Type of acceleration ???

[Sebastien Levret]

Hello,

I drive actually the seat leon for the WTCC, but before that I tried the BMW but I was always in trouble during the acceleration.

For this kind of car (BMW), when and how the best driver take a turn ? At what moment starting the acceleration (in the middle of the turn or at the end) ? And did they accelerate progressively or not ?

Thanks a lot !
Seb

 

[Kyrill Verheij]

http://www.racelinecentral.com/RacingSetupGuide.html that first picture should help a little bit

[media]http://www.geocities.com/prohibition_us/perfectcorner1.gif[/media] should also help you a little bit

 

[Mailson Pereira]

regardless the car the best way is almost always the one above/

 

[Sebastien Levret]

Thanks Kyrill,
I am a beginner and all you advice are a good think for me.

 

[Kyrill Verheij]

No thanks google is my friend

My tactick is when I'm practicing i try to acclerate as soon as possible, when thats not possible i try it again but then a tiny bit later.. till I get the right corner, But I like that.. maybe it suxs Im not a top-expert at racing sorry

But yust keep practicing.. thats the best way to learn a track the more you practicing the better you drive

 

[Jean Michel Rucheton]

Yep, the RWD BMW is less forgiving than the Seat when you get on the gas coming out of turns. With the FWD Seat (or the Peugeot in WTCC '06 class), you can nail the gas without fear of losing the rear.

So easier to control but front wheels tire wear can be... hehe... a little problematic during an endurance race...

Ultimately though, RWD cars demand a little more smoothness and driving them will help you become a better driver. :laugh2:

 

[Kyrill Verheij]

I think you can better begin whit a fwd and after a time you can drive good go try rwd, cause its much harder the bmw..

The only problem I got whit fwd is that my tyres are getting worn at lap 10, my tyres are getting 110 left and 100 right xD so a little problem for me

 

[Gaëtan Legastelois]

Edit : See your private message i give you some advice in french.

 

[Kevin Ascher]

This is an English forum, isn't it?

 

[Gaëtan Legastelois]

Upps sorry, i've send a private message to sebastien levret with the contain of my post.

 

[Kevin Ascher]

All right
Sorry I was a bit offending

 

[Reik Major]

With the FWD Seat (or the Peugeot in WTCC '06 class), you can nail the gas without fear of losing the rear.

Right. But you should tell a beginner that it won't make him faster. Even a FWD car has to be controlled smooth, also on the gas. Because if you nail the gas from the middle of a narrow first gear turn, the front wheels will loose grip and pull you out of the corner in a straight line, before the turn ends. So you also have to accelerate progressivly. But not the much carefull and progressive like with a RWD, that's right.

 

[Sebastien Levret]

Right. But you should tell a beginner that it won't make him faster. Even a FWD car has to be controlled smooth, also on the gas. Because if you nail the gas from the middle of a narrow first gear turn, the front wheels will loose grip and pull you out of the corner in a straight line, before the turn ends. So you also have to accelerate progressivly. But not the much carefull and progressive like with a RWD, that's right.

Ok thank you, actually i didn't accelerate progressivly. I will try to do it like you said that maybe why I go offen out of the track.

 

[Jean Michel Rucheton]

Right. But you should tell a beginner that it won't make him faster. Even a FWD car has to be controlled smooth, also on the gas. Because if you nail the gas from the middle of a narrow first gear turn, the front wheels will loose grip and pull you out of the corner in a straight line, before the turn ends. So you also have to accelerate progressivly. But not the much carefull and progressive like with a RWD, that's right.

When I said 'nail the gas', i may have exaggerated... lol

I just meant that the difference between the BMW and the SEAT when you get on the gas coming out of a turn is quite significant and that what you can get away with in the SEAT definitely won't cut it with a powerful RWD... :Banane15:

 

[Sebastien Levret]

When I said 'nail the gas', i may have exaggerated... lol

I just meant that the difference between the BMW and the SEAT when you get on the gas coming out of a turn is quite significant and that what you can get away with in the SEAT definitely won't cut it with a powerful RWD... :Banane15:

I made some practise with the seat, and it is quite better to accelerate progressively at the end of a turn.
Thank you.

 

[Ries Notenboom]

A good way to learn if your using the right lines and hit the throttle fast enough is to use time trial. Set it so that you can see your racing line and your ghost and then try to get faster then yourself time and time again by trying out different lines and tweaking your setup after you get consistent.

I tend to use this a lot and it is a very easy way to see where I am either loosing or winning those .100 or .010 of seconds on the track.

Download a time trial from others as well so you can see there lines and where they are faster or slower.

 

[Jean Michel Rucheton]

A good way to learn if your using the right lines and hit the throttle fast enough is to use time trial. Set it so that you can see your racing line and your ghost and then try to get faster then yourself time and time again by trying out different lines and tweaking your setup after you get consistent.

I tend to use this a lot and it is a very easy way to see where I am either loosing or winning those .100 or .010 of seconds on the track.

Download a time trial from others as well so you can see there lines and where they are faster or slower.

This is very true. When I began playing GTR evo, I learned a lot from racing against my ghost and trying different trajectories, different braking points and different gear shifting.

Getting a time trial from somebody else that is faster than you is also interesting but make sure it is with the same car than you're driving or at least a similar one. To evaluate how you are really doing on a track and help you improve you don't want to race against the ghost of a car with much more or much less horse power than you, different characteristics etc... Your race line may end up being different depending on the type of car you're driving, as will your gearing and definitely your braking points.

 

[Wojtek Potoczek]

The theory is always that easy... it's totally different when you practice or even more when you compete, when you feel the pressure of other driver who is pushing you on each corner...

 

[Jean Michel Rucheton]

The theory is always that easy... it's totally different when you practice or even more when you compete, when you feel the pressure of other driver who is pushing you on each corner...

You're right but are we talking about racing here? :wink2: We're talking about fundamentals without which it is difficult to race, let alone control your car and be fast on a track on your own. This is why a beginner must practice over and over again, run a lot of laps with different cars on different tracks until he doesn't have to think any more about these things...

Obviously, when you're racing you have other things to concentrate on... :dance2:

 

[Sebastien Levret]

Obviously, when you're racing you have other things to concentrate on... :dance2:

Yes, you are right, a other point is to be concentrated during all a race in order to stay on the track. This is also difficult for the beginner but with pratcise it will become easier...