Race #07, Germany: Post-Race Checks

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Morgan Morand (5.00) +0.50

Q1: Cut
Q2: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

Bono Huis (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Jiri Toman (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Cut
Q2: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

Rob van Starkenburg (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #10

Petar Brljak (4.50) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: +60 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #7

Jack Keithley (3.55) +0.50

Q1: Clean
Q2: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

David Greco (5.00) +0.00

Q1: N/A
Q2: N/A
Log: "Downstream Rated KBPS":52000, "Upstream Rated KBPS":3096
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Official Warning for .PLR/multiplayer.ini settings

Jernej Simoncic (3.00) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: Cut
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q2 lap infraction, +60 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #6

Dian Kostadinov (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #11

Mike Partington (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #9

John-Eric Saxen (3.65) +0.50

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Marcel vd Linden (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Blair Disley (5.00) +0.00

Q1: N/A
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Dino Paolini (1.75) +0.50

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Zuhaitz Cabo (4.45) +0.50

Q1: Cut
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

Matt Sentell (5.00) +0.50

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Carlos Martín (4.75) +0.50

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Luka Oslakovic (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Cut, Cut
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

Jonny Simon (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Official Warning for Incident #3

Patrick De Wit (1.50) +0.50

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Robert Rudholm (5.00) +0.50

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A

Daniel Brewer (3.00) +0.00

Q1: N/A
Q2: N/A
Log: Not received
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Disqualification for File Submission infraction

Jim Parisis (4.10) -0.90

Q1: Clean
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: 0.90 Penalty Points for Incident #1

Eros Masciulli (4.50) +0.00

Q1: Cut
Q2: N/A
Log: Not received
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction, Disqualification for File Submission infraction

Antonio Kolarec (4.00) +0.50

Q1: Cut, Cut
Q2: N/A
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

Martin Gosbee (5.00) +0.00

Q1: Clean
Q2: Clean
Log: Clean
Launch Control: Used
Pitstop: Clean
Tire Rules: Fulfilled
Penalty: N/A


Incident #1
Driver(s) Involved: Luka Oslakovic, Jim Parisis

Lap/Replay Time: Lap 6, 0:32

Review: Parisis goes deep into T6 and makes contact with Oslakovic who loses about 8 seconds recovering from the spin.

Chart 2 (Time lost evaluation) and cell 23G has been used for this verdict. (-0.50 - 0.05 * 8s = -0.90 SR)

Breached rule: 7. Right of Way in Bends

Video: youtu.be/HdJLNpm8Rxo

Verdict: 0.90 Penalty Points for Jim Parisis.

Incident #2
Driver(s) Involved: Blair Disley, John-Eric Saxen

Lap/Replay Time: Lap 14, 0:28

Review: Saxen is going to overtake with DRS and has lag contact with the rear of Disley who loses his car and goes into to the grass losing about 6 seconds.

Video: youtu.be/0NcsrgWM1xM

Verdict: No further action.

Incident #3
Driver(s) Involved: Jonny Simon, Carlos Martín

Lap/Replay Time: Lap 1, 0:39

Review: Simon dives into T6 while Martín was already turning in for the corner, makes contact and overtakes. However, Martín was being very cautious since there were two other drivers alongside him, which provided the oppurtunity to Simon. Additionally Simon's car trajectory shows that he was not going deep, and was taking a normal line for a driver taking a tighter entry to a hairpin.

Video: youtu.be/5JIFtLp-148

Verdict: Official Warning for Jonny Simon.

Incident #4
Driver(s) Involved: Patrick De Wit, Jonny Simon

Lap/Replay Time: Lap 3, 0:31

Review: Simon and De Wit go into T6 side by side, since both drivers left a very small space between the cars and make slight movement towards eachother, contact was made ending with Simon going into the wall and losing his front wing.

Video: youtu.be/hw6RHDFdSUY

Verdict: No further action.

Incident #5
Driver(s) Involved: Jernej Simoncic, Marcel van der Linden

Lap/Replay Time: Lap 34, 0:35

Review: Simoncic loses control of the car on the exit of the harpin as van der Linden passes him, resulting in contact between the duo and van der Linden spinning and making light contact with the barrier.

Video: youtu.be/TWg7Vdj0SD0

Verdict: No further action.

Incident #6
Driver(s) Involved: Jernej Simoncic, cutting

Lap/Replay Time:

1:20.854 * 101.5% = 1:22.06681

Lap 2 - 1:03 / 1:23.574 NO CUT
Lap 8 - 1:01
Lap 10 - 0:04

1:19.878 * 101.5% = 1:21.07617

Lap 15 - 0:04
Lap 16 - 0:04
Lap 17 - 0:04
Lap 22 - 0:04
Lap 23 - 1:23 / 1:21.570 NO CUT

1:19.901 * 101.5% = 1:21.099515

Lap 27 - 0:04
Lap 31 - 0:04
Lap 36 - 0:04
Lap 37 - 0:04

1:18.087 * 101.5% = 1:19.258305

Lap 42 - 0:04
Lap 43 - 0:04
Lap 46 - 0:04
Lap 50 - 0:04 / 1:19.470 NO CUT
Lap 53 - 0:04

1:17.263 * 101.5% = 1:18.421945

Lap 61 - 0:04 / 1:19.143 NO CUT

Review: 14 cuts, 20.90% of the race.

