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TOE IN/OUT

Nov 16, 2008
9,570
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Hello,

Have you notice some modification of the behavior with the parameters Toe in/out for the seat ?
Because I try to modify it, but i didn't see major change.

Thank you.
 
M

Matt Alpeter

did you look at the temps of your tires? I'm sure they changed a LOT
 

João Andias

500RPM
Sep 14, 2008
834
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Have you notice some modification of the behavior with the parameters Toe in/out for the seat ?
Because I try to modify it, but i didn't see major change.

Don't move much away from "stock" settings... sure then your car might turn in better into a corner, but then your tires go away much faster ;)

Btw, I've seen very unsymmetrical setups to toe in/out...
I wonder if those are effective in anyway (well maybe to correct a very unstable/unbalanced car, but then again, I would go by another “route”)?
 

Lee Downham

1000RPM
Jun 16, 2008
1,970
1
Whilst I am here though ... toe in / out should change how well the front wheels turn into a corner, but at the expense of speed and tyre wear:
More negative toe in, more "grip" but slower straight line speed and more tyre wear
Less negative toe in, less grip but more straight line speed and less tyre wear

EDIT: Try Oschesleben, take the toe-in to 0 and drive, then put it to around -1.0 and drive again - you should notice a difference. If not, maybe soften the front suspension / ARB a bit and try again - you should feel a difference there mate.
 
Nov 16, 2008
9,570
80
did you look at the temps of your tires? I'm sure they changed a LOT
I notice some modifications of the temperature. For the rear wheels, with a Toe in (positive value), the temperature of the wheels lost 5°C. For the front wheels, the temperature decrease also, but less than 5°C (with a Toe in).
But it was more easy to turn with a Toe Out (negative value) for the front wheels.
 
Nov 16, 2008
9,570
80
Whilst I am here though ... toe in / out should change how well the front wheels turn into a corner, but at the expense of speed and tyre wear:
More negative toe in, more "grip" but slower straight line speed and more tyre wear
Less negative toe in, less grip but more straight line speed and less tyre wear

EDIT: Try Oschesleben, take the toe-in to 0 and drive, then put it to around -1.0 and drive again - you should notice a difference. If not, maybe soften the front suspension / ARB a bit and try again - you should feel a difference there mate.
Thanks you for these information
 

Luc Mangas

500RPM
Nov 12, 2008
853
0
Well, my latest testing showed no difference for the rear Toe In: I tried 0° till 1°, nada, zip, nothing. It's maybe me...
 

Lee Downham

1000RPM
Jun 16, 2008
1,970
1
Minis tend to be fairly sensitive to rear toe at certain tracks, maybe try to take one to Cadwell and adjust the rear toe from 0.0 to 1.0 and see what happens
 
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Andrew Evans

yow! all setup threads should come with a bonus picture special! :flypig: