The SimFeedback-AC DIY Motion Simulator thread

[sjb266]

Hey guys. Thought I’d create a thread for those taking the plunge into this brilliant DIY project..
I will be starting mine soon and I know there are others thinking about it.. so feel free to share your knowledge and experiences so we can all enjoy this platform to its full potential. A huge thanks to the developers who have really knocked this one out of the park!

Website: https://opensfx.com/2019/02/20/welcome-to-our-new-site/

Github: https://github.com/SimFeedback/SimFeedback-AC-Servo/wiki

For all the internals for the actuator contact Amy - skye@ntl-bearing.com
She can supply everything you need. Just remind her you want the ends of the shafts chamfered and make sure she sends the right sized ball screw - we have had a couple of issues reported. She is very helpful though and the cost is pretty good.


Huge thanks to @RowanH for writing a comprehensive user guide which can be accessed here - https://www.rowanhick.com/sfx-100-build-and-running-guide

In addition, @anton_Chez has contributed a list of post numbers for some of the important settings etc..
Post #320 SFX-100 thread
Post #327 SFX-100 thread for Discord correlation
Post #339 SFX-100 thread
Post #418 SFX-100 thread
Post #424 SFX-100 thread
Post #439 SFX-100 thread
Post #449 SFX-100 thread
Post #517 SFX-100 thread
Post #554 SFX-100 thread
Post #580 SFX-100 thread
Post #826 SFX-100 thread
Post #837 SFX-100 thread
Post #864,866,867,868,870,887,889,897 SFX-100 thread
Post #911,914 SFX-100 thread
Post #988,992,998 SFX-100 thread
Post #1147 SFX-100 thread
Post #1492 SFX-100 thread
Post #1511,1517 SFX-100 thread

I will try to keep this page updated with links to source the parts in other parts of the world. Just post whatever links you have and i'll add them here.

Please note: Not all the parts listed below are essential for the project. For the essential parts refer to the original shopping list.

Australia:

• O-Ring - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kit-419Pcs-O-Ring-O-Ring-Black-Rubber-32-Sizes-With-Case-3-50mm-W8D7/223152697816?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
• D-Sub breakout board - DB25 25pin Female Adapter RS-232 Serial Terminal Module Breakout Board Connector
• Emergency Stop - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Reliable-Emergency-Stop-Push-Button-Box-600V-Switch-for-Elevator/192115082001?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
• Arduino Wiring - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40-pcs-Dupont-Cable-20cm-Jumper-Wire-for-Arduino-RPi-breadboard-AU-Stock/202436863098?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=502467628096&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
• Breadboard - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mini-Solderless-Breadboard-400-Contacts-Tie-points-Universal-Available-New-lemon/123145741183?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
• D-Dub Cable - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Black-D...h=item3f6ace6403:g:038AAOSw9mpaSsU2:rk:1:pf:0
• Screw Shield for Arduino Leonardo - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Scr...h=item25a9d471a4:g:5BgAAOSwraJbc9rC:rk:1:pf:0
• Arduino Leonardo Replica - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DIY-Eduino-Leonardo-Module-with-USB-Cable-for-Arduino-ATMEGA32U4-Blue-Black/132719951279?epid=916281063&hash=item1ee6b9bdaf:g:2QUAAOSw5iNbWv6b:rk:123f:

Thanks to @AussieSim for the following links:

10A power lead(s) * 4
https://www.jaycar.com.au/2m-black-mains-extension-lead/p/PS4152

Top quality wire stripper
https://sydneytools.com.au/product/boxo-cutws205-multifunction-wire-stripper

RCD/safety switch power block
https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-4-outlet-heavy-duty-portable-safety-switch_p4420028

WD-40 lithium grease for the ball screws
https://www.bunnings.com.au/wd-40-specialist-300g-high-performance-white-lithium-grease_p6100408

Vibration pads
https://www.bunnings.com.au/whites-on-site-100-x-12-5mm-rubber-anti-vibration-mat-4-pack_p3961547

