WEC Support Series future Discussion

which 3 options interest you the most for next season's support series?

  • GT4 Support series with a seperate ginetta g40 junior spec class

  • GT4 Support series w/o ginetta GT4, including a seperate class with prototype light cars

  • GT4 Support series w/o ginetta GT4 (aston, bmw, toyota, mustang) and no other class

  • Randomized spec car every support race (track schedule will remain supporting WEC)

  • Ginetta GT4 spec class with seperate Radical RXC spec class

  • Touring car series- various options

  • Modern DTM class with a seperate classic DTM class

  • V8 supercar spec series

  • Modern stockar and classic stockar series

  • Pagani Zonda R spec series

  • Other (write suggestion in bold & underline text in thread response)

  • Radical SR pro-am cup series (sr3 for am, sr8 for pro)

  • Ginetta GT4 spec series

  • Renault Megane Trophy and RS01 trophy Series

  • Driver vote determines car for each support race (track schedule will remain supporting WEC)

  • Modern DTM spec series

  • GT1 series

  • LMP900/GT1 series


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Globespy

100RPM
We all have certain cars/tracks that we like more/are better at, so it's only natural that we gravitate towards those known factors in a competitive environment such as racing.
Personally, I've been thrown in to cars/tracks that I've little to no experience with, and whilst challenging (sometimes frustratingly so) I've ended up really enjoying these races, perhaps more than the GT3 cars that I know well.
Last night's DTM Mercedes race was brilliant. Never driven that car before, nor that track.

I'm suggesting more of the same, choosing the more obscure cars/tracks that no one uses/rarely uses (Megane V6 Trophy cup at Bannochbrae as an example) to force everyone out of their comfort zone.
To keep things fair (given personal bias will always play a factor), we could run a different car/track each support race that's chosen by the drivers, not the organizer - we all select a track/car and everyone has to race them. We use standardised settings such as real weather, real assists, time/tire progression for all races.
This would really shake up the series and force everyone to push their driving experience every week, gaining new experiences and insights into cars and tracks that are unknown.
There's enough regular drivers to allow this to happen, hoping others think this is a good idea.
Cheers.
 
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I also like changing it up and trying other cars/tracks Globe, I'm glad you are enjoying the races! I agree they are more fun and you can learn a lot more about Pcars physics too. The random races often make the game exciting again for me when it goes a bit stale. Last night was a blast, had epic wheel to wheel action with Braken and then when the 4 of us were bunched later on. Maybe if enough people want more random and crazy car/track pairings over one class, it'll possibly carry into next season from the current format, running a random car every other support race. Although I must admit it's not a great format for points. I wouldn't mind organizing a fully random car track championship, they are immensely fun (did @ prl with nova), but again that's not ideal for a support series.
Nothing is finalized yet obviously so a discussion on the next support series is welcome! It's been around 7 people average for races though, and I invite around 20 people (pcars regulars) to join every time. Not a great return so something can be adjusted there. Not exactly sure what scares away some of the main WEC racers (the leading ones in fact lol!) from coming to play most of the time but hopefully that will change next season.
 
and I like the drivers vote idea too, but that requires everyone to actually come and vote for each race's selections, which just doesn't happen here at least. Maybe a suggestion pool of good(no silly stuff) race cars/tracks can be recorded by organizers and then 3 of each are drawn for a poll choice to decide the support race that week.
unsure... voice ideas guys
 

2pfspiff

Xbox- SpiffPF2 PS4- Spiff2PF
Again I had a blast with the DTM car. Even with running last it was a good time. Turn out does seem to be an issue. I try to make what I can, but with my schedule it isn't easy.You could set up a poll before the start of the next support season for what cars and tracks to run. The key to getting it right is to make sure that the car and track pair up well. I think that the DTM cars pair well with tracks that aren't more then 1:30 to 2:00 min to get around (Short tracks). I would like to try some open wheel. Never drove a formula or indy car.
 

Michael Watts

XB1 Gamertag: michaei watts
Brian there is an Indy league in the XBox 1 Project Cars Section, run by @Rob on Saturday's. I'm probably going to get back into some Saturday races now that I'm all moved in.
 

2pfspiff

Xbox- SpiffPF2 PS4- Spiff2PF
Summer time is rough. If I can make it I will let you know and if there is an opening I will definitely be ready to race. Thanks for the update.
 

Peter Hooper

10000RPM
I really would like to get involved in this somehow. I've loved some of the car and track choices i've seen. You are sticking with the same day and start time I take it? I'll keep checking in here to keep tabs on things and try to find a way to get in at least some of the races once it all kicks off :thumbsup:
 
I really would like to get involved in this somehow. I've loved some of the car and track choices i've seen. You are sticking with the same day and start time I take it? I'll keep checking in here to keep tabs on things and try to find a way to get in at least some of the races once it all kicks off :thumbsup:
Yeah I wish you could make it Peter, it's annoying how bad the time difference is for these... it will still be the same day but the time could maybe be stretched. Not sure how many people it effects if it started say an hour earlier. It would be great to have you in some of these and I know you'd love some of the combos haha. It just gets so late for guys in Europe which is no good on a weekday.
 

Michael Watts

XB1 Gamertag: michaei watts
Peter, I wouldn't mind setting up some kind of spec series for Saturday Mornings EST. Don't know how that would pan out for you being 5 hours ahead but its something Me and Toast could do. I don't want to interfere with Robert's Series in the evenings. But Saturday Mornings say 9am EST would be my only other option. We could have a Separate "Drivers Choice Series" Pick a Track and a Spec Car and race it every Saturday Morning. Voting would last from Saturday to Wednesday.
 

2pfspiff

Xbox- SpiffPF2 PS4- Spiff2PF
Just want to gauge main interest for when we fully develop the support schedule later this year.
I think all of the choices you have up there are great ideas. The voting one would be a little rough being that their are only a handful of people that truly contribute to this forum.
 

Michael Watts

XB1 Gamertag: michaei watts
Here is a look at Season 3's possible schedule. Obviously your votes will effect the cars that run at these tracks...
1. Watkins Glen GP: 2 hrs
1. Watkins Glen Short: 45 mins (GT4 class)
2. Brands Hatch GP: 1 hour
2. Oulton Park Full: 45 mins ( GT4 Class )
3. Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya GP: 1 hour
3. Bannochbrae: 45 mins ( Ginetta GT4 Spec)
4. Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps: 2 hours
4. Zolder: 45 mins (GT4 Class)
5. Rouen Les Essarts: 1 hour
5. Le Circuit Bugatti: 45 mins (GT4 Class)
6. Le Mans: 2 hours
6. Azure Circuit: 45 mins (Ginetta GT4 Spec)
7. Hockenhiem Classic: 2 hours
7. Nurburgring Sprint Short: 45 mins (GT4 Class)
8. Nurburgring Nordschliefe Combined: 1 hour
8. Oschersleban National: 45 mins ( Ginetta GT4 Spec)
9. Imola: 1 hour
9. Monza short: 45 mins ( Ginetta GT4 Spec)
10. Road America: 1 hour
10. Laguna Seca: 45 mins (GT4 Class)
11. Sonoma GP: 1 hour
11. Sonoma Short: 45 mins (GT4 Class)
12. Sakitto GP: 2 hours
12. Sakitto Sprint : 45 mins (GT4 Class)
13. Zhuhai: 1 hour
13. Sakitto National: 45 mins (Ginetta GT4 Spec)
14. Ruapuna GP: 1 hour
14. Ruapuna Club: 45 mins (GT4 Spec)
15. Bathurst: 1 hour
15. Ruapuna Outerloop: 45 mins ( Ginetta GT4 Spec)
16. Dubai GP: 2 hours
16. Dubai Club: 45 mins (GT4 Class)
 

Peter Hooper

10000RPM
Peter, I wouldn't mind setting up some kind of spec series for Saturday Mornings EST. Don't know how that would pan out for you being 5 hours ahead but its something Me and Toast could do. I don't want to interfere with Robert's Series in the evenings. But Saturday Mornings say 9am EST would be my only other option. We could have a Separate "Drivers Choice Series" Pick a Track and a Spec Car and race it every Saturday Morning. Voting would last from Saturday to Wednesday.
It would be quite tough for me at that time... as it would be right slap bang in the middle of the day here and Saturdays are usually a busy day family wise. Especially so in the Summer where we like to get out and about as much as possible. But i'll keep my eyes on the news and see how it could fit :thumbsup:
 

Peter Hooper

10000RPM
Yeah I wish you could make it Peter, it's annoying how bad the time difference is for these... it will still be the same day but the time could maybe be stretched. Not sure how many people it effects if it started say an hour earlier. It would be great to have you in some of these and I know you'd love some of the combos haha. It just gets so late for guys in Europe which is no good on a weekday.
Don't make it in anyway awkward for the other guys Nic. I'll await the schedule and see whether there's anyway I can squeeze any in. It is tough due to work the next day but also in terms of noise in the middle of the night, you know how noisy the wheel scan get when going over those kerbs at times and chat would have to be minimal my end or the wife and daughter would probably be kept awake lol. Even if I could just fit in the odd one here and there I would love to do that.

As i'm not going to be able to be a regular I wont join in the vote as it would't be fair to skew any results.
 
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Michael Watts

XB1 Gamertag: michaei watts
2016 Fall Brawl GT4 Series
This Series will be closely designed to mirror the GT4 Career mode. Races will be every other week, and will utilize the tracks in the GT4 Career mode. Due to Balance of Performance issues only these cars are available to run:
GT4 Class Eligible cars:
-Aston Martin Rapide S hydrogen
-Aston Martin V8 Vantage GT4
-BMW M3 GT4
-Ford Mustang Boss 302R1
-Toyota GT86 GT4

Races:
-Qualifying Session 20 mins
-Warm Up 5 mins
-Sprint Race, Standing Start
***Separate session *****So don't leave******
-Main Event with Inverted field (Top 10) from Sprint Race (Standing start and Parade lap to put everyone in position)
( Sprint Race x2 length, Mandatory Pit for tires No fuel required, so plan accordingly)


Conditions:
No Forced View
No Forced Transmission
No Forced Default Setups
Weather will be Career Mode Weather
Damage: Performance Impacting
Tire Wear: 2x in Main Event
Real Assists
Mechanical Breakdowns: On.


Schedule:
Asian Pacific Block
1. Dubai International (PRE SEASON) Sept 28th (Clear)
2. Sakitto International Oct 5th (Heavy Cloud)
3. Bathurst Oct 19th (Med Cloud)
Euro and UK Block
4. Hockenheim National Nov 2nd (Clear)
5. Imola Nov 16th ( Medium cloud/ Setting Sun)
6. Motorsport Arena Oschersleben GP Nov 30th (Heavy Cloud/ Thunderstorm)
7. Brands Hatch GP Dec 14th (TBD)
8. Oulton Park International Dec 21st (TBD)
****** Winter Break ******

US Block
9. Watkins Glen Short Jan 11th (TBD)
10. Sonoma Short Jan 25th (TBD)

Points:

1st--24pts
2nd-20pts
3rd-18pts
4th-16pts
5th-14pts
6th-12pts
7th-10pts
8th--9pts
9th--8pts
10th-7pts
11th-6pts
12th-5pts
13th-4pts
14th-3pts
15th-2pts
16th-1pt
Bonus points +1 for Pole +2 fastest lap
 
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Michael Watts

XB1 Gamertag: michaei watts
Driver Roster
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1. MichaeI Watts / Ford Mustang- #51
2. Dalai Toma / TBA
3. SpiffPF2 / Aston Martin GT4- #100
4. HRH Racing / TBA
5. soechri1337 /Aston Martin GT4- #
6. EpilepticToast / Aston Martin GT4- # 19
7. Stalliano / TBA
8. Haveblue / Aston Martin GT4- #70
9. Zarf/ Toyota Gt-86- #99
10. FoolishSwami/ BMW M3 GT4- #42
11. Xprokill3r21/ Aston Martin GT4- #
12. Hateworldwide/ Aston Martin GT4- #18
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