 incident was a simple misunderstanding. The replay shows he waited for the entire field to pass (except Bram).
 
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