The MP4-12C

[Austin Ogonoski]

The most anticipated car in build 0.3 gained a bit of a mixed reaction over at the official AC forums.

Here are some "quick" times to shoot for:
1:53.9xx at Imola with Semislicks & the default setup, third lap ever in that combo.
1:18.888 at Magione with Semislicks & the default setup, fifth lap ever in that combo.

McLaren stuffed it with a bunch of fancy electronic aids that default to "On." Don't turn them off and then complain the car is too hard to drive or slides too much.

My biggest complaint is that the car seems 10x better than the 458 Italia in all aspects, giving me almost no reason to drive the 458 if online were to become available today. Is the MP4-12c truly leaps and bounds ahead of the 458 in real life, or are the 458's physics still heavily WIP?

 

[Austin Ogonoski]

Demo lap for those struggling with the car:

And the current world record (sorry stabiz):

 

[Chris]

I find the 458 more enjoyable. The fast gear changes, rear end, and the sound is better (Not to mention it's much better looking!)

Even if the Mclaren is fundamentally faster, I'd still take the Ferrari.

To me, it feels like Kunos have really accurately replicated the way Top Gear feel about the two: the Mclaren is a great car, but the Ferrari just a bit more special.

 

[Stelios]

I find the 458 more enjoyable. The fast gear changes, rear end, and the sound is better (Not to mention it's much better looking!)

Even if the Mclaren is fundamentally faster, I'd still take the Ferrari.

To me, it feels like Kunos have really accurately replicated the way Top Gear feel about the two: the Mclaren is a great car, but the Ferrari just a bit more special.

I feel differently, i would prefer to buy the ferrari in real life if i could, but in the sim the 12C feels , and it is, an improved 458. It gives me a feeling of a german ferrari if you know what i mean. Not to mention its a lot faster.

 

[DennS]

I think this sums it up perfectly...

 

[stabizisback]

Nice lap, Austin, and nice to see that you didnt use the lame line at 1:09 despite using traction control.

I will give it another go today.

 

[Arkadiusz Wawrzyniak]

Demo lap for those struggling with the car:

And the current world record (sorry stabiz):

How do you know it is a world record. And secondly, holy ****, that is some crazy fast lap time. I did only 7-8 laps on Imola and managed high 1,53.

 

[Terry Evers]

How do you know it is a world record. And secondly, holy ****, that is some crazy fast lap time. I did only 7-8 laps on Imola and managed high 1,53.

Leaderboard App

http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/rivali-tempo-v2-live-leaderboard.3215/

 

[Arkadiusz Wawrzyniak]

Leaderboard App

http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/rivali-tempo-v2-live-leaderboard.3215/

link does not work

 

[betterstranger]

I wrote about it million times... The Mp4-12c from AC is in the newest iteration of this car which means - tweaked/reprogrammed systems and more power. All old McLarens Mp4-12c are allowed to get those modifications which is a nice move from McLaren.
It's much more refined car now then when it went on sale. The mp4-12c from beginning of production was just a little bit slower than 458 on track (or sometimes just a little bit faster).
Now it is surely faster than 458 Italia and fair opponent to it is Ferrari's newest 458 Special with -90kg, 600hp and many other upgrades.

 

[Terry Evers]

link does not work

Have to sign up for the AC forum in order to view the post

 

[Arkadiusz Wawrzyniak]

Have to sign up for the AC forum in order to view the post

I am, and loged in as well. Racedepartment error "No more advertisements, access to exclusive features and help us to pay for our monthly server bills."

 

[Chris]

I am, and loged in as well. Racedepartment error "No more advertisements, access to exclusive features and help us to pay for our monthly server bills."

You're seeing that because you're running Adblock.

Just disable it for Racedepartment and you'll be fine.

 

[ENDR]

OR you could just make the effort of highlighting and copying that link...
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/rivali-tempo-v2-live-leaderboard.3215/

 

[stabizisback]

52.1xx.

The car is much faster with TC.

 

[Kristóf Kerekes]

I've been having fun with the McLaren for the past day. I don't really get what people meant by being fastest with smooth driving. I've been around the Silverstone GP and Magione (where I hold WR currently), and I got around the fastest by sliding the car on 4 wheels most of the time. I know there is a lot more to exploit in those laps, but I can't imagine being faster on Magione with a fully gripped, no slipping and totally smooth run. I just feel like it asks for some 4 wheel drifts. Also, the slides are really catchable and I didn't feel confused by that so called open diff, that others mentioned. It just drives like anything else, a bit more challenging though.

 

[Stelios]

Some thing i want to mention (damn this sim is pleasantly surprising me all the time), on this exact time 6:13 of this video :

, he said about the braking that it is nervous on the brakes and squirms around. I get the _EXACT_ same thing when braking. Damn it Kunos.

 

[Leemstradamus]

I wonder if they have the carbon brakes on it or steel ones. On my speakers very faintly when I break I hear the breaks squeal.

 

[Austin Ogonoski]

52.1xx.

;_;

 

[Qazdar Karim]

When i first tested the mclaren ,the first question that came to my mind was : why the hell would you make a fast car that yo ucan't control at high speed ?
The car is made to be driven smoothly !

 

[Angus Leggate]

The MP4 is a particular car. It demands to be driven as intended by its engineers.

Hi, can you tell us which of the systems on the real car are modelled in AC at this stage, please? In particular I'm interested in the ProActive chassis control and the 'brake steer system'. How does the 12C's Brake Steer system compare to the 458's E-Diff system in terms of modelling in AC? Thanks for any details you can provide.