Race #11, Germany: Post-Race Checks

[Mikko Puumalainen]

The appeal deadline is Friday the 23rd of July, 03:57 GMT.

Ronny Hähnel

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 17, 41
Penalty: N/A

Bono Huis

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 19, 40
Penalty: N/A

Bruno Marques

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 19, 38
Penalty: N/A

Rasmus Tali

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 33
Penalty: +30 seconds to race time for Incident #12.

Fredrik Nilsson

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 20, 41
Penalty: Disqualification for Incident #8.

Jaakko Mikkonen

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 16, 41
Penalty: N/A

Lee Morris

Q1: Cut T8
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 18, 46
Penalty: Disqualification for Incident #7. Start from pitlane in the next race for qualifying cut.

Mikko Puumalainen

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 31
Penalty: N/A

John-Eric Saxen

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 14, 39
Penalty: N/A

Karol Poniatowski

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 17, 37
Penalty: Disqualification for Incident #10, 0.5 Penalty points for Incident #2.

Jeffrey Rietveld

Q1: Cut T8
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 18, 40 CUT
Penalty: Disqualification for Incident #9, 1 Penalty point for Incident #6 and pitexit cut. Start from pitlane in the next race for qualifying cut.

Blair Disley

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 17, 40
Penalty: N/A

Dennis Hirrle

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 19, 40
Penalty: N/A

Mathieu Prevot

Q1: Started from the back of the grid
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 1, 16, 40
Penalty: Disqualification for Incident #11.

Atze Kerkhof

Q1: Started from the back of the grid
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 18, 42
Penalty: N/A

Jack Keithley

Q1: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 16, 39
Penalty: N/A

Florian Bekker

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 26, 55
Penalty: N/A

David Dominguez

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 15, 18
Penalty: N/A

Dimitri De Matos

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 13
Penalty: N/A

Morgan Morand

Q1: Cut T1, T8
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 20
Penalty: Start from pitlane in the next race for qualifying cut.

Agustin Canapino

Q1: Cut T8
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Lap 17
Penalty: Start from pitlane in the next race for qualifying cut.

Patrick De Wit

Q1: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: N/A
Penalty: N/A

Alban Deslie

Q1: Cut T1, T8
Log: Rearview="0", Virtual Rearview In Cockpit="0"
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: N/A
Penalty: Official Warning for not commenting on GPCOS, Official Warning for log infraction, Start from pitlane in the next race for qualifying cut.

Incidents:

#1

Driver(s) Involved Agustin Canapino - Lee Morris
Lap/Replay Time Lap 1, Turn 2
Protest Description Morris tries to pass Canapino from way behind and hits him on the side, taking the position and costing Canapino 3 places. Unlike other incidents Canapino was victim of (Morand, De Matos), no evidence of lag is seen on server replay at all.

Review: Morris tries to pass Canapino under braking for T2. Morris slows down enough and is on the inside for T2, but Canapino turns in and doesn't leave him room on the inside. They touch and Canapino is forced to give the position to Morris.

Verdict: Racing Incident.

#2

Driver(s) Involved Tali, Poniatowski
Lap/Replay Time 3:40
Protest Description Poniatowski touches Tali in hairpin, Tali spins rejoins the race on the last position.

Review: Poniatowski is approaching the apex for T4 with Tali and a bunch of other cars in front of him. The pack slows down and Poniatowski doesn't brake enough for this, touching Tali just as he is beginning to accelerate, causing Tali to half-spin and lose many positions.

Verdict: 0.5 Penalty points to Karol Poniatowski.

#3

Driver(s) Involved Tali, Dominguez
Lap/Replay Time 7:43
Protest Description Dominguez overtakes Tali in hairpin but doesn't leave any room on exit forcing Tali to back off.

Review: Dominguez passes Tali under braking for T4, he brakes a little deep but keeps a continuous steering angle to try to get out of the corner. Tali expects Dominguez to get out of the corner sooner and they touch wheels.

Verdict: Racing Incident.

#4

Driver(s) Involved Mikkonen, Canapino
Lap/Replay Time 17:01
Protest Description Canapino hits Mikkonen on exit from the hairpin, gets damage and loses position to Tali.

Review: Canapino, Mikkonen and Tali are accelerating out of T4. Canapino gets wheelspin and unfortunately hits Mikkonen's car.

Verdict: Racing Incident.

#5

Driver(s) Involved Jeffrey Rietveld
Lap/Replay Time 41/56:10
Protest Description Torrent Motorsports are protesting Jeffrey Rietveld for cutting the pit exit on lap 41, at 56:10 of the server replay.

Review: Rietveld cuts pitexit.

Verdict: 0.5 Penalty points to Jeffrey Rietveld.

#6

Driver(s) Involved Blair Disley and Jeffrey Rietveld
Lap/Replay Time 81:13
Protest Description Torrent Motorsports are protesting Jeffrey Rietveld at 81:13 on the server replay for Round 11 of the Auto GP World Championship. He went left, then went right, which meant Blair Disley was able to make a pass on the inside. But Rietveld took his normal line, even though Disley had his car well alongside, and this caused contact, which lost time and cost Disley a possible points finish.

Review: Disley tries to pass Rietveld under braking for T6. Rietveld turns in, leaving Disley no room on the inside. Disley hits the curb and half-spins.

Verdict: 0.5 Penalty points to Jeffrey Rietveld.

#7

Driver(s) Involved Morris
Lap/Replay Time the whole race
Protest Description Morris gained an advantage during the whole race by going wide in turn 12 in most of the race laps.

Review: Morris cuts the exit of T8 on laps 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 27, 28, 29, etc.

Verdict: Disqualification for Lee Morris, cutting over 30% of the race laps.