Breached rule: 2.9 3) If driver has more than 20% illegal cut laps - +60 sec race time penalty

Verdict: +60 seconds added to the final race time for Jernej Simoncic.

Incident #7
Driver(s) Involved: Petar Brljak, cutting

Lap/Replay Time:

1:20.125 * 101.5% = 1:21.326875

Lap 11 - 0:04

1:20.060 * 101.5% = 1:21.2609

Lap 13 - 0:04
Lap 15 - 0:04
Lap 16 - 0:04
Lap 17 - 0:04
Lap 19 - 0:04 / 1:21.614 NO CUT
Lap 20 - 0:04
Lap 23 - 0:04 / 1:21.720 NO CUT

1:19.281 * 101.5% = 1:20.470215

Lap 38 - 0:04

1:18.471 * 101.5% = 1:19.648065

Lap 45 - 0:04 / 1:19.820 NO CUT
Lap 46 - 0:04
Lap 50 - 0:04

1:18.289 * 101.5% = 1:19.463335

Lap 57 - 0:04
Lap 58 - 0:04
Lap 59 - 0:04
Lap 65 - 0:04
Lap 66 - 0:04

Review: 14 cuts, 20.90% of the race.

Breached rule: 2.9 3) If driver has more than 20% illegal cut laps - +60 sec race time penalty

Verdict: +60 seconds added to the final race time for Petar Brljak.

Incident #8
Driver(s) Involved: David Greco, cutting

Lap/Replay Time:

1:21.141 * 101.5% = 1.22.358115

Lap 3 - 0:04 1:22.380 NO CUT
Lap 5 - 0:04
Lap 7 - 0:04

1:20.075 * 101.5% = 1:21.276125

Lap 26 - 0:04

1:17.822 * 101.5% = 1:18.98933

Lap 45 - 0:04

1:17.128 * 101.5% = 1:18.28492

Lap 58 - 0:04
Lap 60 - 0:04 1:18.351 NO CUT

Review: 5 cuts, 7.46% of the race.

Breached rule: 2.9 1) If driver has up to 10% illegal cut laps - no actions

Verdict: No further action.

Incident #9
Driver(s) Involved: Mike Partington, cutting

Lap/Replay Time:

1:20.614 * 101.5% = 1:21.82321

Lap 16 - 0:04
Lap 24 - 1:01
Lap 27 - 0:04

1:19.224 * 101.5% = 1:20.41236

Lap 30 - 0:04
Lap 31 - 1:00
Lap 32 - 0:04
Lap 33 - 0:04
Lap 34 - 0:04
Lap 35 - 0:04
Lap 38 - 0:04 / 1:20.452 NO CUT
Lap 39 - 0:04
Lap 40 - 0:04

Review: 11 cuts, 16.42% of the race.

Breached rule: 2.9 2) If driver has more than 10% illegal cut laps - +30 sec race time penalty

Verdict: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Mike Partington.

Incident #10
Driver(s) Involved: Rob van Starkenburg, cutting

Lap/Replay Time:

1:20.247 * 101.5% = 1:21.450705

Lap 4 - T1, 0.04
Lap 5 - T1, 0.04
Lap 9 - T1, 0.04
Lap 10 - T1, 0.04

1:20.013 * 101.5% = 1:21.213195

Lap 15 - T1, 0.04
Lap 20 - T12, 1.00

1:18.864 * 101.5% = 1:20.04696

Lap 39 - T12, 1.00

1:17.938 * 101.5% = 1:19.10707

Lap 52 - T12, 1.00
Lap 59 - T1, 0.04
Lap 61 - T1, 0.04
Lap 62 - T1, 0.04

Review: 11 cuts, 16.42% of the race.

Breached rule: 2.9 2) If driver has more than 10% illegal cut laps - +30 sec race time penalty

Verdict: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Rob van Starkenburg.

Incident #11
Driver(s) Involved: Dian Kostadinov

Lap/Replay Time:

1:20.966 * 101.5% = 1:22.18049

L6 1:00
L8 0:04

1:20.499 * 101.5% = 1:21.706485

L16 0:04
L22 0:04

1:19.683 * 101.5% = 1:20.878245

L30 0:04
L31 1:00
L32 0:04

1:19.038 * 101.5% = 1:20.22357

L43 0:04
L47 0:04
L48 1:00 / 1:20.962 NO CUT

1:17.997 * 101.5% = 1:19.166955

L53 0:04
L60 1:00
L61 0:04 / NO CUT
L64 1:00

Review: 12 cuts, 17.91% of the race.

Breached rule: 2.9 2) If driver has more than 10% illegal cut laps - +30 sec race time penalty

Verdict: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Dian Kostadinov.
 

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oups i didn't know the authorized kerb at T1 was only the painted one... :( I thought all the kerb was authorized
shame, that RR tyre is outside the "authorized kerb" 3 tyres out of 4

 
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How this is not a penalty?! You revoked Patrick's license for loosing control and the car behind hitted him and this is not penalized? Your desicion are getting more and more weird. Am I the only one here in this forum who have the courage to say this directly?
 
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Good job Edu, but Im not sure at all about Morgan's penalty seeing his video. Anyway, I'll prepare popcorns for next WC race.
 
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How this is not a penalty?! You revoked Patrick's license for loosing control and the car behind hitted him and this is not penalized? Your desicion are getting more and more weird. Am I the only one here in this forum who have the courage to say this directly?


Incident #8 from Bahrain
youtube.com/watch?v=RubBMAGMHRs

Was this a penalty?
 
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Incident #8 from Bahrain
youtube.com/watch?v=RubBMAGMHRs

Was this a penalty?
Incident #8 from Bahrain
youtube.com/watch?v=RubBMAGMHRs

Was this a penalty?

I was talking for Keithley - De Wit where they retired. All world blamed Patrick for this because he overdrove his tires, what about accelerating on the curb + painting zone and take out the car next to you. This I think is more harsh than that one in Bahrain.
 

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Incident #8 from Bahrain
youtube.com/watch?v=RubBMAGMHRs

Was this a penalty?

Fair point but there is a slight difference. Patrick was off the racing line and therefore on a part of track where there is less grip. He was also ahead of Bono. Jernej is behind Marcel and also he is on the racing line where the grip is. So there are subtle differences.
 
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Fair point but there is a slight difference. Patrick was off the racing line and therefore on a part of track where there is less grip. He was also ahead of Bono. Jernej is behind Marcel and also he is on the racing line where the grip is. So there are subtle differences.

It doesn't matter where the grip is, the track is same for everyone, when you take out someone behind or next to you, I think you deserve a penalty, but not when you do mistake and the guy behind crash you.
 
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Bono was way behind and had at least chance to move out of the way... Linden was just kicked off the track without any chance to do something

At incident #12 of Bahrain Keithley was also kicked off the track without any chance to do something, nevertheless COA removed the penalty.
 

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At incident #12 of Bahrain Keithley was also kicked off the track without any chance to do something, nevertheless COA removed the penalty.
With Patrick it was very specific situation with his overdroven tires etc... And still, he wasnt behind Jack - so why are you still comparing different situations?
 
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With Patrick it was very specific situation with his overdroven tires etc... And still, he wasnt behind Jack - so why are you still comparing different situations?
Because someone is pointing out this situations, but you are right, they are not quite the same.
 
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Maybe we could stop racing after the warm up lap. It's much saver and no protest what results in strange (speaking in calm) outcome of the protest. I really can follow anything more with the results of the protests. Even my son of 8 years old understands that I was taken out.
Really unbelievable. I left him enough room.
 
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Because someone is pointing out this situations, but you are right, they are not quite the same.

I didn't mantion it to campare both situations. My idea was, you penalize a guy (1 license point) who does mistake like half-spinning and you said it's his fault, because the driver behind couldn't avoid it, but here when Jernej halfspins and taken out Marcel again unavoidable, no penalty.
 
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What was I supposed to do there? I tried really carefully to go on throttle, I barely opened 50% of throttle when the rear suddenly snapped. I did my best to correct the slide, I lifted, I actually corrected it and tried to move more onto the kerb, but it was too late.
I couldn't see it coming, and when the moment came, I did my best to avoid any incident. I don't know, why would I deserve a penalty or what could I have done differently.
Maybe you could give me some setup tips for better traction :)
 

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I didn't mantion it to campare both situations. My idea was, you penalize a guy (1 license point) who does mistake like half-spinning and your you said it's his fault, because the driver behind couldn't avoid it, but here when Jernej halfspins and taken out Marcel again unavoidable, no penalty.

So let me understand; you are complaining because Simoncic didn't get the same penalty as De Wit in Bahrain, a penalty that you were against and was already removed by COA?

I didn't know that, when someone makes error and spin on the track, or sliding the car as Patrick did, he is the guilty one and you gave him 1.00. These penalties are ridiculous.

Am I the only one here in this forum that thinks that some people talks nosense sometimes?
 
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So let me understand; you are complaining because Simoncic didn't get the same penalty as De Wit in Bahrain, a penalty that you were against and was already removed by COA?



Am I the only one here in this forum that thinks that some people talks nosense sometimes?

The difference is Patrick was ahead like 1 car distance, ofcourse I was against, for first time I've been heard someone to get a penalty for hit behind. Here in Hockenheim, Jernej was side by side, Marcel left him enough room from outside, but the GS driver wheel-spun his rear tires and slided to Marcel's car. Ofcourse Jernej didn't want to have a contact or to crash Marcel, but drivers' errors make these penalties right? Even Jim's bomb was an error, he could say, give me a better setup to may stop faster.. I'm 100% sure if it was Patrick crashing someone like this.. no point to continue this sentence..
 
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