Spotter missing ?

Sil · Jul 28, 2021

Hi all,
Anybody having the same issue?
i installed the mucho pit crew patch and went exactely as instructed, and started with the bat file and after i do alt tab to start CC with ams or rfactor as intended, just once i had the spotter working for some seconds and then no more.
i tryed all i could think of but the spotter is missing totaly.
What am i doing wrong ?

Deleted member 13397 · Jul 28, 2021

there can be many reason
1. plugin stopped working, check plugin window, if you see REVs
2. CC stopped working / receiving, check there log window
3. CC configuration

you need to tell us more, or make screenshots so we can help you
what do you mean by SPOTTER

Sil · Jul 28, 2021

H Mucho,

I mean the person that tell you if a car is near left, right , clear and such. in CC you have the crew chief and a spotter.
here a pic when i start the .bat file:

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so after that i start CC and clic AMS.
and i see this on the console:

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while your patch says:

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then i alt tab in game and go on a track...the pit man is there and the crew chief too, but the spotter is in silence radio when i have some car passing me or the inverse.

if i alt tab again to destop, i see your patch that say:

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So actually everything works only the spotter dont. and i never saw REVs in the plugin window.

When i stop CC after going out of RACE07, i got this in the console:

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i hope you can help me

Deleted member 13397 · Jul 29, 2021

in the plugin consol window
there is a 1444, this are the REVs
this is to verify that the plugin works and reads your CAR and not a different one

unfortunatly you did not scroll down the log window of CC
but when you say JIM, the CrewChief is talking to you,
this let me asume everything works

so your problem, based on what you showed us is in the CC configuration

Sil · Jul 29, 2021

Thanks for your reply,
i will do another try and make a pic of the rest of console.

Sil · Jul 29, 2021

Here it is :

11:15:42.866 : Check for updates completed
11:15:52.995 : Pausing console scrolling
11:15:52.996 : Using game definition Automobilista
11:15:53.001 : Auto-install of plugin not supported for Automobilista
11:15:53.001 : Assuming that the plugin in install folder (default location C:\Program Files(x86)\Britton IT Ltd\CrewChiefV4\plugins\rFactor\Plugins) has been copied to you game's install folder
11:15:53.003 : Loading user-configured command macros from Documents/CrewChiefV4/ folder
11:15:53.019 : Loading default command macros from installation folder
11:15:53.095 : Loaded 141 default car class definitions and 0 user defined car class definitions
11:15:53.135 : No user defined landmarks found
11:15:53.139 : ThreadManager: Wating for root threads to start...
11:15:53.140 : ThreadManager: Root threads started
11:15:53.142 : Listening for buttons
11:15:53.159 : Starting queue monitor
11:15:53.162 : Monitor starting
11:15:53.165 : Using NumberReaderEn for soundPackLanguage en
11:15:53.652 : PlaybackStopped callback made 140ms late. Expected playback time 318 actual time = 458
11:15:53.656 : Playing sounds, events: COMPOUND_smoke_test_chief
11:15:53.656 : (radio_check/test)
11:15:53.659 : [Subtitle] Jim: radio check
11:15:54.016 : Loading user-configured chart subscriptions from Documents/CrewChiefV4/ folder
11:15:54.019 : Added 22 common subs to 0 game-specific subs
11:15:54.020 : Polling for shared data every 100ms
11:15:54.027 : Initialising...
11:15:54.031 : Initialised rFactor 1 shared memory
11:15:54.431 : PlaybackStopped callback made 35ms late. Expected playback time 720 actual time = 755
11:15:54.432 : There are 1 more events in the queue, playing them...
11:15:54.432 : Playing sounds, events: COMPOUND_smoke_test_spotter
11:15:54.432 : (radio_check_Clare/test)
11:15:54.432 : [Subtitle] Clare: spotter, radio check
11:15:55.941 : PlaybackStopped callback made 122ms late. Expected playback time 1380 actual time = 1502
11:15:55.942 : PlaybackModerator: Closing radio channel as Spotter
11:15:56.401 : PlaybackStopped callback made 91ms late. Expected playback time 365 actual time = 456
11:16:09.193 : Took 31.18s to lazy load remaining message sounds, there are now 9465 loaded message sounds
11:16:09.193 : Skipped 101 sweary sounds

So yes everything works but the spotter is absent, Clare is maybe in hollydays.

Maybe with the rest of the console you can fix the issue, I hope so.

Regards,
Silvano

Sil · Jul 29, 2021

So i did a few laps in practice and no spotter to hear, i stop and alt tab to show you the console text :

11:27:42.546 : Unmapped car class added:"BMW E30"
11:27:42.549 : Enabled message types:
11:27:42.549 : TYRE_TEMPS
11:27:42.549 : TYRE_WEAR
11:27:42.549 : BRAKE_TEMPS
11:27:42.549 : BRAKE_DAMAGE
11:27:42.549 : FUEL
11:27:42.549 : LOCKING_AND_SPINNING
11:27:42.550 : Spotter enabled: True
11:27:42.550 : Realistic mode: False
11:27:42.550 : Oval logic enabled: False
11:27:42.550 : Using American terms: True
11:27:42.550 : Using metric: True
11:27:42.554 : No landmarks defined for this track
11:27:42.569 : Unmapped car class added:"Alfa Romeo 75"
11:27:42.571 : New driver briand d'aubigne is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 2
11:27:42.574 : New driver briand d'aubigne is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 3
11:27:42.574 : New driver adrian jackson is using car class BMW E30 at position 4
11:27:42.574 : New driver tancredo staropoli is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 5
11:27:42.574 : New driver briand d'aubigne is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 6
11:27:42.574 : New driver tancredo staropoli is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 7
11:27:42.574 : New driver leopold jung is using car class BMW E30 at position 8
11:27:42.574 : New driver adrian jackson is using car class BMW E30 at position 9
11:27:42.574 : New driver emmett levine is using car class BMW E30 at position 10
11:27:42.574 : New driver alcott otway is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 11
11:27:42.574 : New driver nino lione is using car class BMW E30 at position 12
11:27:42.574 : New driver nino lione is using car class BMW E30 at position 13
11:27:42.574 : New driver horst ackerman is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 14
11:27:42.574 : New driver nino lione is using car class BMW E30 at position 15
11:27:42.574 : New driver taddeo turilli is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 16
11:27:42.574 : New driver garrick hutton is using car class BMW E30 at position 17
11:27:42.574 : New driver garrick hutton is using car class BMW E30 at position 18
11:27:42.574 : New driver taddeo turilli is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 19
11:27:42.574 : New driver garrick hutton is using car class BMW E30 at position 20
11:27:42.574 : New driver frederick kuefer is using car class BMW E30 at position 21
11:27:42.574 : New driver frederick kuefer is using car class BMW E30 at position 22
11:27:42.574 : New driver william klingstrom is using car class Alfa Romeo 75 at position 23
11:27:42.574 : New driver frederick kuefer is using car class BMW E30 at position 24
11:27:42.574 : New driver frederick kuefer is using car class BMW E30 at position 25
11:27:42.578 : New session, trigger data:
11:27:42.578 : EventIndex: 1
11:27:42.578 : SessionType: Practice
11:27:42.578 : SessionPhase: Garage
11:27:42.578 : SessionIteration: 0
11:27:42.578 : HasMandatoryPitStop: False
11:27:42.578 : PitWindowStart: 0
11:27:42.578 : PitWindowEnd: 0
11:27:42.578 : NumCarsAtStartOfSession: 25
11:27:42.578 : SessionNumberOfLaps: 0
11:27:42.578 : SessionRunTime: 1830
11:27:42.578 : SessionStartTime: 07/29/2021 09:27:42
11:27:42.578 : Player is using car class: "BMW E30" at position: 1
11:27:42.582 : Multi-Class event:
11:27:42.582 : "BMW E30" (unmapped)
11:27:42.582 : "Alfa Romeo 75" (unmapped)
11:27:42.582 : Insufficient car class data, so dropping back to single class racing
11:27:42.584 : New session
11:27:42.584 : New session details...
11:27:42.584 : SessionType: Practice
11:27:42.584 : EventIndex: 1
11:27:42.584 : SessionIteration: 0
11:27:42.584 : TrackName: ""
11:27:42.584 : Clearing game state...
11:27:42.585 : Purging regular queue
11:27:42.586 : Purging immediate queue
11:27:42.609 : Using unmapped driver last name jackson for raw driver name adrian jackson
11:27:42.609 : Using unmapped driver last name otway for raw driver name alcott otway
11:27:42.609 : Using unmapped driver last name d'aubigne for raw driver name briand d'aubigne
11:27:42.609 : Using unmapped driver last name levine for raw driver name emmett levine
11:27:42.609 : Using unmapped driver last name kuefer for raw driver name frederick kuefer
11:27:42.609 : Using unmapped driver last name hutton for raw driver name garrick hutton
11:27:42.610 : Using unmapped driver last name ackerman for raw driver name horst ackerman
11:27:42.610 : Using unmapped driver last name jung for raw driver name leopold jung
11:27:42.610 : Using unmapped driver last name lione for raw driver name nino lione
11:27:42.610 : Using unmapped driver last name turilli for raw driver name taddeo turilli
11:27:42.610 : Using unmapped driver last name staropoli for raw driver name tancredo staropoli
11:27:42.610 : Using unmapped driver last name klingstrom for raw driver name william klingstrom
11:27:42.610 : Using unmapped driver last name bazan for raw driver name silvano bazan
11:27:42.623 : Unvocalized driver name: otway
11:27:42.623 : Unvocalized driver name: d'aubigne
11:27:42.623 : Unvocalized driver name: levine
11:27:42.623 : Unvocalized driver name: kuefer
11:27:42.623 : Unvocalized driver name: hutton
11:27:42.631 : Unvocalized driver name: jung
11:27:42.631 : Unvocalized driver name: lione
11:27:42.631 : Unvocalized driver name: turilli
11:27:42.631 : Unvocalized driver name: staropoli
11:27:42.631 : Unvocalized driver name: klingstrom
11:27:42.631 : Unvocalized driver name: bazan
11:27:42.632 : Took 0.02 seconds to load 13 driver name sounds. There are now 9467 sound files loaded
11:27:42.758 : ********** starting spotter***********
11:27:42.759 : Invoking spotter every 50
11:28:11.461 : SessionPhase changed from Garage to Green
11:28:11.554 : Session time remaining = 1799.912 (00:29:59:912)
11:28:51.131 : PlaybackModerator: Opening radio channel as Chief
11:28:51.592 : PlaybackStopped callback made 143ms late. Expected playback time 318 actual time = 461
11:28:51.592 : Playing sounds, events: push_now/pits_exit_clear
11:28:51.592 : (push_now/pits_exit_clear)
11:28:51.592 : [Subtitle] Jim: pit exit's clear
11:28:52.652 : PlaybackStopped callback made 152ms late. Expected playback time 903 actual time = 1055
11:28:52.652 : PlaybackModerator: Closing radio channel as Chief
11:28:52.962 : PlaybackStopped callback made 29ms late. Expected playback time 278 actual time = 307
11:28:53.273 : PlaybackModerator: Opening radio channel as Chief
11:28:53.741 : PlaybackStopped callback made 149ms late. Expected playback time 318 actual time = 467
11:28:53.741 : Playing sounds, events: COMPOUND_brake_temps
11:28:53.741 : (tyre_monitor/cold_brakes_all_round)
11:28:53.741 : [Subtitle] Jim: your brakes are cold, take it easy
11:28:55.252 : PlaybackStopped callback made 62ms late. Expected playback time 1443 actual time = 1505
11:28:55.252 : PlaybackModerator: Closing radio channel as Chief
11:28:55.572 : PlaybackStopped callback made 41ms late. Expected playback time 278 actual time = 319

Deleted member 13397 · Jul 29, 2021

upfront, i dont use CrewChief, so dont have the experience
but when looking on the log, everything seems ok,

so goto CrewChief Configuration Properties
and look for Spotter Options

or may be check with GTR2, how CC behaves there

i can tell you, that the Spotter works with our PLUGINs
(but i am using a pretty old CC version 4.15.2.5)

Sil · Jul 29, 2021

Yes i tryed GTR2 and others sims (AMS, R3E, ACC and more) and they work well, CC is working as it should, its only in Race 07 where i have this prob.
ok i will dig into the properties of CC, i allready done it but i will do it again, i might have overlooked something.
Maybe something in your patch does this issue only in my case, since i am the only one to suffer from that.
The digital world is full of surprises.