#8

Driver(s) Involved Nilsson
Lap/Replay Time the whole race
Protest Description Nilsson gained an advantage by going wide in turn 8 on 21 different occasions during the whole race

Review: Nilsson cuts the exit of T8 on laps 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 14, 15, 19, 22, 32, 33, 34, 35, 45, 46, 47, 48, 52, 55, 57, 58, 59, 60, 62, 63, 64, 65 and 66.

Verdict: Disqualification for Fredrik Nilsson, cutting over 30% of the race laps.

#9

Driver(s) Involved Jeffrey Rietveld
Lap/Replay Time Multiple
Protest Description Torrent Motorsports are protesting Jeffrey Rietveld for cutting at the following server replay time stamps and laps[total of 29 listed] (list removed to save space). 23 of the laps were within 101.5% of his fastest laptime for the stint. We believe this should result in a disqualification under Penalty Guidelines Supplement rule 2.9, section 4 “If driver has more than 30% illegal laps = DQ”

Review: Rietveld cuts the exit of T1/T8 on laps 2, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 22, 25, 27, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, etc.

Verdict: Disqualification for Jeffrey Rietveld, cutting over 30% of the race laps.

#10

Driver(s) Involved Karol Poniatowski
Lap/Replay Time Multiple
Protest Description Torrent Motorsports are protesting Karol Poniatowski for cutting at the following server replay time stamps and laps[total of 18 listed] (list removed to save space). All 18 laps were within 101.5% of his fastest laptime for the stint. We believe this should result in a +60sec race time penalty under Penalty Guidelines Supplement rule 2.9, section 3 “If driver has more than 20% cut illegal laps = +60sec to race time penalty”

Review: Poniatowski cuts the exit of T8 on laps 6, 11, 25, 27, 33, 36, 41, 42, 43, 44, 47, 50, 51, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 63, 65 and 66.

Verdict: Disqualification for Karol Poniatowski, cutting over 30% of the race laps.

#11

Driver(s) Involved Mathieu Prevot
Lap/Replay Time Multiple
Protest Description Torrent Motorsports are protesting Mathieu Prevot for cutting at the following server replay time stamps and laps[total of 24 listed] (list removed to save space). 22 of the laps were within 101.5% of his fastest laptime for the stint. We believe this should result in a disqualification under Penalty Guidelines Supplement rule 2.9, section 4 “If driver has more than 30% illegal laps = DQ”

Review: Prevot cuts the exit of T8 on laps 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 19, 22, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 37, 38, 42, 44, 48, 49, 50, etc.

Verdict: Disqualification for Mathieu Prevot, cutting over 30% of the race laps.

#12

Driver(s) Involved Rasmus Tali
Lap/Replay Time Several laps
Protest Description Tali cuts the entry to T8 on these laps: Lap 6, 14, 25, 29, 37, 54, 57

Review: Tali cuts the entry to T8 on laps 6, 14, 25, 29, 37, 54 and 57.

Verdict: +30 seconds to race time for Rasmus Tali, cutting over 10% of the race laps (10.4%).

 

[Nick Rowland]

Mikko, just a heads up. Fredrik and Lee have posted in Post-Race Discussion rather than here.

Running wide at Turn 12... you can't? There's not enough green astroturf and then it's grass. You can't run wide there? All four wheels being used on the curb is legal surely?

Turn 8 cut... How do you cut Turn 8? Certainly didn't on the exit and the inside is a large curb so I don't know that's a cut?

 

[Lee Morris]

Its so unproffesional nick... this league calls itself the biggest and best most proffesional.. well im sorry this is just one more reason to go to i racing.. this is a joke... an absolute farce... to think we put 1000's laps of practice in for someone to say this is cheating ? and DQ AND start from pitlane.... its wrong... completley wrong... this is worse than anything ive ever heard...

 

[Lee Morris]

Just found out.. John Saxen told his bunch of WS drivers what the rules were in that corner... so THEY KNEW ! what to do

We in WC had nothing... so how can we be penalised for doing what they do in real life.. for the last 40 years... for god sake look at montoya raikkonen 2002... montoya passed kimi on that part of the track !!

 

[Santiago Niza]

Just found out.. John Saxen told his bunch of WS drivers what the rules were in that corner... so THEY KNEW ! what to do

We in WC had nothing... so how can we be penalised for doing what they do in real life.. for the last 40 years... for god sake look at montoya raikkonen 2002... montoya passed kimi on that part of the track !!

Each time cutting is present there is a big mess... guys you are veteran enough here to know and understand rules.
And rules are very clear.

In WS somebody asked about cutting in this corner, and Saxen asked, that normal rules are applied, then cut thiscorner is not allowed.

Rules here are the same for years... dont disturb people with this. Rules are rules, you are agree or not, but all we know it.

 

[Lee Morris]

If you were a victim you would not be saying this... also check the othertopic and see how many disagree with it.. then say the same

 

[Santiago Niza]

If you were a victim you would not be saying this... also check the othertopic and see how many disagree with it.. then say the same

If I was the victim I'll be agree.

All we saw last year how Bruno was punished by cutting in Spain, and how he accepted it instead of say that rules must be changed.

Rules are rules, and all we know it before champ started.
If we are not agree, we must talk to change it for next season, instead of be complaining now.

Admins oppened a topic to discus rules early that sesion started, and teams on board signed this rules, then now we must accept this rules.

If you are not agree, note this an remember post aginst this rule if adminst open a similar topic for 2011 champ.

 

[patrick de wit]

Lee come on
I know its bad when u cut and get penaty i have had lots in past
And you just have to accept it
Anyway we all know the rules we just have to take it

 

[Lee Morris]

no we dont

 

[Florian Bekker]

Sorry. Moved my post to the right topic.

 

[Mikko Puumalainen]

Results are now updated in GPCOS and final.