[WIP]AI Mod v0,1b (Patch 1.2!)

Discussion in 'F1 2011 Mods' started by Kristian Nenov, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. Kristian Nenov

    Kristian Nenov

    The mod is Work in Progress and is still not released!
    Increased overall AI aggression.​
    Increased pilot-based AI aggression.​
    Increased AI mistakes.​
    AI retirements due to technical issues limited to 2 (pilots) per race.​
    Lotus/HRT/Virgin teams made faster (You won't be bored if you race for them anymore).​
    Increased Safety Car Chance.​
    Max Safety Cars per race: 2 (on some races like Monaco - 4).​
    Safety Car speed slightly increased.​
    Every AI has 2% chance to stall at race start.​
    Every driver has a different chance of making a mistake. (Lower grade drivers make more mistakes).​
    50 flashbacks on all difficulties.​
    Autosave fixed!​
    Out of Sight bug fixed!​
    As Force India finished 6th after Renault the teams are now:​
    McLaren, RedBull, Ferrari - Tier 1​
    Mercedes, Renault - Tier 2​
    Force India, Sauber - Tier 3​
    Toro Rosso, Williams - Tier 4​
    Lotus, HRT, Virgin - Tier 5​
    Realistic tyre change times in pits. (The time for that they change your tyres.).​
    1) Red Bull: 2.9 - 4.0​
    2) Ferrari: 3.0 - 4.2​
    3) McLaren: 3.2 - 4.1​
    4) Mercedes: 3.2 - 4.1​
    5) Renault: 3.5 - 3.9​
    6) Force India: 3.7 - 4.4​
    7) Williams: 4.0 - 4.5​
    8) BMW Sauber: 4.2 - 4.5​
    9) Toro Rosso: 4.3 - 4.4​
    10) Lotus: 3.7 - 4.7​
    11) Virgin: 3.7 - 4.7​
    12) HRT: 3.7 - 4.7​
    Features which I'm working on:​
    Realistic tyre change times in pits. (The time for that they change your tyres.). - DONE
    Team/Driver based technical issues. - DONE
    More balanced team performance. (Almost done) - DONE
    I'm trying to fix Massa's performance but he's still fighting for a win even when I made him 0,75 performance. - DONE
    Out of Sight bug- DONE
    There may be some things which I've forgotten!
    This mod does NOT change the breaking points of the cars! It has almost been fixed with Patch 1.2 and I don't want to touch these files again. I have a few tracks made for Patch 1.0/1.1 if someone want 'em I can upload them too but separated from this mod!
    I'm looking for a few testers, because I don't have much time to do 100% races. They'll need to make a few 100% races and tell me what happened (detailed) and send me pictures of the results. If you only want this mod and won't help me - just wait for the final release.
    I will upload a preview video in some time!
    And here's the video! It doesn't show anything special. I made a 20% race at Melbourne and captured some of the moments.
    EDIT 2:
    I included 50 flashbacks @ all difficulties.
    EDIT 3:
    AI Technical Retirements Fixed.
    Now the top drivers won't get retired every race because of technical problems. The backmarkers have a lot bigger chance to get a technical problem and the top teams have the lowest chance.​
    Rebalanced all drivers to match their in-real performance.
    I changed a few more things to driver/team performance so they match their real life performance.​
    EDIT 4:
    Out of Sight bug - FIXED
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  2. glight


    Wow looks pretty ambitious, a couple questions:

    how far off the pace are the back markers now? (I hope you haven't made them too powerful)

    can there be more than 2 retirements per race? (2 technical plus collisions/mistakes etc)
  3. daytona64


    Does the out-of-sight bug happen (ie do the cars go 2 seconds faster when they are not withion the vision of your car)
  4. Kristian Nenov

    Kristian Nenov

    2 technical and IF someone crashes heavily. When I was testing with the overtakes, 1 time they were so aggressive that I saw 2 cars taken out of trying to overtake each other. Now it is balanced. We usually don't see such things in real life. As for the backmarkers - for a 3 laps race as I remember the first backmarker was 10 seconds behind the car in front of him.

