What is the new horsepower limit for 2014

[jibawakee]

is it gonna be somewhere near 1000 like the 80s or is it still going to be from 700 to 800?

 

[Chris Brand]

600BHP with 161BHP from KERS

 

[jibawakee]

That's not that bad lol i was expecting 500 and 80 would still prefer the 1200BHP from the 70s

 

[Mark Gormley]

Is there actually a horsepower limit? i.e. if Merc squeeze 650 out of their 1.6 the FIA will put a restrictor on it?

 

[Chris Brand]

Is there actually a horsepower limit? i.e. if Merc squeeze 650 out of their 1.6 the FIA will put a restrictor on it?

It'll be restricted by McLaren's ECU

 

[Ole Marius Myrvold]

Nah, don't think so. If that had been the case, there wouldn't been the "crisis" reports that the Merc engines was so much more powerful than the rest.

More power and more torque will be using tyres harder though.

 

[kimiraik]

there's no horsepower limit.

 

[Chris Brand]

there's no horsepower limit.

Incorrect: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2013/8/14875.html

 

[kimiraik]

Incorrect: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2013/8/14875.html

i don't get it..i mean, they estimate the engines will produce 600 bhp, that's all..that's not a limit..if someone is so good as to get their engine to produce 610 or 620 or 630 bhp or so on, then congrats to them!

 

[Ole Marius Myrvold]

Incorrect: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2013/8/14875.html

I still fail to see where the rule enforced HP limit is.

 

[Chris Brand]

If there was no limit, the teams would be running 900+ BHP not 600

 

[Ole Marius Myrvold]

If there was no limit, the teams would be running 900+ BHP not 600

That is you adding you opinion/logic to it - not anything that is written down. That's quite a difference

 

[Chris Brand]

That is you adding you opinion/logic to it - not anything that is written down. That's quite a difference

It's more than opinion. It's common sense. If there was no limit around 600BHP the cars would be running 1000BHP next year. Unless you can give me a reason why you would pick 600BHP over 1000BHP.

Edit: However, according to this post: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/09/16/fia-to-guard-against-extreme-engines-in-2014/ the limit is imposed by fuel-flow limitations for next year, not an actual BHP limit. Because of the fuel-flow limit, there will be a theoretical maximum BHP (ie a 100% efficient engine which will not happen.)

 

[jibawakee]

It's more than opinion. It's common sense. If there was no limit around 600BHP the cars would be running 1000BHP next year. Unless you can give me a reason why you would pick 600BHP over 1000BHP.

Drive ability 600 is easier to drive assuming because i have not been in an f1 car

 

[Chris Brand]

Drive ability 600 is easier to drive assuming because i have not been in an f1 car

Drive ability comes from how well the power is transferred through the drivetrain and into the tarmac, not the actual power itself (obviously if you went for something crazy like 10,000BHP then it's different but at this level of HP...)

 

[jibawakee]

Safety maybe money im not sure

 

[Ole Marius Myrvold]

It's more than opinion. It's common sense. If there was no limit around 600BHP the cars would be running 1000BHP next year. Unless you can give me a reason why you would pick 600BHP over 1000BHP.

Edit: However, according to this post: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/09/16/fia-to-guard-against-extreme-engines-in-2014/ the limit is imposed by fuel-flow limitations for next year, not an actual BHP limit. Because of the fuel-flow limit, there will be a theoretical maximum BHP (ie a 100% efficient engine which will not happen.)

You answered yourself kinda there - and I guess you can easily say, that there are no 600 HP limit

 

[Chris Brand]

You answered yourself kinda there - and I guess you can easily say, that there are no 600 HP limit

By restricting the fuel flow, you also restrict the max bhp.

 

[Ole Marius Myrvold]

By restricting the fuel flow, you also restrict the max bhp.

Yup, with a theoretical maximum as you said. But that theoretical is not 600, and as the dev. progress we will get gradually more powerful engines.

My point was not that it was free for all, I just pointed out that there was no rule that limited the engines to 600.

 

[Chris Brand]

Yup, with a theoretical maximum as you said. But that theoretical is not 600, and as the dev. progress we will get gradually more powerful engines.

My point was not that it was free for all, I just pointed out that there was no rule that limited the engines to 600.

Fair enough. The FIA are also restricting development next year to stop the engines getting too efficient on the current fuel flow. They say next years lap times will be similar to this years.