Polly to see how many people will buy F1 2011 - The Game
Sorry but none of what you have said whether its true or not justifies stealing the game.Reading over this whole thread. I realise these comments may be a bit late. Regarding piracy of games. I notice how a lot of people are keen to jump on others backs over it. Others claiming developers make very little money on games. That is a very valid point, but that is not down to piracy. That is down to publishers ripping them off and bending them over a barrel.
I can totally understand why people pirate games. Why pay for the same old crap over and over again. The games industry has shifted and the only people it's favouring are the publishers who only sanction titles which are safe sales. Gaming consoles have doomed gaming, we are shifting towards this locked down model with overpriced games. Micro-transactions for stuff that was once free on PC. Developers taking ideas from modding communities that once thrived and selling them to console gamers who know no better. Then only to totally lock out these modding communities.
There was a time when games weren't made to make money. They were made to be fun to play, a piece of art. While technology and development tools have progressed massively they have become very stale and boring very much like Hollywood.
F1 2010 was a pretty decent game but I can't help feel the whole thing stinks. The developers have sat down with a plan. How can they make people pay full price for their game year after year? By making something which can be improved on, by making a substandard game that is rushed rather than take the time to create a polished title. It's all about the money, they don't care about the consumer.
Don't jump on the bandwagon and hate people who openly admit to piracy. That is exactly what the multi millionaire business men want. I will always support indie developers who are risky and make a game that dares to be different. I know there are many people who feel the same way as me. But I can't help but feel that the newer generation of gamers are growing up in a gaming industry that is stale and will only get worse and they won't know any better.
Thats what is happenin bruv. On RD. No assists in WDC League 1 and TCS Med/ Auto only in League 2. League race and Club Races every week.I'm def gettin it on 360, just hope theres more lobbies that have assists off, like current f1, tcs,abs etc, wots that all about, made 2010 boring online, not enough people racin without assists!
Sorry but none of what you have said whether its true or not justifies stealing the game.
If you want it enough to play it pay for it.
Or be true to your values and get a community to make it just for fun and not for money.
You can't have it both ways and say they are all stale and then endorse stealing it.
An indie developer and a pirate (theif) are not the same thing so one does not justify the other.
Can you also give examples of what period and games you are talking about?
Because I remember IBM making their first PC in 1981 and playing Flight simulators in 1985.
My first race sim was on a PS1 in 97. Anecdotally it seems to me that the explosion in game console popularity has created a massive cashflow and industry that the PC gamer can ride on the back of with cut price (cheaper than console)editions which they can then mod.
In the end the customer is king and if not entertained will not spend the money and the cash flow dries up. So it is in fact all about the customer experience.
Exactly , also publish that on facebook , and yesterday after i pre ordered this game from shopto they changed the price and sent me an email to come and see the new price , they are the cheapest more than Steam or any other shop i checked on the net.Also shopto.net have lowered their price to £19.85 for the PC version.
You talk about the popularity of Consoles enabling the PC to ride on the back of with cut price. PC games were once way ahead of the console market, because no console could possibly compete. As the games industry has changed from lower profit higher innovation market into the sorry state we have today, we have seen games being ported across to the PC in the same locked down state as on the console.
The problem is that a lot of games are not released with a demo any more. Reviews of games are now worthless. Imagine if you paid to the cinema and realised you had to pay extra for a seat, otherwise you will have to stand or sit on the floor. You would argue that in the past you got your seat for free. It wouldn't be long before it became accepted that you pay for your seat, because society is too soft to stand for what's right.
I am not sure what you are getting at comparing an indie developer to a pirate? I never mentioned that. What I meant was that I will fully support Indie developers that make games for the right reasons, unlike developers backed by big name publishers who are forced to make stuff that sells, but is utter tripe.
I also never actually condoned piracy. I just said I understood why people turn to it. I don't see them as criminals. The only criminals are the people making the massive money.