PS - CC actual version is 4.15.2.9, so yours is not so old.

Deleted member 13397 · Jul 29, 2021

here is my CC config file, maybe it will help

File on MEGA

mega.nz

Sil · Jul 29, 2021

Thanks will look into that, now i noticed one thing witch can be of importance.
i fired up ACC and of course CC too, at the end i looked at CC console and here is what i see :

20:04:21.554 : Playing sounds, events: spotter_Clare/car_left
20:04:21.554 : (spotter_Clare/car_left)
20:04:21.554 : [Subtitle] Clare: left side
20:04:22.323 : PlaybackStopped callback made 131ms late. Expected playback time 638 actual time = 769
20:04:22.736 : Playing sounds, events: spotter_Clare/clear_left
20:04:22.736 : (spotter_Clare/clear_left)
20:04:22.736 : [Subtitle] Clare: clear left

So thats something i did not see in the console after Race07, that explain maybe why i dont hear the spotter.
But unfortunatly i dont know what is the cause.

Deleted member 13397 · Jul 30, 2021

you must remember,
CC has a profile for every game, when you use CC with ACC, you select a different profile
when you use CC with R07, you probably run it with AMS or RF1 profile
and those may have different settings then the ACC profile

so if JIM talks to you in RACE07, then CLARE is just not configured to do so

Sil · Jul 30, 2021

Thanks for the infos, mucho
I'll keep that in mind.
gonna look at your CC config file.

After looking at your file, its exactely the same as mine.
ok giving up

AndreasFSC · Jul 30, 2021

Have you selected a spotter voice?
A had to select someone other than Jim.
Edit: you probably have, didn't red all posts above carefully enough

Deleted member 13397 · Jul 30, 2021

Sil said:
Thanks for the infos, mucho
I'll keep that in mind.
gonna look at your CC config file.

After looking at your file, its exactely the same as mine.
ok giving up

did you check the properties page for your profile, can you upload a screenshot of it (filtered by spotter)

Sil · Jul 30, 2021

Yes Andreas i did that

and ok mucho i will do that when i have time, but i need to know for what plugin, AMS?, rfactor? thats the 2 you said to choose in CC as a start for your app.
Thanks to help guys

AndreasFSC · Jul 30, 2021

I use "Micha" here, and that works. Also hearing him saying "Radio check" after Jim at startup.

22:09:38.031 : Monitor starting
22:09:38.032 : PlaybackModerator: Opening radio channel as Chief
22:09:38.440 : Playing sounds, events: COMPOUND_smoke_test_chief
22:09:38.440 : (radio_check/test)
22:09:38.852 : Loading user-configured chart subscriptions from Documents/CrewChiefV4/ folder
22:09:38.856 : Added 22 common subs to 0 game-specific subs
22:09:38.856 : Polling for shared data every 100ms
22:09:38.859 : Initialising...
22:09:38.859 : Initialised rFactor 1 shared memory
22:09:39.241 : There are 1 more events in the queue, playing them...
22:09:39.241 : Playing sounds, events: COMPOUND_smoke_test_spotter
22:09:39.241 : (radio_check_Micha/test)
22:09:39.973 : PlaybackModerator: Closing radio channel as Spotter

Deleted member 13397 · Jul 31, 2021

if you use the AMS.exe as the plugin, you need to select Automobilista and check the Automobilista properties
if you use rfactor.exe, you need to select rFactor and check rfactor profile properties

you can filter the properties and search for SPOTTER