    I haven't seen this bug in the original game too. CM said they'll fix it for this version and I haven't tested it but I read somewhere that this happens only if you change the breaking point and cornering speed of the track which I haven't touched (at least on patch 1.2). If you tell me how I can test it - I'll take a look.
  5. David Katona

    David Katona

    Very Nice

    Can you increase the max retiremets?In real Formula 1 there are 3-4 retirements per race.
    Increase AI Agression.We want to see how they take out each other.And they can take out each other when overtaking!Ex Vettel and Webber in Turkey 2010.Increase mistakes!
  6. Kristian Nenov

    Kristian Nenov

    I looked some races to see how are the pit stops times and I made it in game like this:

    1) Red Bull: 2.9 - 4.0 sec
    2) Ferrari: 3.0 - 4.2 sec
    3) McLaren: 3.2 - 4.1 sec
    4) Mercedes: 3.2 - 4.1 sec
    5) Renault: 3.5 - 3.9 sec
    6) Force India: 3.7 - 4.4 sec
    7) Williams: 4.0 - 4.5 sec
    8) BMW Sauber: 4.2 - 4.5 sec
    9) Toro Rosso: 4.3 - 4.4 sec
    10) Lotus: 3,7 - 4,7 sec
    11) Virgin: 3,7 - 4,7 sec
    12) HRT: 3,7 - 4,7 sec

    Time of pit stops (2011 season). It's bad that there weren't shown any Virgin/HRT/Lotus pit stops.

    Williams: 4.0 / 4.2 / 4.3 / 4.5 / 4.3
    Red Bull: 4.0 / 3.6 / 3.3 / 4.0 / 3.7 / 3.5 / 4.2 / 3.1 / 2.9 / 3.7 / 3.6 / 3.8 / 3.3 / 3.6 / 2.7
    Ferrari: 3.3 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.1 / 3.0 / 3.4 / 3.0 / 3.7 / 4.1 / 3.6 / 4.5 / 3.4 / 3.3 / 3.2 / 3.2 / 4.1 / 4.6
    Mercedes: 4.5 / 3.9 / 4.0 / 4.1 / 4.0 / 3.6 / 3.4 / 3.3 / 3.7 / 4.0 / 3.2 / 4.0 / 3.0 / 4.1 / 3.4 / 3.7 / 3.3
    Renault: 4.5 / 3.8 / 3.6 / 3.8 / 3.7 / 3.6 / 3.5/ 3.9
    McLaren: 4.9 / 4.2 / 4.4 / 4.1 / 3.2 / 3.9 / 3.4 / 3.5 / 3.5 / 3.7 / 3.5 / 3.2 / 3.7 / 3.9 / 3.6 / 3.3 / 3.4 / 3.5 / 3.4
    Force India: 3.7
    Toro Rosso: 4.4 / 4.3
    BMW Sauber: 4.5 / 4.2
  7. Kristian Nenov

    Kristian Nenov

    It's insane the AI's to crash at every race. Now they have a little chance of crashing but it's not so high. When I made it extremely high this happend:

    I can high a little bit more than now but there will be many cars with broken wings which will force them to pit and the fight for the win will get a lot easier as your main opponents will be half a lap behind you. =/
  8. neuer31


    Seems to be a good mod...i will test it now
    So it is cool if you let us testing it
    And show a race like Monac...cause if you take Falcon444s Mod in Monaco you see EVERY ROUND a broken front wing (in real this not true)
  9. Kristian Nenov

    Kristian Nenov

    I've written in my first post that I need testers. Anyways, I just made a 10% race at Monaco and I saw flying parts only 1 time and no one pitted or retired so it's been a very small crash. I haven't tried to make the AI's reckless. The only mistakes they make are while trying to overtake but actually they happen quite often. I don't know why it was like this at Monaco, maybe they're driving more carefully there.

    And I have bad news. The out of sight bug IS working. I'm looking for a fix but without any luck. And when I actually think about this bug - it's not bad. Without it the AI's make 1.25-1.26 @ Australia when you can easily make 1.22-1.23 race pace (low fuel). Now it's harder to catch up but I'll look if I can find what controls it. Maybe if I find - I can make it just to deactivate not at 2 seconds gap but at for example 0,1 secs.

    Oh and by the way, last night before going to sleep I made my first 50% race with this mod. Played with Virgin as J.D'Ambrosio and had quite a fight! I finished behind the 2 Lotuses. The classification was:

    1. Vettel 43:59.716 - 1.29.808 (fastest lap)
    2. Button +7.542 - 1.30.140
    3. Massa +10.825 - 1.30.855
    4. Schumacher +11.176 - 1.30.947
    5. Di Resta +13.642 - 1.31.028
    6. Petrov +14.569 - 1.30.938
    7. Rosberg +15.457 - 1.30.843
    8. Hamilton +16.354 - 1.30.882
    9.Heidfeld +16.583 - 1.31.000
    10. Perez +17.094 - 1.30.917
    11. Kobayashi +17.823 - 1.30.944
    12. Sutil +19.049 - 1.31.356
    13. Maldonado +22.133 - 1.31.763
    14. Algersuari +27.245 - 1.31.875
    15. Buemi +49.466 - 1.31.604
    16. Barrichelo +53.876 - 1.31.315
    17. Kovalainen +1:32.271 - 1.33.561
    18. Trulli +1 lap - 1.33.449
    19. D'ambrosio +1 lap - 1.33.241 (ME)
    20. Kartikeyan +1 lap - 1.35.569
    21. Liuzzi +1 lap - 1.33.375
    22. Alonso DNF
    23. Glock DNF
    24. Webber DNF

    I don't know why they're so close to each other but I think it's a realistic classification. Alonso was fighting with Webber for a podium before they got DNF so Massa would be 5th, Schumi 6th, Di Resta 7th and etc etc etc. Oh and I don't know what happened to Hamilton too, I checked 6-7 laps before the end and he was 3rd and at the last lap when I saw - he was 8th. He made 2 pit stops as every other driver except Buemi and Liuzzi. Liuzzi broke his front wing at first lap and I don't know what has happened to Buemi.

    I need a few testers now because I don't have much time to do long races. I do only 10 or 20% races just to test how things work but it'd be a lot better if I could see results like this on more tracks and detailed information about what happened in the race.
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  10. Kartik Sri Harsha

    Kartik Sri Harsha

    I guess you made the much powerfull as Petrov fighting with Backmarkers what is his position in the race and Whats your's also the Lotus position

    The AI was fast and aggressive but in the video they are still breaking early at the DRS zone to give you position i guess if you change it then the out of sight bug arises
    Over all it looks good but i have some doubts
    1.How the Top tier performs in races ??
    2.Can AI Defend its position??(It wasn't there in the original game that's why i'm asking this)
    3.you haven't shown any retirements in your video so did you see any retirements when they are near to you we can't see other cars as it wasn't been implemented by CM to watch other cars
    4.Do the AI still slow after a safety car restart
    5.Will it causes Redflag ???
  11. Kartik Sri Harsha

    Kartik Sri Harsha

    The out of sight bug arises when you change the braking zones of cars
  12. zlep


    There is no chance to fix the out of sight bug. That's why all AI mods for F1 2011 are useless. Unfortunately.
    And without editing braking points and corner speed, the AI will never be on the same level like the player. They are way too slow.
  13. Kristian Nenov

    Kristian Nenov


    1. What do you mean by how it performs? They're obviously better than the other teams, but they're not more than a second faster (per lap).
    2. Well they don't block you, I haven't still started working on this.
    3. Retirements are something I'm looking to fix. Every race I get at least 2 or 3 retirements which is stupid because they're almost always from the top drivers.
    4. Haven't seen a safety car lately. I'm usually testing on 3 laps or 10%. I've done only a few 20%+ races.
    5. Red Flags are implemented in the original game, I don't have to add it.

    As for the early breakings - I've written I won't change it at least for now. Now I just want to make the AI more realistic not by lap times but only by reaction.

    I didn't understand you about Petrov. He's too strong or too weak from your point of view?

    I haven't edited the cornering speed and breaking zones and I still have it. I think I know from what this happens and we'll see if I'm right.
  14. Kartik Sri Harsha

    Kartik Sri Harsha

    I was thinking he was trying to lap them didn't he and if not he must had some kind of accident earlier in the game

    and PM me your files i will try to test them in the Career mode and also in GP Mode in tracks Monaco ,Singapore etc...

