Racing platform for Season 10

[Kennett Ylitalo]

I believe in each technical stuff you say Kennett.

lol

 

[Henrik Jordfald Olsen]

so are we in any way set on the platform for season 10?

I am getting my setup ready and wonder what platform I should start using..

 

[Nicolai Nicholson]

Yes, I think most or all are ready to vote now. How should we do this? E-mail or forum thread? Should we just say what we prefer or range them from 1-3? Or other methods?

 

[David Turnbull]

i think a forum thread would be good nico, if we all just say what we prefer like you say 1-3 and thats it, we dont need anymore pros or cons or reasons.

 

[Bob Luneski]

E-mail with fixed response deadline. In that way everyone would 1) actively notified a vote was in progress and 2) be given the opportunity to respond. In this way no one can say they were not given the opportunity to participate in the decision.

I'm ok with a forum thread also as long as a clear decision criteria is established. (so we don't get to the end of several dozen posts and ask "So what do we do now?)

 

[Henrik Jordfald Olsen]

forum thread sounds good to me.
1-3 easy and piecy

 

[Peter Marshall]

Run the season using both FRR and F3000 combined? Twice as many winners.

 

[Bob Luneski]

Run the season using both FRR and F3000 combined? Twice as many winners.

How about giving the resident aliens F3K and the rest of us FRR?? ROTFL And while we're at it they can only drive with one hand on the wheel and have consumed not less than a six-pack prior to qualifying.

 

[Peter Marshall]

How about giving the resident aliens F3K and the rest of us FRR?? ROTFL And while we're at it they can only drive with one hand on the wheel and have consumed not less than a six-pack prior to qualifying.

and a new penalty system is born!

 

[Sean Greenlaw]

Just a thought but maybe the most important part of the voting before was people who were thinking of leaving if wasnt there prefered car. For example if both partys were ok with Frr as compromise to there choice, then that would make the choice for us easier as it would mean everyone stays if we choose that car, in the best case scenario we can keep and please everyone i think

 

[Reik Major]

I think Bobs arguments for an E-Mail vote make good sence. Nico just should let us know then who's adresses he's missing.

I think it could work well if eveyone has to allocate a number from let's say 1 - 3 for each car. ( 1 = dislike; 2 = don't care; 3 = like).

This way one could vote slightly balanced. For example if I don't care in generall but slightly prefer the F1 MMG it could look like this.

MMG F1: 3
F 3000: 2
F RR: 2

But if I'm only in favor with the MMG F1 it should look like this:

MMG F1: 3
F 3000: 1
F RR: 1

To give more options we could also allow a spread from 0 - 10 (from "0" = "no way" to "10" = "nothing else").

The one who doesn't care at all just needs to give the same number to each car and the car with the highest sum should be the final choice then.

Does it make sence?

 

[Valter Ostman]

EDIT:
Sorry, was writing while Reik posted. I thought we could do it as simple as one vote each.
If everyone choose to enter 10 on their favourite car in Reik's more advanced voting table it will end up the same type of poll. If it must involve a scale of disliking a car we better do it in e-mail.
CAR, VOTE, SUM,
MMG, 0, 0
FRR, 1, 1
F3000, 0, 0

 

[Sean Greenlaw]

I think i get the idea Reik the 1 to 3 seems nice and simple so basically highest number would win vote.

Also theres maybe people who havent been around forums I havent seen Tim around for a while.

 

[Reik Major]

...the 1 to 3 seems nice and simple so basically highest number would win vote...

You maybe right. If the span is too big, a single vote could have too much impact on the whole result.

 

[Marko Vuori]

I think scale 1-10 is better than 1-3, as we lose more information while using narrower scale. I also think choosing value between 1-10 is not any more difficult than choosing value between 1-3, actually vice versa.

 

[Sean Greenlaw]

I think the opposite Marko if we use higher number we get less accurate info from vote, its as Reik says with the higher numbers can be nothing more than more points, most people picking 10 for favourite car and then deciding on difference if any of remaining cars is only adding more numbers to confuse the situation.
I see what you mean though, if we were having a vote like 'give us your score on the car out of 10' it would be more accurate at getting a idea how everyone thinks cars are compared.
1 to 3 is simple for our vote and gets clearer idea of what everyone likes and dislikes and we will have a top scorer. When i looked at what Reik says i thought like this, : 3 really like car, : 2 like car, : 1 dislike car.
For example if you did it with 10 scoring its would be 10 5 1, Your not changing anything other than lowering accuracy of the vote with higher number scale on this type of vote i think.

 

[Valter Ostman]

How many days to season start, 12 is it?

 

[Marko Vuori]

I think the opposite Marko if we use higher number we get less accurate info from vote, its as Reik says with the higher numbers can be nothing more than more points, most people picking 10 for favourite car and then deciding on difference if any of remaining cars is only adding more numbers to confuse the situation.
I see what you mean though, if we were having a vote like 'give us your score on the car out of 10' it would be more accurate at getting a idea how everyone thinks cars are compared.
1 to 3 is simple for our vote and gets clearer idea of what everyone likes and dislikes and we will have a top scorer. When i looked at what Reik says i thought like this, : 3 really like car, : 2 like car, : 1 dislike car.
For example if you did it with 10 scoring its would be 10 5 1, Your not changing anything other than lowering accuracy of the vote with higher number scale on this type of vote i think.

I don't understand how we would get clearer idea of what everyone likes or dislikes by using scale that forces our opinions into 3 categories? Let's say we have cars "x", "y" and "z" and I really like car "x", mildly like car "y" and forcefully hate car "z" . I would probably have to evaluate them x=3, y=2, z=1, with 1-3 scale, whereas with 1-10 scale it would maybe be x=10, y=7, and z=1. In this case, you can see that car "y"'s mild like has changed into "don't care" with 1-3 scale, whereas 1-10 scale accurately catches my opinion about it. In other words, 1-3 scale only captures my opinion accurately if I either like, dislike, or don't care about the car. It does not understand, if I like a car a bit, mildly dislike it, or pretty much hate it, etc.

 

[Henrik Jordfald Olsen]

Ah, I thought we would just choose 1 of 3 options...

MMG F1: Option 1
F 3000: Option 2
F RR: Option3

Introducing scales opens a wole other way of calculating and makes it a bit harder to reach a conclusion.

This might seem easier to me as I really do not "care" what we end up with.
Even if I would choose option 1 it would not mean I would quit if we end up with option 2.

So why not just choose one option and then give another value like:

Or I will quit !

This makes it easy to see what option will leave us with a decent amount of racers for the upcoming season.

 

[Marko Vuori]

Henrik's suggestion would be simple, but if we vote like that the winner car might easily be a car that leads to smallest grids (because of withdrawals from the series)?