WD-40 Dry PTFE spray for the slider (free shipping)
https://au.rs-online.com/mobile/p/lubricants/7577134/

Arduino Leonardo (free shipping + frequent 10-15% off discount)
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/a000057/arduino-corporation

DB25 cables * 4 (free shipping)
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/ak401-2/assmann-wsw-components-inc

PETG * 3 (free shipping)
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/petg17bk1/mg-chemicals

WAGO-like connectors to avoid a breadboard (perhaps use genuine ones if you are doing 240V AC)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32906719488.html

D-Sub breakout boards * 4
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32297675967.html

3D printer Creality Ender-3 Pro
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32918302452.html

Wires from Arduino to D-Sub breakout (remove black plastic from the WAGO end)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32887680826.html

Crimp connectors for AC wire leads
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32813550981.html

 

[Jasje]

The samsung 49" is basically a metal plate with the display fixed on it. If you mount it right and adjust your speed and acceleration accordingly you shouldn't have any issues.

Did you open your monitor? I have a small rattling noise and I would like to check it out but I can't seem to get it open. Did you buy a special tool?

 

[Moxley6969]

Just to clarify this list is for the NTL product correct? So with the exchange this would come out to $334 CAD and the cheapest I found on Aliexpress totaled $510 Canadian so for me it looks like NTL would be the way to go if above is the NTL prices. And can I just send the part names listed above and they will know exactly what I need or do you have specific part numbers?

Yup they know exactly what we are after with as many order's as they have filled for all of us.

510$ is just an example of how you have to Scour the ali Site and multiple sellers to get the lowest costs, unfortunately the shipping adds up when dealing with multiple sellers. So the lot buy from 1 seller is By FAR the best situation.

 

[Freeon]

Excellent, I just sent for a price request. Now anyone have a North American contact for item24. I put in a request true their website a week ago and still haven't heard back.

 

[Moxley6969]

Excellent, I just sent for a price request. Now anyone have a North American contact for item24. I put in a request true their website a week ago and still haven't heard back.

Where are you located ? I happen to have a location local to me and will be visting this week sometime.

baljeet@itemcentral.ca
item Central
28 Keewatin St.
Winnipeg, MB R3E 3B9
Canada
www.itemcentral.ca

 

[Freeon]

Where are you located ? I happen to have a location local to me and will be visting this week sometime.

baljeet@itemcentral.ca
item Central
28 Keewatin St.
Winnipeg, MB R3E 3B9
Canada
www.itemcentral.ca

I'm in New Brunswick.

 

[Tronicgr_6DOF]

Dirt cheap...

** link edited out...

 

[EsxPaul]

Dirt cheap...

Online Shop 90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A | Aliexpress Mobile_en title

90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A on sale at reasonable prices, buy 90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A from...

m.aliexpress.com

Wow, that's the cheapest I've seen yet by far. £478 for 4 units with delivery

 

[Dennis Karlsson]

Dirt cheap...

Online Shop 90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A | Aliexpress Mobile_en title

90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A on sale at reasonable prices, buy 90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A from...

m.aliexpress.com

Can I use two of those for TL and surge with my SFX-100?

 

[leeroy605]

Is that the same motor as the one for the SFX 100? Want one to add for a belt tensioner setup.

I know the 90ST part is the same but the M04025 is different from the M02430 of the SFX motor + driver. Does it matter?

 

[eSEA One]

Dirt cheap...

Online Shop 90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A | Aliexpress Mobile_en title

90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A on sale at reasonable prices, buy 90ST-M04025 220V 1000W AC Servo motor 4N. m 2500RPM 1KW servomotor Eenfase ac drive permanente magneet Matched Driver AASD-20A from...

m.aliexpress.com

This motor is a bit different it is 1000W and 4N (the one on the shopping list is 90ST-M02430 75W and 2.4NM ) The question is will it be ok? I would think it would be but maybe the settings might need adjusting

 

[eSEA One]

Ah! there one concern it's speed is lower 2500 RPM (3000RPM for the listed)
Another thing is it is single phase, which I dont think is any concern on the listed one just the single phase is used.

 

[Tronicgr_6DOF]

Sorry guys. I should have double checked it before posting, that seller is a scam.

So the only verified good lowest price AASD drive/motor is still this one:

253.32€ 40% OFF|400W/750W Ac 220V Servo Motor Drive Set 3000Rpm 1. 27nm/2.39Nm 80ST M02430/60ST M01330 RS485 3/5/10M Kabel 2500 Lijn 60Mm/80mm|AC Motor| - AliExpress

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

www.aliexpress.com

 

[Furnace Inferno]

I mean once you factor in the cost of shipping it’s only £18 less per unit, really not worth the saving not using the ones which have been tested, are known to work and have good motor settings. Then you also need to factor in the considerable saving you get in custom charges from the one in the official link (can’t remember his name right now).

The motor is the most important thing so really don’t understand why people are skimping on it for really minimal savings.

 

[Tronicgr_6DOF]

I mean once you factor in the cost of shipping it’s only £18 less per unit, really not worth the saving not using the ones which have been tested, are known to work and have good motor settings. Then you also need to factor in the considerable saving you get in custom charges from the one in the official link (can’t remember his name right now).

The motor is the most important thing so really don’t understand why people are skimping on it for really minimal savings.

For the same reason people skimping building the SFX100 actuators instead buying ready commercial ones...

Apart the joke, its still considerable cost for the average gamer...

 

[EsxPaul]

Sorry guys. I should have double checked it before posting, that seller is a scam.

Thanks for verifying. A price too good to be true, I guess.

 

[Furnace Inferno]

For the same reason people skimping building the SFX100 actuators instead buying ready commercial ones...

Apart the joke, its still considerable cost for the average gamer...

I mean £3500 vs. £72 is hardly comparable and as I said the customs charge will actually make it a lot closer. Also I’m sorry but that £72 of a £1500-£2000 build is nothing and not average gamer price anyway, neither is a DD wheel or 80/20 rig to support it all!

Then there is also the fact that a lot of us enjoy doing DIY projects so it’s not just about cost.

 

[Freeon]

I contacted skye@ntl-bearing.com. and got response from Amy so looks like she is still the contact. Gave me a quote for everything and asked if I needed the motors and drives as well. I guess she knew what I was building. I haven't heard anyone mentioning they bought motors from NTL. Is there an issue with there motors or did they just start selling them? She quoted me $145.00 USD each which is the lowest I have seen by far. She listed them as :

1 x 90ST-M02430 220V 750W Servo Motor （Version A/B Optional）

1 x AASD-15A Driver

1 x 3 Meter Motor Cable

1 x 3 Meter Encoder Cable

1 x 25 Pin Centronics Connector

 

[anton_Chez]

As far as I can tell, that's the motor.

Hmmm, wonder if NTL will get a cease and desist for packaging together SFX-100 parts and selling them for profit?

 

[eSEA One]

I contacted skye@ntl-bearing.com. and got response from Amy so looks like she is still the contact. Gave me a quote for everything and asked if I needed the motors and drives as well. I guess she knew what I was building. I haven't heard anyone mentioning they bought motors from NTL. Is there an issue with there motors or did they just start selling them? She quoted me $145.00 USD each which is the lowest I have seen by far. She listed them as :

1 x 90ST-M02430 220V 750W Servo Motor （Version A/B Optional）

1 x AASD-15A Driver

1 x 3 Meter Motor Cable

1 x 3 Meter Encoder Cable

1 x 25 Pin Centronics Connector

Let us know how you get on.

 

[Freeon]

As far as I can tell, that's the motor.

Hmmm, wonder if NTL will get a cease and desist for packaging together SFX-100 parts and selling them for profit?

Just curious. Why would they get a cease and desist?