    I will only do 100% races and i will post the details and can't you make the top teams available for season1 just like F1 2011 Exciter Mod did ?????
  15. neuer31


    It seems to be a very good mod perhapsbetter than falcon444 mod
  16. zlep


    Every mod is better then falcon444s mod.
  17. neuer31


    I think only the mod not the whole package is good
  18. zlep


    His mod messes more up than it fixes. it also forces the out of sight bug, but he does not care and does even not mention it, so the most people don't know that this bug is in.
  19. Michael Sandee

    Michael Sandee

    @kristiannn.......He is talking about falcon444 not yours, he can't judge your mod yet since yours is not done.

    Anyways I will be glad to test yours out though, hook me up with a pm.
  20. Kristian Nenov

    Kristian Nenov

    AI Technical Retirements Fixed.
    Now the top drivers won't get retired every race because of technical problems. The backmarkers have a lot bigger chance to get a technical problem and the top teams have the lowest chance.​
    Rebalanced all drivers to match their in-real performance.
    I changed a few more things to driver/team performance so they match their real life performance.​
    Now here are some results from before the update. The guy who did the test was Kartik Sri Harsha.
    Here is report in Singapore P1 and all Q sessions i will post race report later today as i was a little busy in the morning
    In Grandprix Mode Singpore Marina Bay Street Circuit Dry weather with 100% race length and SC in on with Sebastian Vettel
    Mods :​
    1. imrpoved tires version and Improved track of Singapore
    2. This AI mod
    3. Damage level at 1.3 for all the cars
    Assists: Everything off except Traction control as i was playing with keyboard
    Difficulty: Legend
    Simulations and Damage: Tire and Fuel Sim on and Damage to Full
    Weather: Clear

    Practice 1:
    I decided to do only one Practice session in order to get a Overview of the track and breaking zones
    In p1 i saw the cars are trying to line up for passes in straights and getting some small amount of damage in turns especially in sector 2
    But they are trying to pass me and they succeeded i must say cos they are in options and i was in primes
    I saw Alguersuari caused a yellow flag at pit entrance he got spun and i saw it when i was crossed the Box turn and entering into pits So the cars are taking out themselves

    It was a good sign here

    I skipped to Qualifying session when the remaining time was 30 min
    Here are the Positions after P1
    1. S.Vettel - 1:38.824
    2.F.Alonso - 1:40.240
    3.L.Hamilton - 1:40.475
    4.J.Button - 1:40.491
    5.M.Webber -1:40.606
    6.N.Heidfeld - 1:40.993
    7.N.Rosberg - 1:41.001
    8.F.Massa - 1:41.115
    9.M.Schumacher -1:41.133
    10.P.DI Resta -1:41.399
    These are the top 10 in P1 and retirements after p1 are

    Now Qualification i started with primes to get the best time
    I saw Sutil retired at the end of S/F straight by colliding with Glock forcing both of them to retire and after that there are no retirements
    Q1 standings
    1.Ham -1:35.173
    Knockout zone:


    Started with options to go to Q3 and here i had some battle with Petrov and Button to get some free air they are also doing the same to get some good lap time
    it was a good improvement Mate
    I wish i can see it in race as it was a long race
    Unfortunately L.Hamilton was knocked out due to Di resta after a collision in the box turn making all of us to go slow But they get P13 and P14 after end of Q2

    Standings after Q2
    Knockout zone:
    Hamilton,Diresta,Buemi(I don't know about him i saw he was Retired in Race director)

    Shooot out and i was in middle of Petrov and webber and fought hard to overtake Petrov to get some clean air
    Button was the quickest among all of us
    Alonso used his DRS wing at the S/F straight begining and spun causing a Collison with Schumacher,perez,Massa and Kobayashi
    Alonso Massa Kobayashi and Schumacher posted lap times but Perez get completely retired and didn't posted laptime

    Q3 Standings
    1.Button -1:33.840
    10.Perez- --:--:---

    Retirements :
    Alonso Schumacher,Perez as you can see their Lap times

    My review :
    1.It was so far so good but i will test it how this things are carrying over in the race
    2.The AI was faster in some corners and i can see some debris in the track especially at the chicanes and Box turns
    3.The pace of bottom teams is good so don't change their pace
    but reduce the pace of Tier 3 as they are getting equal to tier 2 always
    4.I think due to the Damage Multiplier value of 1.3 the AI is getting retired rather than getting damaged as this track was a Closed street circuit but i want to test it in open tracks like Monza,Spa or Canada and check its details
    I will post another review after completing the race​