RACE On announced

[Trebor901]

The next scheduled release, RACE On will target all PC owners with a bit of petrol in their blood and comes with a very strong selection of new challenging content including the tracks and cars from WTCC season 2008 which turned out to be the best and most competitive championship ever. SimBin has recreated the epic 2008 season down to the smallest detail and now YOU get the chance to show the world who the real champion is. Jump in the car of your favorite racing driver and compete with the best through 12 unique tracks located around the globe including Okayama.

Race On also marks a new focus from SimBin with the inclusion of iconic Detroit Muscle cars suited for those who like to lay down lots of rubber power sliding out of corners on the rev limiter. Enough torque to drag the moon off orbit, full opposite lock and a big grin on your face.

To finish the new lineup SimBin brings you Formula Masters, a top of the line open wheel series, offering you even more speed and action than ever before. Extreme cornering speeds and simulated g-forces make this a true driver’s car.

But RACE On is not just new cars, it also features brand new American tracks in SimBin quality and it comes with a hefty update of existing tracks to 2008 standard. With RACE ON comes 5 brand new tracks all recreated down to minute detail.

As a bonus the game also includes the complete “STCC The Game” (The Swedish Touring Car Championship) which has previously only been released in retail stores in the Nordic territory and Russia. The tight and technical Scandinavian circuits and the wide variety of touring cars running in the series have already created a large following so SimBin is happy to be able to offer this package to the rest of the world including 7 Nordic tracks and 6 unique car models.

About RACE On
RACE On includes the following new content:

* 16 unique car models in 8 classes with over 140 variations.
* 12 tracks of which several never has been released by SimBin on PC.

RACE On will be available as a stand alone game including all RACE 07 content and an expansion pack for existing owners of RACE 07 will also be available.

All in all this makes up for:

* 39 unique car models in 17 classes with over 450 variations.
* 30 tracks and 17 alternate layouts, in total 47 tracks.

For current owners of GTR Evolution RACE On is designed to merge and fully integrate with the existing GTR Evolution. RACE On is scheduled for release in Q2 2009

Source: http://www.simbin.se/news.php?newsid=151

Bring on them Lada's lmao.

http://www.simbin.se/news.php?newsid=151

 

[Mikkow]

I'm the guy who wrote up that huuuge analysis predicting what would be in TOAD. I can't believe I forgot to add "WTCC" as an option. What a crappy analyst. Oh well, everyone is allowed 30 blunders.

The analysis was based on taking their statement in some old interview at 100% face value. I.e. much requested series, 2 of them, new stuff. I don't think that it was exactly 100% correct, judging from what people have been saying in this forum: I never saw much requests for either new WTCC seasons or International Formula Master. I did have an entry for I.F.M. but I said it was probably not requested enough.

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Ok, now time for more analysis. They claim on the website: 16 unique car models, 12 tracks. Now this does include the STCC expansion, so let's remove 7 tracks and 6 models there. That leaves 10 new cars and 5 tracks.

Okayama is the new WTCC track. 4 to go.

I.F.M. has one new track - Hungaroring. That leaves 3.

Since the game is labeled as American Muscle partially, that means the remaining 3 are probably american. Race PRO has LAGUNA SECA and ROAD AMERICA. That leaves just one track.

Car wise, we get 10 new cars. LADA is one. Formula car is another. That leaves 8. Unless their counting is odd, these 8 are probably american muscle/racy cars. I would not be surprised if they released the Viper from GTR Evo in there as well, meaning 7 new cars.

SUMMARY:

5 NEW TRACKS:
- Hungaroring
- Okayama
- Road America
- Laguna SECA
- One bonus track (probably american)
- (As a sidenote, even though not mentioned specifically, upgraded version of Imola which was rebuilt the other year)

10 NEW CARS:
- IFM Formula 2000 car (260hp, small and downforce open wheeler)
- WTCC Lada
- WTCC diesel SEATs
- 8 probably american sports/muscle road cars.

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To you people pissed off about STCC being included and you don't want to pay for it, consider the following:

There's a very high probability that they don't think they'll get any more STCC sales internationally, and that they might think the expansion is a bit on the weak side, soooo they add STCC as a bonus - without raising the price. It therefore makes no difference to us who have STCC or not, as we aren't paying any more for Race ON anyway.

Also consider that we did pay to get STCC maybe 8 months before it comes out with Race ON. Since then, the Gmotor has aged, STCC 08 season came and went and is no longer current. Price is like that, it's related to time.

Also consider that now more people will have the STCC content, which means more mods / online racers etc having the content.

To reject Race ON because it gives you a free copy of STCC (whereas the option would be to pay the same with no free copy) is not logical.

