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rF2 | May Development Roadmap Brings News Of Portland

davehenrie

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You talking bull.. dont need other cars only the oner you drive (own) you talk about iracing in the past was like that , not anymore either now
no, rF2 is like that now. Your car purchases must match the cars installed on the server. So if you bought one GT3 car and the server has all 5, then you won't be able to race until you get all 5 as well. That could also mean, buying the package would mean you would have duplicated at least one car. That is why we users have discouraged buying single cars when the pack is available.
Now recent releases like the Ferrari 488 GTE are sold singly, but if you want to join a server that is hosting the GTE carset plus the 488, then back to the store you go.
( and I'm shocked :), shocked I say, that ANYone would accuse me of talking Bull...why I never.....) :)
 

John-Eric Saxén

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One of the problems with running an online race, is the Packages system. Quite honestly, it's currently a bit of a mess IMO. However, you do need understand how to use this, in order to put up a server which will download all the necessary content when a player tries to join the server.
I never understood the purpose of rfmods. I know it's ISI who created the whole system, but it serves as a good example of how to not design software. End users should never have to deal with something like rfmods, even if they existed internally, this is according to basic principles of abstraction. The way rfmods work at the moment is they are more or less serving as a "link" between x cars and tracks without adding any meaningful functionality to the user. There is no reason why they should get downloaded and accumulate on the hard drive creating problems with dependencies. Perhaps the biggest issue with rfmods is the extra complication they create when hosting. Anyone doing regular hosting and switching between cars and tracks would quickly end up saving hours of work if the whole concept of rfmod was removed or at least abstracted so there would be no manual packaging involved.

Joining a server with paid content without owning it is a separate issue from rfmods that is maybe less straightforward to solve, it isn't a limitation with only rF2, other sims like Assetto Corsa do have this requirement as well.

Their light system is broken since day 0, there's no enough sun intensity. But when you point that out for developers they simply ignore.
Nonsense. if you check light colored materials in the game, you'll actually notice they are more on the side of over exposed under direct sunlight, which suggests there is perhaps a tad too much direct light, not too little.
 
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dreamer al

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Looks like Marcel got fed up of all the whining and deleted his RD account.
I echo your sentiments entirely plus I wish they would fix the AI to allow for multi class racing
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Has he really deleted his account? I find that hard to believe.
 

Pappa_G_27

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Looks like Marcel got fed up of all the whining and deleted his RD account.
I echo your sentiments entirely plus I wish they would fix the AI to allow for multi class racing
Has he really deleted his account? I find that hard to believe.
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Nah he trolling
 
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thepharcyde

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Has he really deleted his account? I find that hard to believe.
Nah he trolling
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I generally was not trying to troll. I can since see Marcel responded to on a thread last night.

Hopefully Marcel might address the points raised in this thread too :)
 

halfwit

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Agree all tracks should be overhauled and optimised particularly Nurburgring GP circuit,so many comments have requested this in the past
 

Michel vL

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Very cool to see the developments progressing nicely.
Looking forward to put an IndyCar to it's pace on Portland somewhere this month :)
Also the Le Mans update is promising, had such a blast at the 2.4 hour club race last week!
 
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thundercat

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You can race online, but the scarcity of populated servers makes finding a good online race rare. Plus, When a server has a complete carpak, you too must have the complete carpak. If you only wanted one car, say just the GT3 Corvette, you would have to buy the rest of the pack just to connect with the server, IF the server had the full 5 car pack installed.
Thanks for clarifying. Hopefully it's possible to resolve in future and if not technically then at least offer a discount of full package price minus paid single item price. Anyway I gather this has been discussed in the past but thanks again.
 
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simvalek

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Thanks for clarifying. Hopefully it's possible to resolve in future and if not technically then at least offer a discount of full package price minus paid single item price. Anyway I gather this has been discussed in the past but thanks again.
The carpacks go on sale quite often. Keep track of the steam sales and the older car packs and tracks will be discounted most of the time
 
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Ryan Soucy

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I've been going Marie Kondo on my hard drive. If it doesn't bring me joy (or I haven't played it in 3 months) get ready to get uninstalled. Most recently it was ACC. (Dirt4, I'd be worried if I were you) But rF2 isn't far behind. I used to love it but in like 2014(?), but honestly, it was really just the old F2 cars I liked. Every time I go in it I exit disappointed. The only thing saving it is I moved it off of my main gaming HDD to my third Media HDD, so I don't need the space. But the icon taunts me.

And you know, I just STUPIDLY bought the EGT paid mod for rF2 (you know, the one I never play in AC also?) just because I'm addicted to New Viper. (Like Old Viper, but better). I really wish there was a way to sell games, it would remove the temptation to reinstall.

For all the game pirating I *may* have done in my younger days, I have certainly made up for it by supporting the simracing community. I spent another $13 at humblebundle buying Assetto Corsa DLC. I haven't played AC more than 1 hour in the past year until these last two nights. WHY WOULD I BUY THAT?!
 
