Any news? Beta testers? When can we expect it on the market? What will it cost for us Europeans?
2999 dollars for the seat. About 400 in shipping to Norway. I have to put 25% vat on top of that. Costly business this sim racing hobby
Thank you for the heads up!! I did as you said and now I can order the GS-5 Seat It will cost me 3700 euro including shipping to Europe after customs. That’s about what I expected. They wrote me that it will be on the market in the next week anyway.
It looks like a solid product. You get SimVibe included also btw. My only two concerns are:
1. Noise level? Will it be louder than my SFX100? Louder than my Buttkickers Concert? Or silent? There are no videos yet.
2. G-forces from the side? On the pictures the panels come from the back, there is nothing on the side.. how can you feel cornering g-forces? Does it work anyway? I won’t be needing road bumps etc. because my SFX100 does them very well, my only interest is cornering and acceleration g-forces. But I can’t see how the GS-5 seat can push me from the side..?
But apparently a D-Box style motion + GS-4/5 seat is a match made in heaven, confirmed by a few lucky users
Yes, my concerns as well.. I really need a good solution for lateral g-forces, it’s the last piece of the puzzle for my motion. But for 3700 I would like some peace of mind that it does cornering really well, because if it disappoints, it’s an expensive mistake. I hope someone can soon confirm the GS-5 seat gives convincing g-forces in corners?I got an invitation to buy one in the presale a couple of weeks ago.
3750 euro was too much for me to dive right in there, but also the fact that panels of the GS-5 look smaller (less wide) and they didn't make them extended so the forces come more from the side.
My current GS-4 is already modded and provides much more feedback than a standard GS-4, I'm afraid that a 3750 euro investment could lead to disappointment since, like Hugo, i only need it for G-force simulation.
Also the current market for a use GS-4 in Europe is non-excistent. So for now i decided to keep my GS-4, since i'm still very happy with the what it adds tot the SFX100, it's indeed a match made in heaven.
I'm closely following @Michal Burisin in build my his own G-seat and i'm considering to maybe replace the servos in the future.
Assuming the GS-5 is not louder than the GS-4, i don't think it's louder than the SFX100 and the sound it makes doesn't travel as far as the SFX100 actuators.
Thanks for the excellent report! That’s valuable informationI had an opportunity to try it out at the Indy in Toronto. For comparison, I have a DIY Gseat with a total of 160kgcm servos for lateral forces (more than GS-4) and panels that extend to my sides. I found the GS5 lateral force reproduction to be great but not to the level of my DIY seat. That said, I don’t think it was setup for very strong forces and I’d imagine the stepper motors that it uses could do much more than my servos can. I will also say that the road texture the GS5 can reproduce is unbelievably good. Extremely convincing and leagues better than my heave panels. It was incredible, comfortable and silent!
Hopefully, it will be in my budget in the future, just a bit too much for me right now.
To put things in perspective Hugo, road bumps are available on the GS-4 to but i have them turned off. The SFX-100 simply does a better job and when you are really nitpicking. It doesn't make sense that you bum feels the road texture while your feet, the steering rack and the rest of the rig don't. If that's all you have, then it's ok but if you have the SFX100 to your disposal it's better to let it do it's job for the entire rigThanks for the excellent report! That’s valuable information
From what I can gather now, the GS-5 is really good, but can never be as good as a custom made DIY g-seat, simply because they needed to design a seat that fits a wide range of body types.
Those road bumps sure sound fantastic and from a technical point of view it’s quite brilliant to concentrate the road texture bumps directly to your bum. But since I already have the equally brilliant SFX100 which manages to turn the whole rig into a real car, I would only use the g-forces. Those g-forces don’t even need to be so fast, not like bumps, so your DIY lateral curved panels may be better for people like me with sufficient road texture already sorted.
Damn, this has been the hardest purchase so far. All other components of my rig where a no-brainer.
I think that's a wrong assumption, even my own may be wrong here but I will attempt to describe.I'm thinking of selling my NLRV3 and getting this instead. Looking forward to hearing more reviews.
I'd like to learn more if this is based on game telemetry or a requires manual tweaking of settings to "get the motion right" as the NLRV3.
Ideally, the forces being simulated should be coming from the game engine directly and being translated by the software. You shouldn't need profiles for different type of cars. Anything too severe, and the unit should just clip the signal that's out of range.