 

[Bram Hengeveld]

...and the lada. We should start a lada league!...

+1

To reject Race ON because it gives you a free copy of STCC (whereas the option would be to pay the same with no free copy) is not logical.

Not its logical to pay for it once, and others get it for free huh? Whatever happens at release a lot of people will still not have it, with as result that we have 4 version of game and for us in the racing club it will become harder and harder to organise events that appeal to all.

Imho if you buy the full game RACE ON everything should be included so that the patchers and the newbies will have the same content. RACE 07 was like 40 euro's, STCC 20 euros GTR evo 20 euro's and the latest expansion will be 20 too? We are complaining about iracing being expensive but this comes pretty close imho

 

[Mikkow]

+1



Not its logical to pay for it once, and others get it for free huh?

Others are not getting it for free. They have to buy either STCC or RACE ON to get it. I assume you're thinking it's unfair, and you'll protest that others get something you had to pay for almost a year earlier.

You forget the time difference here. Race On might be released 9 months after STCC. Meanwhile the Gmotor aged more (thus value of STCC drops), STCC 08 season came and went (value drops more), and the game itself has been on the market for some time (value drops more). Back then you got what you paid for. You have been able (if you bought it then) STCC for 9 months or so by the time those other people can buy it through Race ON. Those other guys had to give up 9 months time and buy other stuff in order to get it.

Whatever happens at release a lot of people will still not have it, with as result that we have 4 version of game and for us in the racing club it will become harder and harder to organise events that appeal to all.

Some own one version, others own more. The only thing that will change is that it will be harder to organize events for the muscle cars and IFM as that is the newst and rarest.

The only way to organize events that appeal to all is to have only Race 07 content, since that is what everyone has by default. The rest is 'specialist'.

Imho if you buy the full game RACE ON everything should be included so that the patchers and the newbies will have the same content.

That'd be awesome, they should do that indeed. Though we know they can't due to license issues (licenses are bound to specific releases).

RACE 07 was like 40 euro's, STCC 20 euros GTR evo 20 euro's and the latest expansion will be 20 too? We are complaining about iracing being expensive but this comes pretty close imho

I strongly disagree here. These are expansions, not the mere bone basics. And no matter what you buy you get tons tons tons of content for a small buck. iRacing is the opposite, you have to pay tons just to play for a period of time and to unlock the mere basics.

iRacing is very expensive because it is pay for use, and pay to get any content what so ever. Race 07 + expansions is massive games with unlimited use, and extra material if you want to - and you certainly don't have to buy them to play.

 

[Philip Grimm]

Those damn TDI SEAT's are like the TDI audis.

 

[Adam Vaughan]

Im really annoyed at the fact I have just bought STCC. Im 50/50 wether to buy this but then when I saee the club events going up then Ill fall for it and get it. I just hope they offer discount if you already have Race 07, STCC etc. But they are a business and want to make money so I doubt that will happen.

 

[Mikkow]

Now that stings (since it's so close to release date).

I also hope they give a discount, even a small one, if one owns STCC already. A good-will kind of thing to show gratitude towards all us loyal consumers (I bought all expansions so far, too).

 

[Bram Hengeveld]

+1

This was just the announcement, so maybe we get some more news soon about the actual deals

 

[Warren Dawes]

I think everyone should be patient and see what the pricing schedule is when released, before jumping to conclusions. Simbin's track record has been good so far in this, usually we get offered an on-line update to the newest version at a lower cost (I even got STCC for free). Of course, the purchase of the packaged game can't be easily done that way.
Best to wait and see what they offer, before we get too angry.

 

[Jamie Ralfs]

Personally can't see what is wrong with Race On.
Looking forward to it coming out. I only ever race WTCC and Mini on GTR Evo, so the WTCC08 season is just right for me.
Can't wait till they do Race 09 (if they do).

Regards

 

[Ramon van Rijn]

Meanwhile the Gmotor aged more (thus value of STCC drops),

You type this now twice in this thread. What do you mean about Gmotor?
Its the heart of Race07 and is not changed in Evo/STCC or will be in On.
Only change is they put some features extra to the previous games like the pitstops in Evo and the Superpole/mandatory pitstop on STCC.

Race On is Race 07 ++++ so its just the same Gmotor engine used. Has to be, otherwise old Race 07 drivers would not be able to race online with Race On drivers (using Race07 tracks+cars).

Of course I know prices will drop after some months of release. Thats normal with all games. But Atari/viva is screwing this up again and again.
Europe pays 40 eur for Race07, US gets it for 20$. And this story continues.
I paid again for Evo and it was worth the money.
STCC was maybe worth some money also, but it was in fact only a few new cars (rest was already ingame with slightly different physics) and some new tracks. Worth 25 eur it was on Steam at Releaseday? Not really but I don't mind paying for simracing developers.