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tr1v1um

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There's no way I could have activated a night race, I haven o idea how to do it in the UI?!?

Compare the OP's picture to this:
And your point is? There are so many variables that determine how an image looks that it makes no sense at all to slap a random image from the internet into a thread and compare it to a random image in a news post for wich you don't know the conditions either. Do you know at wich TOD your images was takes and wich camera settings they used? There are no aperture sizes or exposure times in rF2 either that play a huge role in how your posted image looks like. S397 could cheat a little and add a photomode with such options, but that's not really the point and propably shouldn't be their focus for now given the other constructions sites of the sim.
 

Ryan Soucy

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And your point is? There are so many variables that determine how an image looks that it makes no sense at all to slap a random image from the internet into a thread and compare it to a random image in a news post for wich you don't know the conditions either. Do you know at wich TOD your images was takes and wich camera settings they used? There are no aperture sizes or exposure times in rF2 either that play a huge role in how your posted image looks like. S397 could cheat a little and add a photomode with such options, but that's not really the point and propably shouldn't be their focus for now given the other constructions sites of the sim.
Whoa, I've been schooled!!! Let me boil it down to a generalization that has gotten some agreement elsewhere on these forums. The lighting in rFactor2 has generally been less bright than other sims, as identified as full sun settings. The OP posted a pic of near high noon as judged by the length of the shadows, so I found a picture of the same type of car that featured shadows of the same length, hopefully signifying similar conditions. I know nothing of the F-stops and shutter speeds of either so I cannot speak to those. But I can see that the photo is brighter and features more contrast than rF2. It would be nice if the rF2 engine could be enhanced to the level of other racing games. That was all I was asking. Maybe the devs won't care for my comments and will find them of little value, but they should note that I have not bought any Studio 397 DLC for rF2, and that sets it apart from PC1 and PC2, AC, RRRE, and AMS where I have almost all of the available DLC.
 

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I've been driving RaceRoom, AMS2 and RF2 back to back (to back!) in recent weeks, in VR i have not noticed RF2 being any darker at all at any time of the day compared to the other two Sims, and I've also not seen anyone else mention it until this thread.

Perhaps a recent update changed it slightly for monitors? Pure guess that.
 

tr1v1um

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Whoa, I've been schooled!!! Let me boil it down to a generalization that has gotten some agreement elsewhere on these forums. The lighting in rFactor2 has generally been less bright than other sims, as identified as full sun settings. The OP posted a pic of near high noon as judged by the length of the shadows, so I found a picture of the same type of car that featured shadows of the same length, hopefully signifying similar conditions. I know nothing of the F-stops and shutter speeds of either so I cannot speak to those. But I can see that the photo is brighter and features more contrast than rF2. It would be nice if the rF2 engine could be enhanced to the level of other racing games. That was all I was asking. Maybe the devs won't care for my comments and will find them of little value, but they should note that I have not bought any Studio 397 DLC for rF2, and that sets it apart from PC1 and PC2, AC, RRRE, and AMS where I have almost all of the available DLC.
I think it's dangerous to to make desicions about the development of the lighting pipeline of a graphics engine based on assumptions based on some "gereralizations that has gotten some agreement elsewhere" on some forums. That's exactly not how this stuff works especialy with limited manpower and budgets in a field where physics and math are involved. I guess nobody will argue that the Madness engine offers great visuals and lighting but the question is if you can compare a AAA engine that was developed with big budgets and financial backing from the likes of EA with an inhouse graphics engine of a small studio like S397. If you think that RRRE, AMS or AC look better to you is subjective either and it's not that difficult to see where the limits of those engines are with AC even showcasing some issues when using SOL and custom shaders that were a thing in the very early days of rF2.

Point is, if you don't know how a camera works why make such a bold statement and compare a random image that could be photoshopped or even completely over exposed by simple stuff like ISO values compared to the real conditions with an ingame screenshot where you don't know the TOD and the conditions? It's very well possible that this screenshot was taken at 6 or 7 pm with overcast settings. And at the end of the day you will never get the power of the sun shown on a LCD monitor. Anyway, S397 are in the constant process of updating the graphics engine, and once the content get's upgraded some of the problems might get solved anyway.
 

Ryan Soucy

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Point is, if you don't know how a camera works why make such a bold statement and compare a random image that could be photoshopped or even completely over exposed by simple stuff like ISO values compared to the real conditions with an ingame screenshot where you don't know the TOD and the conditions? It's very well possible that this screenshot was taken at 6 or 7 pm with overcast settings. And at the end of the day you will never get the power of the sun shown on a LCD monitor. Anyway, S397 are in the constant process of updating the graphics engine, and once the content get's upgraded some of the problems might get solved anyway.
I give up, you win the internet. I will log off now.