Starforce and Windows 8

Sonat Ozturk · Oct 18, 2013

Just two things in case anyone is having problems.

- The demo is using StarForce file protection system, exactly the same as in R3E. If you are having problems due to SF, please turn off any dvd emulator or similar 3rd party software you have running.

- Windows 8 Users: You might get a warning;

Windows Protected your PC
Windows SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.

Publisher: SimBin Studios AB
App: DTM_Experience_Demo_Setup.exe

- Please click more and then click Run Anyway.

I can confirm that there is no risk whatsoever. The warning is due to the demo being a downloaded software and not having enough reputation within the Windows 8 App system. Once enough demo's have been downloaded this warning will disappear.

Peter · Oct 18, 2013

Didn't have any problems with W8, just run as administrator.

Choymz · Oct 20, 2013

What would a similar 3rd party device be to a DVD Emulator?
(Newb Question)

Andi Goodwin · Oct 20, 2013

deamon tools or alike

Andi

Choymz · Oct 20, 2013

I dont have any of those and i still get the message

Andi Goodwin · Oct 20, 2013

what message ?

Andi

Choymz · Oct 20, 2013

''An attempt to use a virtual PC has been detected. Please close all PC Emuluators and try again''

Sonat Ozturk · Oct 20, 2013

Choymz said:
''An attempt to use a virtual PC has been detected. Please close all PC Emuluators and try again''

Please try running the exe as administrator.

Some examples of programs that might cause this error. Daemon Tools, Alcohol 120%, CDemu, UltraISO, Virtual CloneDrive, VirtualDrive Pro.

Certain WMWare setups are also known to trigger this error.

Basically any program that installs a virtual drive can trigger this error.

zombieshark6666 · Oct 21, 2013

Will this be the only DRM for DTM Experience? That would be great, because it worked right away for me. The game crashes after a few laps and the mouse is choppy, but otherwise, it works.

Simon Kaminski · Oct 22, 2013

Why is Simbin using Starforce? Seriously it's one of the worst copy protections a company can choose. See http://www.glop.org/starforce/ for more information.

Even Ubisoft learned their session with that copy protection.

Vaughn Stegeman · Nov 20, 2013

Starforce? Seriously? YUK

I will never again knowingly install ANYTHING that uses Starforce. About 7 or 8 years ago, Ubisoft's Silent Hunter III used Starforce, and it destroyed my DVD drive. And I know it was Starforce: new drive, worked just fine pre-Starforce, never worked again afterward.
Starfarce is THE WORST DRM ever. Please drop it. (yeah, like that's gonna happen)

Andi Goodwin · Nov 20, 2013

the starforce that is on isnt like the starforce of old ; this isnt installed in the classic way it just checks that certain things arent running/happening ... treat it more as a punkbuster style app

Andi

Bram Hengeveld · Nov 20, 2013

Skoda used to build very crap (at least ugly) cars 30 years ago. Does that prevent you to buy one today?

Peter · Nov 20, 2013

Bram Hengeveld said:
Skoda used to build very crap (at least ugly) cars 30 years ago. Does that prevent you to buy one today?

yes

Senad Subasic · Nov 20, 2013

Bram Hengeveld said:
Skoda used to build very crap (at least ugly) cars 30 years ago. Does that prevent you to buy one today?

A car crash would be a better analogy (ruined hardware, unbootable computer). In which case it might prevent him. I'd pass.

Bram Hengeveld · Nov 20, 2013

Seriously not a single player has reported an issue with starforce in R3E/DTM I believe and now its mentioned on the forum its all of a sudden a problem?

If they had renamed it to simforceware 2.0 nobody would have mentioned a word

I understand less and less about modern consumers really

If there is nothing to complain about Steam, its Starforce and if there is nothing bad to say about that there is always the brakemarkers as a backup.

Peter · Nov 20, 2013

I did't even know it has Starforce protection.
Never had any problems with any Starforce game.

Vaughn Stegeman · Nov 21, 2013

So R3E does use Starforce as well? It bothers me A LOT that when I installed it there was absolutely NO indication that it was using Starforce. Had I been informed of that, I never would have installed it ... anyhow, since R3E still has no MP or SP Career, it is now uninstalled and has been for over half a year.
And if Starforce should be considered just a Punkbuster style app, then why does it care if one has a drive-emulator installed and running? That's none of Starforce's or SimBin's business if someone is using such things, and should have NO effect on whether a game can run or not.
Starforce sucks and I stand by my statement that I will never KNOWINGLY install anything using it ever again. Senad Subasic was right with his analogy .. Starforce previously destroyed my hardware (and many many many other peoples' too). Why would I give it another chance (on purpose) .. It's rather telling that R3E gave no indication that Starfoce was present. Starforce has a bad name for a reason.
EDIT: and if Starforce WERE renamed something else, that would clearly be to side-step the bad name that it has deservedly developed over the years.

Andi Goodwin · Nov 21, 2013

once again ; starforce wasnt installed as such it is an extension to check for anti cheat and anti hack stuff , some hacks through ripping emulation etc etc ... but as it isnt installed as far as i understand (not into program files ) it is a simple dll that runs a check server side to your pc and then thats it

Andi

Bram Hengeveld · Nov 21, 2013

Vaughn Stegeman said:
EDIT: and if Starforce WERE renamed something else, that would clearly be to side-step the bad name that it has deservedly developed over the years.

And you would still have the game installed and had no problems. Now you are making fuzz about nothing as its now three times clearly described what it does.

People should really stop feeding this eight year old myth that Starforce ruined many many many many peoples hardware as that was never proven, not even by experts in a court of law.

That was a typical viral before we even knew what the word meant.