It depends on the deal we are offered, but reading the new cars/tracks in Race On it cannot be more then 10eur max.
Btw, this was the initial announcement SimBin did:
“We have secured licenses for a couple of highly requested series and we think our next scheduled title will come as a big happy surprise to all racers around the world.”
So Formula Masters/Muscle would be the surprise, while people are hoping for BTCC/F1 and similar top-class series

But as said, for only 10 it would be no problem to pay. :chuck:

 

[Christoffer Johnson]

I think it is good that they continue with WTCC becuase I really like it in real life and in Race 07. I wonder if they are going to give the SEAT diesels the same advantage as they had in 2008 IRL. If they want to make it as realistic as possible the should, but that might create boring races in the WTCC 08 class.

When it comes to the Muscle cars, I'm really not a fan. I would prefer Japanese production cars instead, but I understand that the game have to appeal to the US.

I have STCC already and I actually think it is a good thing that they add it to Race On. Hopefully it will increase the number of servers online with swedish tracks. And as Mikkow said, STCC is not new anymore.

So I will definitely buy Race On. For you people who hesitate, imagine how frustrating it's going to be when you enter the server lobby and it says Unknown on a lot of the servers.

 

[Mikkow]

You type this now twice in this thread. What do you mean about Gmotor?

It means that it's aging technology - it has less value the more time passes, as new, better technology becomes developed and available.

I'm not seeing them screwing it up though. Different price for different markets, because there's different demand.

Regarding if Race On will be worth it is for each to decide, once we know exactly what's in it and at what price. It's only an expansion It doesn't have that much more stuff - no one is forced to buy it. Some times I get the same feeling in these topics as other forums where people debate taxes..

 

[Adrian Lazarescu]

Well on steam it will probably be around 20 euros like the other expansions and if you ask me that's quite a bargain so SimBin have my money in this case!

 

[Pierre Higgins]

I'm amazed to see how people could talk about 2 new tracks in the new game when you can download over 70 add on tracks and nobody use them, when you connect online and you see servers with add ons there is no player on them.

 

[Ramon van Rijn]

It means that it's aging technology - it has less value the more time passes, as new, better technology becomes developed and available.

I'm not seeing them screwing it up though. Different price for different markets, because there's different demand.

Regarding if Race On will be worth it is for each to decide, once we know exactly what's in it and at what price. It's only an expansion It doesn't have that much more stuff - no one is forced to buy it. Some times I get the same feeling in these topics as other forums where people debate taxes..

Maybe I made this not clear.
Gmotor Race07/Evo/STCC = Gmotor Race On
Its the same game, but only an addon. Nothing about aging of the engine. Its still there

 

[Mikkow]

Maybe I made this not clear.
Gmotor Race07/Evo/STCC = Gmotor Race On
Its the same game, but only an addon. Nothing about aging of the engine. Its still there

It was clear. I know what the gmotor is as well. I was saying that the tech behind these games is aging (and other things), so the value of the games (EVERYTHING Race 07 related) goes down with time.

 

[Andrew Evans]

I'm amazed to see how people could talk about 2 new tracks in the new game when you can download over 70 add on tracks and nobody use them, when you connect online and you see servers with add ons there is no player on them.

yea, but we use loads of add-ons here at rd... as far as i'm concerned, a constant supply of tracks is the single most important factor in the longevity of the game....

 

[Pierre Higgins]

I agree that RD use a lot of add ons, i also do but in general it's not the case.
Keep going with good servers.

 

[Damian Henderson]

Will they fix all the bugs ( many bugs still in the game even after many pathes ) and missing features?

Or just release this add on...

 

[Nigel Roberts]

I agree with comments about new WTCC being a great idea, I am 100% sure I will purchase it. I hope this is the last release on the GMotor2 engine, really think SimBim need to start looking at release of content on Lizard in 2010

I think SimBin are definately on the right track with this release, it has WTCC 08, Open Wheel racing and American V8 muscle I think those options will generate interest globally, its pretty much got everyone covered.

Once Lizard is released I think they could release WTCC 09, with same content as Race On and maybe add the latest 09' series of the American Muscle series they are adding and maybe the 09' of the open wheeler. The next release WTCC 10' maybe add 1 addition Open wheel series even Formula Vee I would love it. Maybe 1 more American Muscle Series, they dont need to be NASCAR status something medium to budget that are cheap to get the rights too, Like Camaro Cup racing I am guessing that didnt break the bank but its an awesome add-on just like Mini's.

If they decide to add the rest of the WTCC 88' including the Commodore I will personally fly over to Sweeden and kiss their feet :worship: