Rally - Old Swede - Mon 9th & Tues 10th August 2010

[Senad Subasic]

Is anyone else finding the handbrake completely useless?

No idea, I only used it when I went too deep into a corner. Like the S2000 cars a few days ago, don't need handbrake turns.

 

[Warren Dawes]

Is anyone else finding the handbrake completely useless?

Yep.

 

[John Low]

Hi all,

Have decided to sit this one out sorry Warren and Senad. I really need some family time, the dog growls at me now like I'm a stranger.

Due to the incredibly high volume of work involved in doing all replays, I would like to get replays from Stages 1 and 6 only please from this rally. The video from the last rally is about 20 minutes away from being published and then uploaded. YAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!! Has been an enormous amount of work.

elmomarty@bigpond.com for the replays please

Cheers

 

[Damien Jones]

No idea, I only used it when I went too deep into a corner. Like the S2000 cars a few days ago, don't need handbrake turns.

How do you get around the hairpin quickly?

 

[Senad Subasic]

I don't . I try to just slow down, flick it, and step on the gas.

 

[Rick Bamford]

I once saw somewhere that because RBR doesn't have a RWD model, the way they got it working was to turn the car around on the wheels (front wheels become back/back become front) and give it 5-6 reverse gears and one forward. Unfortunately thay means the handbrake works on the front wheels in most. i think someone has just disconnected it for the Volvo.

If you need to get the back out, step on the clutch, give it the beans, then drop the clutch and try to catch it before your facing the wrong way. Seams to work for me, but i have more trouble trying NOT to spin, lol.

 

[Damien Jones]

That makes sense

Clutch! Aaahgh. Can't get the hang of using it, adds an extra layer of thought = running into trees
BTW....tried the volvo with 900 degrees on the G25, much more fun!

 

[Rick Bamford]

Lol, 900? I'm using 720 and thats a handfull. But ok, i might have to try 900 now as well. haha.

 

[Warren Dawes]

I don't . I try to just slow down, flick it, and step on the gas.

That is basically how I do it too.

I had been wondering if increasing the steering rotation might help with this car, but I'm just having fun with the swinging rear end, really starting to enjoy it.
This car is sure different, but seems quite realistic to me, about how I'd expect a heavy old RWD Volvo to drive.

 

[Warren Dawes]

Unfortunately thay means the handbrake works on the front wheels in most.

I don't know about that theory, but I have looked at the external views of 4WD cars under handbrake turns, and the rear wheels certainly lock up.

 

[Rick Bamford]

I don't know about that theory, but I have looked at the external views of 4WD cars under handbrake turns, and the rear wheels certainly lock up.

Yeah Warren, but they have had to use the FWD model, sorry I should have been more specific.

The Fwd model was used to get a 2wd car, but the body is turned around on the wheels. It was an old thread and somebody may be doing it differently now, but i still haven't found an RBR RWD car where the handbrake works on the rear wheels. If you try the Mk1 Escort, it locks the fronts with the handbrake, or at least it did when i drove it last time, lol.

Yep, just drove the M3, handbrake works on the front. Also, for anyone trying to setup these cars remeber that the front settings change the rear of the car, rear settings change the front. Makes it that little bit more interesting, lol.

 

[Senad Subasic]

Also, for anyone trying to setup these cars remeber that the front settings change the rear of the car, rear settings change the front. Makes it that little bit more interesting, lol.

Ha, I was right after all; I assumed stiffening up the rear a bit would help, and was scratching my head when the front worked.

 

[Jakub Sulej]

It is strange, because I wouldn't be able to know Rally classification, because in tuesday I'm going on holiday, so I won't have computer with me there.

 

[Senad Subasic]

It is strange, because I wouldn't be able to know Rally classification, because in tuesday I'm going on holiday, so I won't have computer with me there.

Heh, maybe get a friend to check it for you, and send you an email or SMS?

 

[Warren Dawes]

It is strange, because I wouldn't be able to know Rally classification, because in tuesday I'm going on holiday, so I won't have computer with me there.

Loool, don't worry Jakub, you can always collect your winners trophy when you return.

 

[Rick Bamford]

Ok, I know this might be a little late for some people to use and see if they like but It might help someone.

Volvo setup:

Diff Torque : 500Nm - MAX

Dampers

Front (which is really the rear wheels)
Bump 3.0
Rebound 30
F/Bump 6.0
F/B Thresh 1.4

Rear (which is really the front wheels)
Bump 5
rebound 4
F/bump 7
F/B Thresh 1.4

Springs
Front (still rear wheels)
Length 370
Stiffness 28
Helper length 100
Stifness 12

Rear (still front)
Length 370
Stiffness 40
Helper Lgth 120
Stiffness 15

Geo
Chnage the Wheel axis Inc to
Front -0.17
Rear -12.89

Brake Bias - 5700/6250

Have fun and let me know who uses it and what you think.

However if Jakub is going to win anyway he isn't allowed to use it.

 

[Jakub Sulej]

However if Jakub is going to win anyway he isn't allowed to use it.

Ok, I won't use it, I have my personal setups, but the car is still hard to controll, so it would be very challenging for me.

 

[Rick Bamford]

Ok, I won't use it, I have my personal setups, but the car is still hard to controll, so it would be very challenging for me.

I was joking Jakub, but if you don't want to thats cool. Good luck with the rally everyone.

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

sign me up last minute, just ordered a new PC, so this might be the last official game on my old one-core PC, car seems quite apt.

edit: out again, my daughter convinced me that playing a game of Scrabble with my offspring is ethically more sound than sitting in front of the PC. Good Luck all with the Old Swede.

 

[Łukasz Demolin]

Whew, that was AMAZING! I mean, AMAZING! First stage and already three top drivers separated by less than a second. Fighthing till the very end, and what a completely dramatic last stage... I'll hold with the longer review till the Down Under guys finish (I just hope they won't be like 20s a stage faster than us, it would be a huge downer ), but I want some more Volvo (or generally RWD cars)in the future RallyClub events. Pretty please.